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Labor backs away from scrutiny on payments to people smugglers –  politics live Coalition gains support of Greens for changes to pension assets test – politics live
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7.08pm AEST10:08
To be fair to the Greens, given the government has ridiculously ruled out any changes to super tax concessions (despite clear arguments in the tax review and elsewhere for change) – it would have been impossible to budge the government anyway.
6.50pm AEST09:506.50pm AEST09:50
Interesting that was nailed down so quickly. The government is making it clear it doesn’t intend to give any ground on retirement incomes – apart from a few more weeks consulting. The Greens must have wanted to do this to agree to changing the assets test with such limited scope to achieve anything substantial on retirement incomes.Interesting that was nailed down so quickly. The government is making it clear it doesn’t intend to give any ground on retirement incomes – apart from a few more weeks consulting. The Greens must have wanted to do this to agree to changing the assets test with such limited scope to achieve anything substantial on retirement incomes.
Hockey’s statement tonight:Hockey’s statement tonight:
The government’s objectives for our retirement income system are to ensure stability and certainty, while optimising retirement incomes, ensuring fiscal sustainability and equity and encouraging self-provision for retirement.The government’s objectives for our retirement income system are to ensure stability and certainty, while optimising retirement incomes, ensuring fiscal sustainability and equity and encouraging self-provision for retirement.
This is why the government has given clear commitments that there will be no unexpected, adverse changes to superannuation in this term of government nor do we have any plans for such changes beyond the next election.This is why the government has given clear commitments that there will be no unexpected, adverse changes to superannuation in this term of government nor do we have any plans for such changes beyond the next election.
Specifically, the government will not increase taxes on superannuation and will not remove any current flexibility in accessing superannuation in retirement.Specifically, the government will not increase taxes on superannuation and will not remove any current flexibility in accessing superannuation in retirement.
6.43pm AEST09:436.43pm AEST09:43
Ah yes, here's the deal. Pension peace in our timeAh yes, here's the deal. Pension peace in our time
A statement from the Greens leader Richard Di Natale, confirming his party has said yes to changes to the pension assets test.A statement from the Greens leader Richard Di Natale, confirming his party has said yes to changes to the pension assets test.
When I took on the leadership of the Greens I said I was here to get positive outcomes for the community wherever I could, so I’m pleased to be able to deliver on this. The government has agreed to give special consideration to retirement incomes in its Tax White Paper, which means we can finally look at superannuation as part of the equation.When I took on the leadership of the Greens I said I was here to get positive outcomes for the community wherever I could, so I’m pleased to be able to deliver on this. The government has agreed to give special consideration to retirement incomes in its Tax White Paper, which means we can finally look at superannuation as part of the equation.
6.38pm AEST09:386.38pm AEST09:38
Let's talk about retirement incomes provided we don't have to do anythingLet's talk about retirement incomes provided we don't have to do anything
Interesting statement just issued by the treasurer, Joe Hockey, about extending the consultation period for the tax white paper.Interesting statement just issued by the treasurer, Joe Hockey, about extending the consultation period for the tax white paper.
As a result of the strong public response to the tax white paper, stakeholder interest in the retirement incomes component of this review and discussions with the Senate, the government has decided to extend the submission period by six weeks and initiate an additional stakeholder engagement process.As a result of the strong public response to the tax white paper, stakeholder interest in the retirement incomes component of this review and discussions with the Senate, the government has decided to extend the submission period by six weeks and initiate an additional stakeholder engagement process.
The extension allows more time for interested parties to put their views into the tax white paper process in relation to key interactions between the age pension, superannuation, taxation and employment, consistent with the government’s objective of ensuring stability and the commitments we have made to the Australian people.The extension allows more time for interested parties to put their views into the tax white paper process in relation to key interactions between the age pension, superannuation, taxation and employment, consistent with the government’s objective of ensuring stability and the commitments we have made to the Australian people.
This will facilitate more detailed consideration of the interactions between the tax system and the transfer system, including the sustainability of Australia’s retirement income arrangements.This will facilitate more detailed consideration of the interactions between the tax system and the transfer system, including the sustainability of Australia’s retirement income arrangements.
This sounds a whole lot like a large olive branch to the Greens. Labor today said it would vote against pension changes outlined in the budget. The Greens have expressed an interest but want a review of retirement incomes, including super concessions. Hockey’s statement makes it clear consulting about this issue doesn’t mean doing anything – but it’s a gesture nonetheless.This sounds a whole lot like a large olive branch to the Greens. Labor today said it would vote against pension changes outlined in the budget. The Greens have expressed an interest but want a review of retirement incomes, including super concessions. Hockey’s statement makes it clear consulting about this issue doesn’t mean doing anything – but it’s a gesture nonetheless.
Updated at 6.45pm AESTUpdated at 6.45pm AEST
6.30pm AEST09:306.30pm AEST09:30
I thought I’d share the trust in professions list because there’s a fury typhoon down in the thread about Labor stepping back from scrutiny of the boats issue, and about the failure of journalism. All journalism. Ever.I thought I’d share the trust in professions list because there’s a fury typhoon down in the thread about Labor stepping back from scrutiny of the boats issue, and about the failure of journalism. All journalism. Ever.
In terms of Labor, I’ve argued yesterday and today that the opposition should pursue this story, in the parliament, because that’s the forum where misleading can’t happen (as opposed to stonewalling and evasion, which happens routinely, sadly). There is no reason not to pursue this story if their account today was true: if no Labor government authorised payments to people smugglers (criminals) to transport asylum seekers (an unlawful activity). This alleged activity is quite different to other forms of disruption by law enforcement or spooks – paying for intelligence, or preventing a crime.In terms of Labor, I’ve argued yesterday and today that the opposition should pursue this story, in the parliament, because that’s the forum where misleading can’t happen (as opposed to stonewalling and evasion, which happens routinely, sadly). There is no reason not to pursue this story if their account today was true: if no Labor government authorised payments to people smugglers (criminals) to transport asylum seekers (an unlawful activity). This alleged activity is quite different to other forms of disruption by law enforcement or spooks – paying for intelligence, or preventing a crime.
