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Greece Debt Plan at Next Crucial Stage, as Finance Ministers Meet Finance Ministers’ Meeting on Greece Debt Ends With No Deal
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BRUSSELS — With time ticking away, European finance ministers worked deep into the evening on Saturday to determine whether Greece should be granted its third bailout since 2010, trying to balance deep distrust of the Athens government against the costs of a potential rupture on the Continent. BRUSSELS — A meeting of European finance ministers broke up late Saturday with no agreement on whether Greece should be granted its third bailout since 2010, reflecting deep divides over whether the Athens government can be trusted to repay huge new loans and leaving the Continent hours from what could be a historic rupture.
The meeting began only hours after the Greek Parliament overwhelmingly approved a proposed package of pension cuts, higher taxes and other policy changes that Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras put forth a few days ago a plan that looked remarkably similar to bailout conditions that he had previously rejected and that the Greek public had turned down by a wide margin in a referendum last week. The finance ministers planned to reconvene later on Sunday, just before European national leaders are scheduled to gather in Brussels for what they have said would be a final decision on whether Greece should qualify for a new aid package, a step that is likely to determine whether the country can remain in the euro currency union.
Despite earlier optimism about the prospects for a deal, the deliberations on Saturday were quickly overshadowed by skepticism among many European delegations about whether Greece would follow through on its new pledges. Also at work was a deeper fatigue over propping up Greece and dealing with Mr. Tsipras’s leftist government. The parliamentary vote in Athens in the wee hours of Saturday highlighted divisions in Mr. Tsipras’s party, Syriza, fueling further doubts among the skeptics that the current Greek government would do any better than previous ones in living up to a bailout program’s strict terms. The failure to reach agreement, after nearly nine hours of talks, belied the optimism that followed the approval early Saturday by the Greek Parliament of a package of pension cuts, higher taxes and other policy changes long sought by Greece’s international creditors. In a remarkable turnabout, Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras had pushed the package through the legislature despite having led his country into a referendum six days earlier that overwhelmingly rejected much the same terms.
But despite Greece’s capitulation on those terms, many countries came into this weekend’s final round of negotiations skeptical of the Tsipras government’s commitment to seeing through the changes and putting his country on firmer financial footing — and weary of the constant brinkmanship that has characterized the months of negotiations over Greece’s latest crisis.
Alexander Stubb, the Finnish finance minister, told journalists as he left the meeting, which ended shortly before midnight, “We will continue the discussions tomorrow.”
From the start, it was clear that Mr. Tsipras’s gambit had not entirely won over Germany and other countries that have been skeptical about giving a new round of loans to Greece after years in which successive governments in Athens have struggled to carry out changes that its creditors have demanded as a condition of the bailouts.
“We will have exceptionally difficult negotiations,” Wolfgang Schäuble, the hard-nosed German finance minister, said on Saturday before the meeting. “We won’t be able to rely on promises.”“We will have exceptionally difficult negotiations,” Wolfgang Schäuble, the hard-nosed German finance minister, said on Saturday before the meeting. “We won’t be able to rely on promises.”
During their talks, the finance ministers called on their Greek counterpart, Euclid Tsakalotos, to put the package proposed by his government into swift effect to prove its willingness to make deep and lasting changes to the nation’s faltering economy. His prediction proved accurate, as he and his fellow ministers wrangled for hours with little apparent progress, seeking more assurances from Greece that it was committed to changing its way, and weighing the desires of France and Italy for a deal against the more skeptical stance of Germany and the possibility of outright opposition from Finland.
During their talks, the finance ministers called on their Greek counterpart, Euclid Tsakalotos, to put the package backed by his government into swift effect to prove its willingness to make deep and lasting changes to the nation’s faltering economy. Greece, in turn, continued to seek some assurance that it would win the right to renegotiate the terms of its debt repayment.
It was not clear that the meeting would yield a consensus about how to proceed, raising the possibility that the finance ministers would leave final decisions to their national leaders, who are to gather in Brussels on Sunday.It was not clear that the meeting would yield a consensus about how to proceed, raising the possibility that the finance ministers would leave final decisions to their national leaders, who are to gather in Brussels on Sunday.
