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The two leading US figures in Iraq are facing criticism at a hearing in Congress from Democratic presidential candidates opposed to the war.The two leading US figures in Iraq are facing criticism at a hearing in Congress from Democratic presidential candidates opposed to the war.
One, Sen Joe Biden, told military commander Gen David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker that the troop build-up had failed to achieve peace.One, Sen Joe Biden, told military commander Gen David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker that the troop build-up had failed to achieve peace.
The two are facing a second day of testimony before a Congressional panel.The two are facing a second day of testimony before a Congressional panel.
They repeated their contention that the military "surge" in Iraq was working, and warned against a rapid withdrawal.They repeated their contention that the military "surge" in Iraq was working, and warned against a rapid withdrawal.
Sen Biden said the build-up, which began in February, had failed to promote reconciliation between Iraq's Sunni and Shia communities and was at best "a stopgap that will not prevent chaos".Sen Biden said the build-up, which began in February, had failed to promote reconciliation between Iraq's Sunni and Shia communities and was at best "a stopgap that will not prevent chaos".
Sen Biden concluded: "We should stop the surge and start bringing our troops home." He concluded: "We should stop the surge and start bringing our troops home."
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The senators questioning them also include presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Christopher Dodd. Sen John Kerry - the defeated Democratic candidate in the 2004 election - questioned the commitment of the Iraqi politicians who he said were stalling while US soldiers sacrificed their lives
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BBC security correspondent Rob Watson says the senators' questions will be watched carefully by the party's grassroots supporters, where opinion is running strongly against the continued presence of US troops. Senators questioning Gen Petraeus and Mr Crocker will later include presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Christopher Dodd.
During Tuesday's testimony Gen Petraeus again insisted that the increase in US troop levels had reduced the violence. Although all are opponents of the war, they differ on how the US should withdraw.
Mr Crocker, for his part, emphasised signs of economic progress, pointing to a projected 6% growth for the Iraqi economy in 2007.
During Monday's joint hearing of the House of Representatives Armed Services and Foreign Affairs committees, he said violence had declined since more US troops were sent to Iraq this year.
"Security incidents", including sectarian violence, had declined since the start of the surge, he said.
He added that about 30,000 troops could be withdrawn by the middle of next year.
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On Monday Gen Petraeus and Mr Crocker's testimonies were heavily criticised by some members of the congressional panel. BBC defence and security correspondent Rob Watson says the senators' questions will be watched carefully by the party's grassroots supporters, where opinion is running strongly against the continued presence of US troops.
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During Tuesday's testimony Gen Petraeus again insisted that the increase in US troop levels had reduced the violence and insisted that "some type of success in Iraq is possible".
Mr Crocker agreed that the surge had "helped change dynamics in Iraq for the better".
"I do believe that Iraq's leaders have the will to tackle the country's pressing problems, although it will take longer than we initially anticipated," he said.
Mr Crocker also emphasised signs of economic progress, pointing to a projected 6% growth for the Iraqi economy in 2007.
During Monday's joint hearing of the House of Representatives Armed Services and Foreign Affairs committees, Gen Petraeus said violence had declined since more US troops were sent to Iraq this year.
"Security incidents", including sectarian violence, had declined since the start of the surge, he said.
Americans give their views on the situation in IraqIn picturesAmericans give their views on the situation in IraqIn pictures
House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Tom Lantos said the surge was a strategic failure and that it was time for troops to leave. He added that about 30,000 troops could be withdrawn by the middle of next year.
"We need to get out of Iraq, for that country's sake and for our own. It is time to go," he said. Also on Monday, Republican Duncan Hunter defended the general, saying US progress had led to gains by Iraqi security forces, including an army that was "beginning to emerge as a professional force".
Democrat Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey told the BBC Gen Petraeus was a "mouthpiece" of the White House, a position that he has flatly denied.
But Republican Duncan Hunter defended the general, saying US progress had led to gains by Iraqi security forces, including an army that was "beginning to emerge as a professional force".
Iraqi National Security Adviser Mowaffaq al-Rubaie praised the US' "enormous sacrifice" and predicted a reduced combat role for US troops.Iraqi National Security Adviser Mowaffaq al-Rubaie praised the US' "enormous sacrifice" and predicted a reduced combat role for US troops.
But he cautioned against a quick US withdrawal, saying Iraq needed coalition soldiers until its own security forces were self-reliant.But he cautioned against a quick US withdrawal, saying Iraq needed coalition soldiers until its own security forces were self-reliant.
A record 168,000 US troops are now in Iraq after 30,000 arrived in the surge between February and June.A record 168,000 US troops are now in Iraq after 30,000 arrived in the surge between February and June.


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