As for journalism, well, it can only keep pursuing the issue. We can keep asking questions. That’s what we do.As for journalism, well, it can only keep pursuing the issue. We can keep asking questions. That’s what we do.
6.18pm AEST09:186.18pm AEST09:18
Because it’s mildly fun, back to Essential. Journalists – less trustworthy than bankers – more trustworthy than real estate agents. Politicians – less trustworthy than all of the above.Because it’s mildly fun, back to Essential. Journalists – less trustworthy than bankers – more trustworthy than real estate agents. Politicians – less trustworthy than all of the above.
Q. In general, how much trust do you have in the following professions?Q. In general, how much trust do you have in the following professions?
6.07pm AEST09:076.07pm AEST09:07
Apart from the new video that has emerged this afternoon, Fairfax Media’s Indonesia correspondent Jewel Topsfield, who is doing an outstanding job on the ground with this payments for people smugglers story, has been shown the money. Yes, that’s a saying in our business, but in this case, it’s a literal statement.Apart from the new video that has emerged this afternoon, Fairfax Media’s Indonesia correspondent Jewel Topsfield, who is doing an outstanding job on the ground with this payments for people smugglers story, has been shown the money. Yes, that’s a saying in our business, but in this case, it’s a literal statement.
Take it away, Jewel.Take it away, Jewel.
Photographs of thousands of US dollars handed to six people smugglers have been provided to Fairfax Media, which Indonesian police say is proof of bribery by Australian officials.Photographs of thousands of US dollars handed to six people smugglers have been provided to Fairfax Media, which Indonesian police say is proof of bribery by Australian officials.
“We have given you the evidence,” says General Endang Sunjaya, the police chief of Nusa Tenggara Timur province.“We have given you the evidence,” says General Endang Sunjaya, the police chief of Nusa Tenggara Timur province.
“It’s now up to you and other organisations to demand an answer from the Australian government.”“It’s now up to you and other organisations to demand an answer from the Australian government.”
Updated at 6.07pm AESTUpdated at 6.07pm AEST
5.54pm AEST08:545.54pm AEST08:54
The Essential poll is out and about this evening. The Essential two party preferred number is much like everyone else’s – Labor 52%, Coalition 48%.The Essential poll is out and about this evening. The Essential two party preferred number is much like everyone else’s – Labor 52%, Coalition 48%.
There are a couple of questions on housing affordability. Basically we are all worried about whether we can afford to buy a house.There are a couple of questions on housing affordability. Basically we are all worried about whether we can afford to buy a house.
5.42pm AEST08:425.42pm AEST08:42
Reverse the trouser.Reverse the trouser.
Happy to withdraw trouser comment in QT today re @billshortenmp - was genuinely oblivious to alt meanings - but he will trouser your superHappy to withdraw trouser comment in QT today re @billshortenmp - was genuinely oblivious to alt meanings - but he will trouser your super
I wasn’t game to raise the full scope of trouser bandit meanings with the social services minister, Scott Morrison. Others obviously have.I wasn’t game to raise the full scope of trouser bandit meanings with the social services minister, Scott Morrison. Others obviously have.
5.17pm AEST08:175.17pm AEST08:17
More Senate business.More Senate business.
The red room has also agreed to conduct an inquiry into the handling of the Man Monis letter. (This is the one the Sydney siege gunman sent to the attorney-general George Brandis – which the government said initially was passed on to the joint NSW/federal inquiry, then later clarified was not passed on to the joint NSW/federal inquiry.)The red room has also agreed to conduct an inquiry into the handling of the Man Monis letter. (This is the one the Sydney siege gunman sent to the attorney-general George Brandis – which the government said initially was passed on to the joint NSW/federal inquiry, then later clarified was not passed on to the joint NSW/federal inquiry.)
5.03pm AEST08:035.03pm AEST08:03
Senate business.Senate business.
The red room has passed the Greens order to produce documents (we flagged this yesterday) – which in theory compels the government to reveal whether taxpayer funds were used to pay people smugglers to transport asylum seekers to Indonesia. The government has 24 hours to comply.The red room has passed the Greens order to produce documents (we flagged this yesterday) – which in theory compels the government to reveal whether taxpayer funds were used to pay people smugglers to transport asylum seekers to Indonesia. The government has 24 hours to comply.
The government won’t comply. The Senate will then have to think about its response.The government won’t comply. The Senate will then have to think about its response.
4.53pm AEST07:534.53pm AEST07:53
More on boats and payments. This video from Reuters includes an on camera account from an asylum seeker about the reported payments.More on boats and payments. This video from Reuters includes an on camera account from an asylum seeker about the reported payments.
4.44pm AEST07:444.44pm AEST07:44
To say I am not amused would be an understatementTo say I am not amused would be an understatement
My colleague Lenore Taylor has been speaking to Bret Walker after the eyebrow raising question time effort that I’ve covered in the last few posts.My colleague Lenore Taylor has been speaking to Bret Walker after the eyebrow raising question time effort that I’ve covered in the last few posts.
Take it away Bret:Take it away Bret:
I am impatient with and I condemn those who persist in reading pages of my report as if they say the government can exercise ministerial discretion after dispensing with a criminal trial. I said the minister should have discretion over the revocation of citizenship after a criminal trial ... and it reflects very poorly that those quoting me can’t read beyond the few lines they are citing.I am impatient with and I condemn those who persist in reading pages of my report as if they say the government can exercise ministerial discretion after dispensing with a criminal trial. I said the minister should have discretion over the revocation of citizenship after a criminal trial ... and it reflects very poorly that those quoting me can’t read beyond the few lines they are citing.