In an apparent effort to raise the pressure on Greece, some German and Finnish officials were informally passing around a one-page position paper, reportedly drawn up by the German finance ministry, saying the Greek proposal fell short and suggesting options that included having the country leave the eurozone for five years and then reapply for membership. “I am still hopeful,” Pierre Moscovici, the European commissioner for economic affairs, told reporters as he left the Eurogroup meeting.
In an apparent effort to raise the pressure on Greece, some German and Finnish officials were informally passing around a one-page position paper, reportedly drawn up by the German finance ministry as a possible option for the negotiations, saying the Greek proposal fell short and suggesting options that included having the country leave the eurozone for five years and then reapply for membership.
The idea of a five-year break from the euro was not openly discussed at the finance ministers’ meeting on Saturday afternoon, according to an official with direct knowledge of the talks. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the discussions were still underway.The idea of a five-year break from the euro was not openly discussed at the finance ministers’ meeting on Saturday afternoon, according to an official with direct knowledge of the talks. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the discussions were still underway.
The European leaders have set this weekend as a deadline for settling the issue of whether to keep Greece solvent or cut off further aid, a step that would almost certainly result in Athens being forced to abandon the euro as its currency.The European leaders have set this weekend as a deadline for settling the issue of whether to keep Greece solvent or cut off further aid, a step that would almost certainly result in Athens being forced to abandon the euro as its currency.
An exit by Greece would be a blow to Europe’s goal of ever-closer integration.An exit by Greece would be a blow to Europe’s goal of ever-closer integration.
Greece’s banks are teetering on the edge of insolvency, the government is running out of cash to meet its day-to-day obligations, and without an infusion of aid, additional payments to international creditors will be missed in coming weeks.Greece’s banks are teetering on the edge of insolvency, the government is running out of cash to meet its day-to-day obligations, and without an infusion of aid, additional payments to international creditors will be missed in coming weeks.
Experts who reviewed Greece’s request for third bailout program informed Eurogroup ministers that about €74 billion are needed to cover its financing needs for the next three years, according to a person with direct knowledge of the experts’ findings. That is far more than the €53.5 billion, or about $59 billion, that Athens has requested.Experts who reviewed Greece’s request for third bailout program informed Eurogroup ministers that about €74 billion are needed to cover its financing needs for the next three years, according to a person with direct knowledge of the experts’ findings. That is far more than the €53.5 billion, or about $59 billion, that Athens has requested.
If loans for Greece are eventually approved, the majority will probably be covered by a new loan from the European Stability Mechanism, the European bailout fund. Other sources could include loans from the International Monetary Fund, funds raised through Greek government revenues and, eventually, new debt issued by Greece.If loans for Greece are eventually approved, the majority will probably be covered by a new loan from the European Stability Mechanism, the European bailout fund. Other sources could include loans from the International Monetary Fund, funds raised through Greek government revenues and, eventually, new debt issued by Greece.
That discrepancy between what Greece had requested and the new estimate of its bailout needs may further reinforce the doubts of those who wonder if the Greek government has a handle on its finances and will be able to carry out promised changes.That discrepancy between what Greece had requested and the new estimate of its bailout needs may further reinforce the doubts of those who wonder if the Greek government has a handle on its finances and will be able to carry out promised changes.
“Many governments — mine, too — have serious concerns about the commitment of the Greek government,” the Dutch state secretary for finance, Eric Wiebes, told reporters in Brussels before Saturday’s meeting. “After all, we are discussing a proposal from the Greek government that was fiercely rejected less than a week ago, and that is a serious concern.”“Many governments — mine, too — have serious concerns about the commitment of the Greek government,” the Dutch state secretary for finance, Eric Wiebes, told reporters in Brussels before Saturday’s meeting. “After all, we are discussing a proposal from the Greek government that was fiercely rejected less than a week ago, and that is a serious concern.”
