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BHS former owner Dominic Chappell: 'We may sue Philip Green' – live Former BHS boss Philip Green 'blocked' Mike Ashley rescue deal – live
(35 minutes later)
1.22pm BST
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Chappell: I'm not going bankrupt again
Iain Wright MP asks Chappell about a personal loan of £150,000 he took out recently, at 1% per month, repayable after two weeks.
Only £75,000 has been repaid, and the other half has now been formally demanded (by the Dellal family, who had been involved those complicated property deals)
Q: Mr Chappell, are you going bankrupt again?
No, says Chappell, giving a vey short laugh (and not looking amused at all).
He says that he had a tax bill to pay.
Q: But you’ve told us that you’ve made money on BHS.
Yes, but when you make a profit, you incur tax, Chappell explains.
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Q: Did you lend £1.5m from BHS to a property company connected to your father?
The loan came from Retail Acquisitions, Chappell says, not BHS, from money generated by the business. It went to a company that owns his father’s house.
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Dominic Chappell is adamant that he’s not to blame for the deadlock over BHS’s pension black hole.
It’s argues that its Philip Green’s fault, for failing to co-operate with the pension regulators.
Frank Field: "Philip Green was like Banquo's ghost in all of this - he was always there. He wouldn't leave you along"
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In another dizzying trip down the rabbit hole, Chappell says he wasn’t allowed to speak to the Pensions Regulator about BHS before he had actually bought the company.
Bizarre. Condition of BHS deal was that Sir Philip Green would not allow Dominic Chappell to see Pensions Regulator before deal
1.04pm BST
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Dominic Chappell continues to blame Sir Philip Green for BHS’s collapse.
He repeats his complaint that the Arcadia boss didn’t deliver on his promise to sort out BHS’s credit insurance (which drove up costs)
BHS pension like "lighting the red touch paper" w Green, Chappell says. "He went from zero to incredibly angry the moment you mentioned it"
Chappell says he did "everything in my powers", including attempting to sell to Mike Ashley before Green "railroaded" the rescue deal
MPs aren’t impressed...
Q: You bought this company, and had a cash crisis within three months of buying the business.
Chappell claims it was more like a short-term pinch point - and he sorted out a loan to cover it.
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Dominic Chappell claims that BHS’s landlords were very hard to deal with, after years of being yelled at by Green.Dominic Chappell claims that BHS’s landlords were very hard to deal with, after years of being yelled at by Green.
There was a perception that we were Philip’s boys... brought in to take this problem child of Arcadia’s hands, he adds.There was a perception that we were Philip’s boys... brought in to take this problem child of Arcadia’s hands, he adds.
Dominic Chappell with a classic understatement, says Sir Philip Green has "a slight control issue"Dominic Chappell with a classic understatement, says Sir Philip Green has "a slight control issue"
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Chappell: Sports Direct were prepared to save BHSChappell: Sports Direct were prepared to save BHS
Boom! Dominic Chappell has told MPs that BHS could have been saved from liquidation, because Mike Ashley of Sports Direct was prepared to step in.Boom! Dominic Chappell has told MPs that BHS could have been saved from liquidation, because Mike Ashley of Sports Direct was prepared to step in.
Chappell says that Sports Direct was a “willing buyer” for BHS, if it could have avoided the pension liabilities.Chappell says that Sports Direct was a “willing buyer” for BHS, if it could have avoided the pension liabilities.
We worked for 24-hour straight, says Chappell. “Mike would have saved the business”
But Green didn’t want the deal to go through, so he called in the administrators by triggering the £35m charge that he still held on BHS.But Green didn’t want the deal to go through, so he called in the administrators by triggering the £35m charge that he still held on BHS.
Chappell claims Sir Philip Green went "insane" when he found out he was trying to sell BHS to Sports Direct, so called in administratorsChappell claims Sir Philip Green went "insane" when he found out he was trying to sell BHS to Sports Direct, so called in administrators
According to Chappell, Sports Direct would have given BHS the capital injection it needed. That would have left Greens’ £35m loan “in the long grass”.According to Chappell, Sports Direct would have given BHS the capital injection it needed. That would have left Greens’ £35m loan “in the long grass”.
But SPD would only do it if the pension regulators agreed that Sports Direct would be “found harmless” for the pension liabilities. But SPD would only do the deal if the pension regulators agreed that Sports Direct would be “found harmless” for the pension liabilities.
We worked through the night to get a deal, but the Pension Protection Fund said it needed more time - and then Green served the notice that forced the administration, Chappell claims. The Pension Protection Fund worked almost all night, looking for a solution, but then said he needed more time - and then Green served the notice that forced the administration, Chappell claims.
Yesterday, Mike Ashley told the BIS committee that he “100%” wanted to buy BHS, but didn’t reveal what went wrong.Yesterday, Mike Ashley told the BIS committee that he “100%” wanted to buy BHS, but didn’t reveal what went wrong.