I assume they have been given speaking notes to that effect, but my report does not provide a justification for what they intend to do … it is not what I said, nor what I think now, and anyone who claims otherwise is wrong. In fact I am saying the opposite. I doubt many of those citing my report have read beyond the one paragraph they refer to and that does not bode well for mature consideration or lawmaking.I assume they have been given speaking notes to that effect, but my report does not provide a justification for what they intend to do … it is not what I said, nor what I think now, and anyone who claims otherwise is wrong. In fact I am saying the opposite. I doubt many of those citing my report have read beyond the one paragraph they refer to and that does not bode well for mature consideration or lawmaking.
To say I am not amused would be an understatement.To say I am not amused would be an understatement.
Updated at 4.44pm AESTUpdated at 4.44pm AEST
4.38pm AEST07:384.38pm AEST07:38
Just because he’s not finished, Malcolm Turnbull notes in the interview he’s still interested in media reform – reform of media ownership. He’d like to see Sky News on free to air television.Just because he’s not finished, Malcolm Turnbull notes in the interview he’s still interested in media reform – reform of media ownership. He’d like to see Sky News on free to air television.
Where everyone can see it.Where everyone can see it.
What time is it in New York? Probably doesn’t matter. New York never sleeps.What time is it in New York? Probably doesn’t matter. New York never sleeps.
4.35pm AEST07:354.35pm AEST07:35
Access to the courts an important principle? Of course it is.Access to the courts an important principle? Of course it is.
The communications minister Malcolm Turnbull, meanwhile, is helping out again on Sky News. Turnbull at the moment is explaining the separation of powers to Sky political editor David Speers. It’s quite useful to reflect on these principles when we are celebrating the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta, Turnbull notes.The communications minister Malcolm Turnbull, meanwhile, is helping out again on Sky News. Turnbull at the moment is explaining the separation of powers to Sky political editor David Speers. It’s quite useful to reflect on these principles when we are celebrating the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta, Turnbull notes.
He says it is very important to protect the national security of Australia. Very important. He also notes we all have to comply with the constitution. He notes that the government is still drafting the citizenship legislation, still taking legal advice.He says it is very important to protect the national security of Australia. Very important. He also notes we all have to comply with the constitution. He notes that the government is still drafting the citizenship legislation, still taking legal advice.
Is access to the courts an important principle, Speers wonders?Is access to the courts an important principle, Speers wonders?
Turnbull:Turnbull:
Access to the courts – of course it is.Access to the courts – of course it is.
4.21pm AEST07:214.21pm AEST07:21
Boats, Bret and trousersBoats, Bret and trousers
Because it’s been scrappy, I think we should take stock briefly before adjusting the dials for the early evening.Because it’s been scrappy, I think we should take stock briefly before adjusting the dials for the early evening.
A few observations.A few observations.
3.51pm AEST06:513.51pm AEST06:51
Also delightful.Also delightful.
Rise, oh Messiah.Rise, oh Messiah.
3.33pm AEST06:333.33pm AEST06:33
Mikearoo had some transmission issues in question time. Pictures flowing in now, including this lovely frame of the foreign minister. I’ll share more shortly.Mikearoo had some transmission issues in question time. Pictures flowing in now, including this lovely frame of the foreign minister. I’ll share more shortly.
3.20pm AEST06:203.20pm AEST06:20
A small debate about impartialityA small debate about impartiality
Question time has ended. Former speaker Anna Burke has a question for Madam Speaker. Burke wants to know how it is that Madam Speaker can speak of issues in the media that will come before her in the Speaker’s chair. I’m not sure precisely what Burke means, but perhaps she means Madam Speaker’s comments last night on Q&A on the government’s citizenship revocation proposal.Question time has ended. Former speaker Anna Burke has a question for Madam Speaker. Burke wants to know how it is that Madam Speaker can speak of issues in the media that will come before her in the Speaker’s chair. I’m not sure precisely what Burke means, but perhaps she means Madam Speaker’s comments last night on Q&A on the government’s citizenship revocation proposal.
Madam Speaker is both resigned to this insurrection, and not amused. She tells Burke in Australia’s Ausminster system (our version of Westminster), the speaker is politically affiliated but impartial in the chair.Madam Speaker is both resigned to this insurrection, and not amused. She tells Burke in Australia’s Ausminster system (our version of Westminster), the speaker is politically affiliated but impartial in the chair.
There is much laughter at that proposition. Haw haw haw.There is much laughter at that proposition. Haw haw haw.
Madam Speaker, crisply:Madam Speaker, crisply:
Being impartial in the chair doesn’t mean you give into the noisiest lot.Being impartial in the chair doesn’t mean you give into the noisiest lot.
Bishop says she understands it is the job of oppositions to make life difficult for the government. She said when she was in opposition, she took to the calling with alacrity. But she’s displeased at this question from Burke, a former speaker. Not cool Anna.Bishop says she understands it is the job of oppositions to make life difficult for the government. She said when she was in opposition, she took to the calling with alacrity. But she’s displeased at this question from Burke, a former speaker. Not cool Anna.
Quite a satisfying little exchange, this. (Albeit inconclusive.)Quite a satisfying little exchange, this. (Albeit inconclusive.)
Updated at 3.47pm AESTUpdated at 3.47pm AEST
3.05pm AEST06:053.05pm AEST06:05
Labor’s deputy leader, Tanya Plibersek.Labor’s deputy leader, Tanya Plibersek.
Q: Given The Australian Financial Review reports a first home buyer on their own would need to earn about $152,000 a year to afford an average house or unit in Sydney, how can teachers and firefighters expect to buy their first home in Sydney?Q: Given The Australian Financial Review reports a first home buyer on their own would need to earn about $152,000 a year to afford an average house or unit in Sydney, how can teachers and firefighters expect to buy their first home in Sydney?