Shortly after, the leader of the finance ministers group, Jeroen Dijsselbloem of the Netherlands, said on his way into the gathering, “I think it will be quite a difficult meeting.” There was “quite a bit of criticism both on the content of the proposals,” he said, “but also on the even more difficult issue of trust — how can we really expect this government to implement what it’s now promising?”Shortly after, the leader of the finance ministers group, Jeroen Dijsselbloem of the Netherlands, said on his way into the gathering, “I think it will be quite a difficult meeting.” There was “quite a bit of criticism both on the content of the proposals,” he said, “but also on the even more difficult issue of trust — how can we really expect this government to implement what it’s now promising?”
While no signed bailout deal is expected this weekend, the question is whether Europe will decide to continue negotiating a rescue with Greece, or leave its banks to collapse and its virtually bankrupt government to default on its loans. European leaders, who have tentatively agreed to meet here to discuss the matter on Sunday evening, have said their gathering should be used to reach that decision.While no signed bailout deal is expected this weekend, the question is whether Europe will decide to continue negotiating a rescue with Greece, or leave its banks to collapse and its virtually bankrupt government to default on its loans. European leaders, who have tentatively agreed to meet here to discuss the matter on Sunday evening, have said their gathering should be used to reach that decision.
The fear of Greece and its supporters, which include the French government, is that without an agreement to continue negotiations, Greek banks could collapse as soon as Monday, raising the prospect that the country would quickly have to abandon the euro.The fear of Greece and its supporters, which include the French government, is that without an agreement to continue negotiations, Greek banks could collapse as soon as Monday, raising the prospect that the country would quickly have to abandon the euro.
Pierre Moscovici, the European economic affairs commissioner and former finance minister of France, said as he entered Saturday’s meeting that the “Greek government has made significant gestures.” He said the Greek proposals form “a basis for a new program” of loans.Pierre Moscovici, the European economic affairs commissioner and former finance minister of France, said as he entered Saturday’s meeting that the “Greek government has made significant gestures.” He said the Greek proposals form “a basis for a new program” of loans.
Before the meeting, the finance ministers received assessments of the Tsipras plan by experts representing the country’s creditors.Before the meeting, the finance ministers received assessments of the Tsipras plan by experts representing the country’s creditors.
“The papers of the Greek authorities contain positive elements, issues where clarification is needed, and some issues where the institutions wish to see stronger commitment to reform,” said a person with direct knowledge of experts’ findings who spoke on Saturday morning on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the discussions.“The papers of the Greek authorities contain positive elements, issues where clarification is needed, and some issues where the institutions wish to see stronger commitment to reform,” said a person with direct knowledge of experts’ findings who spoke on Saturday morning on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the discussions.
But this person also warned: “Negotiations will be tough. The chances for a deal are 50-50.”But this person also warned: “Negotiations will be tough. The chances for a deal are 50-50.”
The Eurogroup, with its 19 eurozone finance ministers, has some outspoken critics of Greece, irritated by the Tsipras government’s negotiating style and Mr. Tsipras’s decision the week before last to break off negotiations and call for the referendum. Mr. Tsipras surprised many in his own country and party on Thursday when he presented a plan containing many of the elements — including austerity measures — that the voters had just rejected by a wide margin.The Eurogroup, with its 19 eurozone finance ministers, has some outspoken critics of Greece, irritated by the Tsipras government’s negotiating style and Mr. Tsipras’s decision the week before last to break off negotiations and call for the referendum. Mr. Tsipras surprised many in his own country and party on Thursday when he presented a plan containing many of the elements — including austerity measures — that the voters had just rejected by a wide margin.
The creditors now want strong evidence that Greece will live up to its latest set of economic promises if it gets the new loans it is seeking, and an agreement to ease the burden of its current staggering debt, which at €317 billion is equivalent to 177 percent of the country’s gross domestic product. By that measure, only Japan’s debt, at 245 percent, is higher among the world’s economies.The creditors now want strong evidence that Greece will live up to its latest set of economic promises if it gets the new loans it is seeking, and an agreement to ease the burden of its current staggering debt, which at €317 billion is equivalent to 177 percent of the country’s gross domestic product. By that measure, only Japan’s debt, at 245 percent, is higher among the world’s economies.