Chappell placing blame heavily on SPG who resisted sale to Mike Ashley "he went insane" and called in his £35m loan tipping company overChappell placing blame heavily on SPG who resisted sale to Mike Ashley "he went insane" and called in his £35m loan tipping company over
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Chappell: I made a profit on BHSChappell: I made a profit on BHS
Iain Wright, chair of the BIS committee, turns to the money which Chappell’s Retail Acquisition took out of BHS.Iain Wright, chair of the BIS committee, turns to the money which Chappell’s Retail Acquisition took out of BHS.
Q: Given BHS needed working capital, why were you taking money out?Q: Given BHS needed working capital, why were you taking money out?
These were fees that we had incurred in the course of the deal.These were fees that we had incurred in the course of the deal.
Q: How much have you taken out?Q: How much have you taken out?
I’ll give you a full outline on a spreadsheetI’ll give you a full outline on a spreadsheet
Q: Give us a flavour now, pleaseQ: Give us a flavour now, please
No. You can have it as soon as practically possible....No. You can have it as soon as practically possible....
Q: So have you made a profit?Q: So have you made a profit?
Yes, I have made a profit, Chappell confirms. But he did work on this business for the last 13 months, incurring substantial fees. So he feels he earned the profit.Yes, I have made a profit, Chappell confirms. But he did work on this business for the last 13 months, incurring substantial fees. So he feels he earned the profit.
Q: How do you feel about the 11,000 people who are losing their jobs?Q: How do you feel about the 11,000 people who are losing their jobs?
Devastated, Chappell replies.Devastated, Chappell replies.
He then promises to also give details on how much he received personally.He then promises to also give details on how much he received personally.
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Reminder, you can watch Dominic Chappell’s testimony at the top of this blog. It’s also being streamed here.Reminder, you can watch Dominic Chappell’s testimony at the top of this blog. It’s also being streamed here.
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Here’s a video clip of the jaw-dropping moment this morning, when the CEO of BHS claimed Chappell had threatened to kill him after he spotted a £1.5m transfer out of the company.Here’s a video clip of the jaw-dropping moment this morning, when the CEO of BHS claimed Chappell had threatened to kill him after he spotted a £1.5m transfer out of the company.
BHS chief executive: Dominic Chappell threatened to kill me – video https://t.co/ophaDLHayF pic.twitter.com/lCFn0g0OQXBHS chief executive: Dominic Chappell threatened to kill me – video https://t.co/ophaDLHayF pic.twitter.com/lCFn0g0OQX
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Chappell talks about the “enormous lack of investment” at BHS during Green’s tenure - saying some stores had no heating.Chappell talks about the “enormous lack of investment” at BHS during Green’s tenure - saying some stores had no heating.
And he blames the rows over BHS’s pension deficit for scuppering his hopes of recruiting a chairman who actually understood retail.And he blames the rows over BHS’s pension deficit for scuppering his hopes of recruiting a chairman who actually understood retail.
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"I was very open we knew nothing about retail" Chappell - the man who bought BHS. "We bought into management's plan""I was very open we knew nothing about retail" Chappell - the man who bought BHS. "We bought into management's plan"
"We knew nothing about retailing. We weren't claiming to be retailers," Chappell says"We knew nothing about retailing. We weren't claiming to be retailers," Chappell says
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On the negotiations with Green, Dominic Chappell says he told the Arcadia boss about his past - including that he had been declared bankrupt in the past (twice, I believe...)On the negotiations with Green, Dominic Chappell says he told the Arcadia boss about his past - including that he had been declared bankrupt in the past (twice, I believe...)
Q: Did he know about your lack of retail experience?Q: Did he know about your lack of retail experience?
I was very open, Chappell insists. We know nothing about retail.I was very open, Chappell insists. We know nothing about retail.
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Chappell: Green thought we'd failChappell: Green thought we'd fail
Q: Do you think Sir Philip Green set you up to fail by selling BHS?Q: Do you think Sir Philip Green set you up to fail by selling BHS?
Philip genuinely thought we would fail, Chappell claims.Philip genuinely thought we would fail, Chappell claims.
He claims that the Arcadia boss was hostile to the property CVA which was agreed this year, which lowered BHS’s rental costs.He claims that the Arcadia boss was hostile to the property CVA which was agreed this year, which lowered BHS’s rental costs.
He also takes a pop at Michael Hitchcock (who called Chappell a premier league liar this morning), claiming the former finance officer didn’t deliver.He also takes a pop at Michael Hitchcock (who called Chappell a premier league liar this morning), claiming the former finance officer didn’t deliver.
Hitchcock came in and made a lot of noise that he’d deal with the landlords....He’s a man of many words and very little delivery.Hitchcock came in and made a lot of noise that he’d deal with the landlords....He’s a man of many words and very little delivery.
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Chappell losing temper "I'm sorry I was involved in the deal, you weren't" as MPs try to gain clarity on murky financing and promisedChappell losing temper "I'm sorry I was involved in the deal, you weren't" as MPs try to gain clarity on murky financing and promised