Joe Hockey:Joe Hockey:
Well, for any individual, it is hard in Sydney. It is hard. I know – I understand that.Well, for any individual, it is hard in Sydney. It is hard. I know – I understand that.
But what’s interesting is, the Labor party actually wants to make it harder. And why does the Labor party want to make it harder? Because the Labor party has now indicated that they are looking at abolishing negative gearing.But what’s interesting is, the Labor party actually wants to make it harder. And why does the Labor party want to make it harder? Because the Labor party has now indicated that they are looking at abolishing negative gearing.
Hockey is going through the stats on low and middle income folks who use negative gearing concessions.Hockey is going through the stats on low and middle income folks who use negative gearing concessions.
The treasurer:The treasurer:
There are 383,000 Australians earning less than $37,000 a year that have negatively geared properties. And they are using that in a number of cases to try and get into the market to get those investment loans when they may not be able to get a home loan for a particular market.There are 383,000 Australians earning less than $37,000 a year that have negatively geared properties. And they are using that in a number of cases to try and get into the market to get those investment loans when they may not be able to get a home loan for a particular market.
Updated at 3.48pm AESTUpdated at 3.48pm AEST
2.59pm AEST05:592.59pm AEST05:59
Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen would like the treasurer Joe Hockey to outline some of the good jobs that he suggested last week were necessary for good folks to get into the housing market in Sydney.Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen would like the treasurer Joe Hockey to outline some of the good jobs that he suggested last week were necessary for good folks to get into the housing market in Sydney.
Hockey seems all out of examples. Fortunately Peter Dutton has turned up to declare Labor weak on border protection.Hockey seems all out of examples. Fortunately Peter Dutton has turned up to declare Labor weak on border protection.
2.54pm AEST05:542.54pm AEST05:54
Exhibit A, Bill Shorten’s trousers – an uncomfortable yet everpresent fixation.Exhibit A, Bill Shorten’s trousers – an uncomfortable yet everpresent fixation.
Social services minister, Scott Morrison:Social services minister, Scott Morrison:
The trouser bandit sits over there.The trouser bandit sits over there.
2.52pm AEST05:522.52pm AEST05:52
Manager of government business Christopher Pyne says the government wants to help Bill Shorten clear his name at the royal commission into trade unions. He wants Shorten to tell all to clear the air.Manager of government business Christopher Pyne says the government wants to help Bill Shorten clear his name at the royal commission into trade unions. He wants Shorten to tell all to clear the air.
Pyne:Pyne:
The leader of the opposition needs to explain what he knew and when of these emails to Douglas Site Services.The leader of the opposition needs to explain what he knew and when of these emails to Douglas Site Services.
2.48pm AEST05:482.48pm AEST05:48
Bishop to Shorten: I think you are being set upBishop to Shorten: I think you are being set up
The foreign minister Julie Bishop has the ‘Labor are hypocrites on payments to people smugglers’ Dorothy Dixer.The foreign minister Julie Bishop has the ‘Labor are hypocrites on payments to people smugglers’ Dorothy Dixer.
The foreign minister:The foreign minister:
Yesterday, in a fit of confected outrage, the opposition demanded that the government reveal security or intelligence or operational details of Operation Sovereign Borders. Indeed, the manager of opposition business was literally shouting across the dispatch box: ‘A one-word answer will settle this,’ he foamed. ‘A one-word answer that Australian taxpayers have a right to know!’Yesterday, in a fit of confected outrage, the opposition demanded that the government reveal security or intelligence or operational details of Operation Sovereign Borders. Indeed, the manager of opposition business was literally shouting across the dispatch box: ‘A one-word answer will settle this,’ he foamed. ‘A one-word answer that Australian taxpayers have a right to know!’
Yet later, this very same minister, who’s now deeply engaged in conversation that he wasn’t a minute ago, was asked to provide clarification about such matters under the previous Labor government. What’d he say?Yet later, this very same minister, who’s now deeply engaged in conversation that he wasn’t a minute ago, was asked to provide clarification about such matters under the previous Labor government. What’d he say?
The shadow minister for immigration and border protection came up with one word: unlawful. He said, it’s unlawful for the government or the opposition - unlawful for the government or the opposition to divulge security or intelligence information.The shadow minister for immigration and border protection came up with one word: unlawful. He said, it’s unlawful for the government or the opposition - unlawful for the government or the opposition to divulge security or intelligence information.
Oh is that right? So that was the word, was it? Unlawful.Oh is that right? So that was the word, was it? Unlawful.
Now, I don’t know that members of this House saw the excruciating performance of the leader of the opposition about an hour ago, but when he was asked to provide the very same information that had been demanded of the government – he refused.Now, I don’t know that members of this House saw the excruciating performance of the leader of the opposition about an hour ago, but when he was asked to provide the very same information that had been demanded of the government – he refused.
So it’s ok for the leader of the opposition to refuse to reveal operational details, but not for the government?So it’s ok for the leader of the opposition to refuse to reveal operational details, but not for the government?
And I have some advice for the leader of the opposition. I would be very careful to rule in anything or rule out anything under Labor’s watch.And I have some advice for the leader of the opposition. I would be very careful to rule in anything or rule out anything under Labor’s watch.
Don’t rely on the advice of your frontbench on ruling in or ruling out security and intelligence matters on Labor’s watch.Don’t rely on the advice of your frontbench on ruling in or ruling out security and intelligence matters on Labor’s watch.
I think you’re being set up.I think you’re being set up.
(A wag might observe Julie Bishop knows a little of being set up, having last week denied any payments to people smugglers, only to have that denial contradicted by a non-denial from the prime minister. Perhaps Shorten should listen up.)(A wag might observe Julie Bishop knows a little of being set up, having last week denied any payments to people smugglers, only to have that denial contradicted by a non-denial from the prime minister. Perhaps Shorten should listen up.)