“It would certainly build up trust” if the Athens government “started implementing by way of legislation what they have now agreed to support,” the Irish finance minister, Michael Noonan, told reporters before the Eurogroup meeting. “It’s very hard to deliver if your parliamentary majority diminishes,” he said, referring to the rifts in Syriza that were exposed on Friday night.“It would certainly build up trust” if the Athens government “started implementing by way of legislation what they have now agreed to support,” the Irish finance minister, Michael Noonan, told reporters before the Eurogroup meeting. “It’s very hard to deliver if your parliamentary majority diminishes,” he said, referring to the rifts in Syriza that were exposed on Friday night.
Germany has been openly wary of Greece’s intentions, as have the Netherlands, Finland and some former Soviet bloc states. And the views of the German finance minister, Mr. Schäuble, are expected to be crucial to the outcome.Germany has been openly wary of Greece’s intentions, as have the Netherlands, Finland and some former Soviet bloc states. And the views of the German finance minister, Mr. Schäuble, are expected to be crucial to the outcome.
A copy of the one-page paper proposing that Greece take a timeout from the currency union was made public by Sven Giegold a lawmaker for Germany’s opposition Greens party, which opposes Berlin’s hard line against Athens. German government officials declined to comment on the document.A copy of the one-page paper proposing that Greece take a timeout from the currency union was made public by Sven Giegold a lawmaker for Germany’s opposition Greens party, which opposes Berlin’s hard line against Athens. German government officials declined to comment on the document.
The paper said the Greek plan fell short in proposing areas to “modernize the country,” and cited efforts to streamline the labor market as among areas that “are not sufficient.”The paper said the Greek plan fell short in proposing areas to “modernize the country,” and cited efforts to streamline the labor market as among areas that “are not sufficient.”
The paper suggested that the “Greek authorities improve their proposals rapidly and significantly,” with backing from the Parliament in Athens, and transfer state-owned assets worth €50 billion to an external fund that would be used to help pay down Greece’s debts.The paper suggested that the “Greek authorities improve their proposals rapidly and significantly,” with backing from the Parliament in Athens, and transfer state-owned assets worth €50 billion to an external fund that would be used to help pay down Greece’s debts.
Alternatively, the document said, Greece could temporarily leave the eurozone. During that period, which the paper suggested could span five years, the Athens government would be offered assistance in restructuring its debt.Alternatively, the document said, Greece could temporarily leave the eurozone. During that period, which the paper suggested could span five years, the Athens government would be offered assistance in restructuring its debt.
“Only this way forward could allow for sufficient debt restructuring, which would not be in line with the membership in a monetary union,” the paper said, while at the same time insisting that Greece be offered “growth enhancing humanitarian and technical assistance” within the European Union.“Only this way forward could allow for sufficient debt restructuring, which would not be in line with the membership in a monetary union,” the paper said, while at the same time insisting that Greece be offered “growth enhancing humanitarian and technical assistance” within the European Union.
The crisis has come to a head since Greece was barred from drawing on rescue loans that have kept it afloat for the past five years, during which it has borrowed a total of €240 billion from the other eurozone countries, the European Central Bank and the I.M.F.The crisis has come to a head since Greece was barred from drawing on rescue loans that have kept it afloat for the past five years, during which it has borrowed a total of €240 billion from the other eurozone countries, the European Central Bank and the I.M.F.
The European part of that bailout program expired on June 30, the same day Greece missed making a €1.6 billion repayment to the I.M.F. The fund cannot channel more loans to Athens until it receives the missed payment.The European part of that bailout program expired on June 30, the same day Greece missed making a €1.6 billion repayment to the I.M.F. The fund cannot channel more loans to Athens until it receives the missed payment.
The most immediate consequence of Greece’s failing this weekend to extend negotiations could come from the European Central Bank, whose emergency loans have been propping up Greek banks for months.The most immediate consequence of Greece’s failing this weekend to extend negotiations could come from the European Central Bank, whose emergency loans have been propping up Greek banks for months.
Without an agreement between Greece and Europe to keep talking, the central bank might see little choice but to cut off the banks’ emergency loans. The debt ratings agency Moody’s has estimated that the Greek banks will run out of money on Sunday without further support.Without an agreement between Greece and Europe to keep talking, the central bank might see little choice but to cut off the banks’ emergency loans. The debt ratings agency Moody’s has estimated that the Greek banks will run out of money on Sunday without further support.