2.40pm AEST05:402.40pm AEST05:40
Shalailah MedhoraShalailah Medhora
Over in the Senate, the attorney-general, George Brandis also read from the same clause in Bret Walker’s report as Peter Dutton did in the House – pg 57 where it talks about the minister’s power for revocation.Over in the Senate, the attorney-general, George Brandis also read from the same clause in Bret Walker’s report as Peter Dutton did in the House – pg 57 where it talks about the minister’s power for revocation.
After reading out the passage, attorney-general Brandis said:After reading out the passage, attorney-general Brandis said:
We are following that advice to the letter.We are following that advice to the letter.
2.38pm AEST05:382.38pm AEST05:38
Labor’s families spokeswoman Jenny Macklin.Labor’s families spokeswoman Jenny Macklin.
Q: My question is to the prime minister. Why is the prime minister trousering money from part pensioners while at the same time failing to address unsustainable superannuation tax concessions for high income earners?Q: My question is to the prime minister. Why is the prime minister trousering money from part pensioners while at the same time failing to address unsustainable superannuation tax concessions for high income earners?
(Lest you conclude Jenny Macklin has just developed a trouser fixation, she’s quoting Abbott to Abbott. The prime minister likes Bill Shorten trousering various things.)(Lest you conclude Jenny Macklin has just developed a trouser fixation, she’s quoting Abbott to Abbott. The prime minister likes Bill Shorten trousering various things.)
Tony Abbott:Tony Abbott:
They’re very sensitive over there, aren’t they? Very, very sensitive. Very sensitive.They’re very sensitive over there, aren’t they? Very, very sensitive. Very sensitive.
How lost is the modern Labor party? I’ve got to say, I never thought I would say that the Greens are showing more sense on this issue than the Labor party. But I believe they are. I believe they are.How lost is the modern Labor party? I’ve got to say, I never thought I would say that the Greens are showing more sense on this issue than the Labor party. But I believe they are. I believe they are.
I think even the Greens are more interested in sensible pension reform than members opposite.I think even the Greens are more interested in sensible pension reform than members opposite.
2.29pm AEST05:292.29pm AEST05:29
Today, the opposition decided to deny to 170,000 people with relatively low assets a pension increase of $30 a fortnight.Today, the opposition decided to deny to 170,000 people with relatively low assets a pension increase of $30 a fortnight.
This is the prime minister, on Labor’s decision today to knock back the government’s pension proposal.This is the prime minister, on Labor’s decision today to knock back the government’s pension proposal.
They don’t want poorer pensioners to get more money. What they do want is millionaire pensioners to keep their part pensions. That’s what this opposition wants. They want millionaires who also own their family home, so they want people who have more than a million dollars in assets, plus their family home, to stay as part pensioners.They don’t want poorer pensioners to get more money. What they do want is millionaire pensioners to keep their part pensions. That’s what this opposition wants. They want millionaires who also own their family home, so they want people who have more than a million dollars in assets, plus their family home, to stay as part pensioners.
Well, Madam Speaker, this is a strange position for the Labor party and it shows absolutely comprehensively, this is the welfare party, it’s not the workers’ party any more.Well, Madam Speaker, this is a strange position for the Labor party and it shows absolutely comprehensively, this is the welfare party, it’s not the workers’ party any more.
2.26pm AEST05:262.26pm AEST05:26
The Messiah rises on punch and shear machinesThe Messiah rises on punch and shear machines
He’d been thinking for some time about a more efficient punch and shear machine for his metal business.He’d been thinking for some time about a more efficient punch and shear machine for his metal business.
The small business minister Bruce Billson. A little ray of ‘small business 100% tax deductibility’ sunshine.The small business minister Bruce Billson. A little ray of ‘small business 100% tax deductibility’ sunshine.
Messianic – the prime minister noted in the party room today, of Billson’s approach to his portfolio. Forgot to tell you that. Sorry.Messianic – the prime minister noted in the party room today, of Billson’s approach to his portfolio. Forgot to tell you that. Sorry.
2.22pm AEST05:222.22pm AEST05:22
Independent, Andrew Wilkie, to the prime minister.Independent, Andrew Wilkie, to the prime minister.
Q: Prime Minister, seeing as we helped to start the (Iraq) war and create the Islamic State threat, will you acknowledge the Howard government got it very wrong and agree to a proper war inquiry?Q: Prime Minister, seeing as we helped to start the (Iraq) war and create the Islamic State threat, will you acknowledge the Howard government got it very wrong and agree to a proper war inquiry?
Tony Abbott:Tony Abbott:
I appreciate that this is a matter which is very important to the member for Denison. I appreciate that he had deeply held views on that particular conflict and I would probably be prepared to concede that he was right to feel a little bruised by some of the treatment that he was given at that time.I appreciate that this is a matter which is very important to the member for Denison. I appreciate that he had deeply held views on that particular conflict and I would probably be prepared to concede that he was right to feel a little bruised by some of the treatment that he was given at that time.
But I don’t want to dwell on the past. I would rather deal with today’s problems than yesterday’s problems. I would rather prosecute the conflict against the Daesh death cult than try to re prosecute a fight that’s finished against Saddam Hussein.But I don’t want to dwell on the past. I would rather deal with today’s problems than yesterday’s problems. I would rather prosecute the conflict against the Daesh death cult than try to re prosecute a fight that’s finished against Saddam Hussein.
That’s my honest response to the member for Denison.That’s my honest response to the member for Denison.
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After some lyricism about Tony’s tradies, Marles is back.After some lyricism about Tony’s tradies, Marles is back.
Q: My question is to the minister for immigration and border protection. I refer to the minister’s previous answer. Why did the minister, in referring to the former independent national security legislation monitor, fail to refer to his comments yesterday that it was “constitutionally unthinkable” to revoke a person’s citizenship without a conviction and that he “never dreamed it would be possible”?Q: My question is to the minister for immigration and border protection. I refer to the minister’s previous answer. Why did the minister, in referring to the former independent national security legislation monitor, fail to refer to his comments yesterday that it was “constitutionally unthinkable” to revoke a person’s citizenship without a conviction and that he “never dreamed it would be possible”?
Peter Dutton:Peter Dutton:
Thank you very much, and I thank the member for his question. Now, I don’t know how you could read into this recommendation those words. Because I can read directly from the report. I can read the honourable Mr Walker’s own words to you. He says “For the minister for immigration to revoke the citizenship of Australians where they’re not rendered stateless, where the minister is satisfied that the person has engaged in acts prejudicial to Australia’s security, and it is not in Australia’s interests for the person ...”Thank you very much, and I thank the member for his question. Now, I don’t know how you could read into this recommendation those words. Because I can read directly from the report. I can read the honourable Mr Walker’s own words to you. He says “For the minister for immigration to revoke the citizenship of Australians where they’re not rendered stateless, where the minister is satisfied that the person has engaged in acts prejudicial to Australia’s security, and it is not in Australia’s interests for the person ...”
Labor interjects, what about Walker’s comments?Labor interjects, what about Walker’s comments?
Dutton:Dutton:
In the end people will make their own judgments because in black and white here, we have the records of Mr Walker SC. We have no issue with Mr Walker. Our issue is with the Labor party because the Labor party tries to sit on both sides of this debate. That’s the problem for Bill Shorten, that’s the problem for this leader of the opposition.In the end people will make their own judgments because in black and white here, we have the records of Mr Walker SC. We have no issue with Mr Walker. Our issue is with the Labor party because the Labor party tries to sit on both sides of this debate. That’s the problem for Bill Shorten, that’s the problem for this leader of the opposition.
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Shadow immigration minister, Richard Marles, to Peter Dutton.Shadow immigration minister, Richard Marles, to Peter Dutton.
Q: I refer to government’s blatantly political confidential briefing note on the revocation of Australian citizenship in which it states, “A law requiring a terrorist conviction would be toothless.” Can the minister confirm, under his citizenship proposal, he, as minister, will make the decision to revoke Australian citizenship from a dual citizen suspected of fighting against Australia?Q: I refer to government’s blatantly political confidential briefing note on the revocation of Australian citizenship in which it states, “A law requiring a terrorist conviction would be toothless.” Can the minister confirm, under his citizenship proposal, he, as minister, will make the decision to revoke Australian citizenship from a dual citizen suspected of fighting against Australia?
Immigration minister Peter Dutton emulates the prime minister. We are just following advice from Bret Walker. That’s what we are doing. (This would be the advice that Walker says he didn’t intend to give.)Immigration minister Peter Dutton emulates the prime minister. We are just following advice from Bret Walker. That’s what we are doing. (This would be the advice that Walker says he didn’t intend to give.)
Peter Dutton:Peter Dutton:
I welcome any question whatsoever from the opposition in relation to this very important matter because this government will stare down the threat that is posed to the Australian public as best we can.I welcome any question whatsoever from the opposition in relation to this very important matter because this government will stare down the threat that is posed to the Australian public as best we can.
We’ve demonstrated that in securing our borders. When Labor was in government, they had completely and utterly lost control of our borders and if you can’t control your borders, you can’t control national security.We’ve demonstrated that in securing our borders. When Labor was in government, they had completely and utterly lost control of our borders and if you can’t control your borders, you can’t control national security.
2.09pm AEST05:092.09pm AEST05:09
Question timeQuestion time
It being 2pm, Madam Speaker calls time on a fascinating tale being recounted by the Liberal MP Dennis Jensen about app-trepreneurs.It being 2pm, Madam Speaker calls time on a fascinating tale being recounted by the Liberal MP Dennis Jensen about app-trepreneurs.
A pity I know.A pity I know.
Bill Shorten opens on citizenship. Why haven’t we see legislation, and why is the prime minister trying to destroy bipartisanship on national security?Bill Shorten opens on citizenship. Why haven’t we see legislation, and why is the prime minister trying to destroy bipartisanship on national security?
The prime minister says the legislation is coming. A briefing is coming. Abbott says he’s following a recommendation by Bret Walker – the outgoing national security legislation monitor.The prime minister says the legislation is coming. A briefing is coming. Abbott says he’s following a recommendation by Bret Walker – the outgoing national security legislation monitor.
Bret Walker SC said “Consideration should be given to the introduction of a power for the minister for immigration to revoke the citizenship of Australians where the minister is satisfied that the person has engaged in acts prejudicial to Australia’s security and it is not in Australia’s interests for the person to remain in Australia.”Bret Walker SC said “Consideration should be given to the introduction of a power for the minister for immigration to revoke the citizenship of Australians where the minister is satisfied that the person has engaged in acts prejudicial to Australia’s security and it is not in Australia’s interests for the person to remain in Australia.”
So that’s exactly what we’re doing. That’s exactly what we are doing. We are acting upon the recommendation of Bret Walker SC. That’s what we’re doing, because we will never rest, until we are confident that the Australian people are as safe as we can make them.So that’s exactly what we’re doing. That’s exactly what we are doing. We are acting upon the recommendation of Bret Walker SC. That’s what we’re doing, because we will never rest, until we are confident that the Australian people are as safe as we can make them.
Just for the record. Walker has made it very clear over the past few days that was not the intent of his recommendation. He’s said it never occurred to him that any government would consider moving against a citizen in the absence of a conviction by a court. He didn’t think he’d need to spell that out.Just for the record. Walker has made it very clear over the past few days that was not the intent of his recommendation. He’s said it never occurred to him that any government would consider moving against a citizen in the absence of a conviction by a court. He didn’t think he’d need to spell that out.
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Well what on earth do we make of the last five hours?Well what on earth do we make of the last five hours?
I’d best attempt a lunchtime summary before we slam face first into the hour of glower.I’d best attempt a lunchtime summary before we slam face first into the hour of glower.
Tuesday morning, in Canberra (where my blustery forecast first up didn’t accurately capture the powerful northerly gale of .. everything):Tuesday morning, in Canberra (where my blustery forecast first up didn’t accurately capture the powerful northerly gale of .. everything):
Power to dissidents.Power to dissidents.
Power to question time – 2pm.Power to question time – 2pm.
Good viewing.Good viewing.
Updated at 1.54pm AESTUpdated at 1.54pm AEST
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Don Randall. It don’t mean a thing if you ain’t got that zinG.Don Randall. It don’t mean a thing if you ain’t got that zinG.
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My colleague Shalailah Medhora is back from the Coaliton party room debrief. One notable intervention: the Liberal MP Don Randall told colleagues if they wanted to support gay marriage, they could create a roster to do so on the ABC.My colleague Shalailah Medhora is back from the Coaliton party room debrief. One notable intervention: the Liberal MP Don Randall told colleagues if they wanted to support gay marriage, they could create a roster to do so on the ABC.
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Shorten wound up that press conference by stepping around a question on what Labor would do with the citizenship proposal.Shorten wound up that press conference by stepping around a question on what Labor would do with the citizenship proposal.
Updated at 1.55pm AESTUpdated at 1.55pm AEST
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Q: Is Labor going to change its position on turning back the boats?Q: Is Labor going to change its position on turning back the boats?
Bill Shorten:Bill Shorten:
The terms of our refugee resettlement approach, we are fundamentally commited to the resettlement of refugees. We are working on all of our policies. We will have a full suite of policies at the next election which I’m sure you will like a lot.The terms of our refugee resettlement approach, we are fundamentally commited to the resettlement of refugees. We are working on all of our policies. We will have a full suite of policies at the next election which I’m sure you will like a lot.
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Shorten is asked about allegations before the royal commission into trade unions. He says he’ll cooperate fully with the commission but won’t respond to baseless allegations when there is nothing in them.Shorten is asked about allegations before the royal commission into trade unions. He says he’ll cooperate fully with the commission but won’t respond to baseless allegations when there is nothing in them.
He’s asked about Labor and disruption of people smuggling operations. Shorten, like Marles, won’t get into the general, but he’ll answer a specific.He’s asked about Labor and disruption of people smuggling operations. Shorten, like Marles, won’t get into the general, but he’ll answer a specific.
I am saying Labor has never paid people smugglers to turn back boats as it appears the government has done.I am saying Labor has never paid people smugglers to turn back boats as it appears the government has done.
Q: Labor didn’t condone any payments to people smugglers in Indonesia during your time in government?Q: Labor didn’t condone any payments to people smugglers in Indonesia during your time in government?
I’m certainly not aware of that but what I would say to you is: when it comes to national security matters ... we don’t talk about that. No serious leader does.I’m certainly not aware of that but what I would say to you is: when it comes to national security matters ... we don’t talk about that. No serious leader does.
(Shorten is trying to say he won’t talk about the general because that might touch on Asis operations, and he won’t do that, but he will rule out specific payments to transmit asylum seekers.)(Shorten is trying to say he won’t talk about the general because that might touch on Asis operations, and he won’t do that, but he will rule out specific payments to transmit asylum seekers.)
Q: You told the party room this morning that Labor had made mistakes in the past in respect to boats. What are those mistakes?Q: You told the party room this morning that Labor had made mistakes in the past in respect to boats. What are those mistakes?
Clearly we introduced – there were policies which saw the people smugglers try and take advantage of Australia’s generosity. We are working through these issues. But what I would say is that Labor will not cede the issue of border security to the Liberal party. Labor is determined to make sure we have a strong policy which is humane towards refugees but also safe and make sure the people smugglers can never get back into business.Clearly we introduced – there were policies which saw the people smugglers try and take advantage of Australia’s generosity. We are working through these issues. But what I would say is that Labor will not cede the issue of border security to the Liberal party. Labor is determined to make sure we have a strong policy which is humane towards refugees but also safe and make sure the people smugglers can never get back into business.
And I do think this current debate about boats has come about because either the government is incompetent and is saying things that aren’t true or is incompetent and saying things they oughtn’t be talking about.And I do think this current debate about boats has come about because either the government is incompetent and is saying things that aren’t true or is incompetent and saying things they oughtn’t be talking about.
You and I both know Tony Abbott can clear these matters up very simply with a yes or no just as I’ve done.You and I both know Tony Abbott can clear these matters up very simply with a yes or no just as I’ve done.
Updated at 1.59pm AESTUpdated at 1.59pm AEST
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Q: You have repeatedly attacked last year’s budget on the basis of unfairness. Is it not the case this pension proposal is calibrated that people on more modest means get an increase and those at the upper end get a decrease.Q: You have repeatedly attacked last year’s budget on the basis of unfairness. Is it not the case this pension proposal is calibrated that people on more modest means get an increase and those at the upper end get a decrease.
How can this not be fairer than the indexation proposal from last year?How can this not be fairer than the indexation proposal from last year?
Bill Shorten:Bill Shorten:
When you make it out it is a binary competition, in one corner some pensioners and in the other corner other pensioners. The group you missed is people who have multiple millions of dollars in superannuation.When you make it out it is a binary competition, in one corner some pensioners and in the other corner other pensioners. The group you missed is people who have multiple millions of dollars in superannuation.
Let me unpack that a little bit more. What the Abbott government is saying, they want to keep tax-free income for people who have say $5m in super. Say they get 5% return, $250,000 per year. We’ve said that the tax concession, that shouldn’t all be tax-free. That’s what we have said.Let me unpack that a little bit more. What the Abbott government is saying, they want to keep tax-free income for people who have say $5m in super. Say they get 5% return, $250,000 per year. We’ve said that the tax concession, that shouldn’t all be tax-free. That’s what we have said.
Yet what Mr Abbott wants to do is have a fight between different groups of pensioners about fighting over their portion when Mr Abbott is giving a leave pass to people who don’t need – you or I or the taxpayers of Australia to give them tax-free income from massive millions of dollars.Yet what Mr Abbott wants to do is have a fight between different groups of pensioners about fighting over their portion when Mr Abbott is giving a leave pass to people who don’t need – you or I or the taxpayers of Australia to give them tax-free income from massive millions of dollars.
12.57pm AEST03:5712.57pm AEST03:57
Bill Shorten confirms Labor will reject the budget pension changesBill Shorten confirms Labor will reject the budget pension changes
The Labor leader and families spokeswoman Jenny Macklin are having a press conference to back in their pension announcement.The Labor leader and families spokeswoman Jenny Macklin are having a press conference to back in their pension announcement.
Macklin:Macklin:
People in their 50s and 60s who are contemplating and planning their retirement right now have to know that these cuts will hurt them. These cuts will hurt those people who are planning their retirement now.People in their 50s and 60s who are contemplating and planning their retirement right now have to know that these cuts will hurt them. These cuts will hurt those people who are planning their retirement now.
There is around 700,000 people in that category and they are very much in our minds as we make this decision.There is around 700,000 people in that category and they are very much in our minds as we make this decision.
12.44pm AEST03:4412.44pm AEST03:44
Van Onselen also pursues Richard Marles about boat turnbacks. What is his position on turning asylum boats back to Indonesia?Van Onselen also pursues Richard Marles about boat turnbacks. What is his position on turning asylum boats back to Indonesia?
The shadow immigration minister tries very hard to straddle a barbed wire fence. He says Labor will debate turnbacks at the national conference due in July and that will be a good thing – it will be a debate founded on strong values.The shadow immigration minister tries very hard to straddle a barbed wire fence. He says Labor will debate turnbacks at the national conference due in July and that will be a good thing – it will be a debate founded on strong values.
Marles says Labor has concerns about turnbacks. This week underscores the concerns. Labor has asked questions about specifics and can’t get answers.Marles says Labor has concerns about turnbacks. This week underscores the concerns. Labor has asked questions about specifics and can’t get answers.
But he also says that noone has any interest in reopening the ocean journey between Java and Christmas Island.But he also says that noone has any interest in reopening the ocean journey between Java and Christmas Island.
What does that mean? It means watch this space.What does that mean? It means watch this space.
12.38pm AEST03:3812.38pm AEST03:38
On Sky News, the shadow immigration minister Richard Marles is declaring the government has thrown ASIS under the bus in order to distract attention from an incompetent minister. This is about payments to people smugglers.On Sky News, the shadow immigration minister Richard Marles is declaring the government has thrown ASIS under the bus in order to distract attention from an incompetent minister. This is about payments to people smugglers.
Marles:Marles:
We are not going to answer questions in respect of the conduct of ASIS. Of course we are not going to talk about it because it would be unlawful to do so.We are not going to answer questions in respect of the conduct of ASIS. Of course we are not going to talk about it because it would be unlawful to do so.
This has nothing to do with ASIS.This has nothing to do with ASIS.
Host Peter Van Onselen wants to know whether Labor has ever given money to people smugglers. He doesn’t answer the general question, he answers more specifically.Host Peter Van Onselen wants to know whether Labor has ever given money to people smugglers. He doesn’t answer the general question, he answers more specifically.
We’ve never paid money to turn around boats.We’ve never paid money to turn around boats.
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I’m now battling the Tuesday acceleration.I’m now battling the Tuesday acceleration.
My colleague Daniel Hurst is just back from the Labor caucus debrief. Given we are about to hit a press conference on pensions, I’ll keep this briefish. Shorten told colleagues Labor was correct yesterday to pursue the government over the reported payments to people smugglers to take asylum seekers to Indonesia.My colleague Daniel Hurst is just back from the Labor caucus debrief. Given we are about to hit a press conference on pensions, I’ll keep this briefish. Shorten told colleagues Labor was correct yesterday to pursue the government over the reported payments to people smugglers to take asylum seekers to Indonesia.
The Labor leader said in government the party had made mistakes (these weren’t specified) .. but ..The Labor leader said in government the party had made mistakes (these weren’t specified) .. but ..
Because of the chaos of this government the prime minister must rule out paying people smugglers to keep people on unsafe boats. We made mistakes in this area and we have learned the difficult lessons of the past and we remember when the Liberals got together with the Greens to block the Malaysia agreement.Because of the chaos of this government the prime minister must rule out paying people smugglers to keep people on unsafe boats. We made mistakes in this area and we have learned the difficult lessons of the past and we remember when the Liberals got together with the Greens to block the Malaysia agreement.
We have every right to ask questions about this and to expect answers. I will not cede this issue to the Liberals. They are not above reproach.We have every right to ask questions about this and to expect answers. I will not cede this issue to the Liberals. They are not above reproach.
Shorten also faced a couple of questions on citizenship. In the context of the Magna Carta anniversary, he was asked whether Labor was really going to “put our trust in Peter Dutton” when it came to revocation? Daniel tells me Shorten said what he generally says on this issue (We haven’t seen the proposal yet) but he added:Shorten also faced a couple of questions on citizenship. In the context of the Magna Carta anniversary, he was asked whether Labor was really going to “put our trust in Peter Dutton” when it came to revocation? Daniel tells me Shorten said what he generally says on this issue (We haven’t seen the proposal yet) but he added:
We need to jealously guard the separation of powers.We need to jealously guard the separation of powers.
There was another citizenship-related question on standing up for multicultural Australians.There was another citizenship-related question on standing up for multicultural Australians.
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I haven’t had time to get to it yet but there is a news story around this morning in which Barnaby Joyce departs from the government’s official position on foreign investment by arguing state owned entreprises shouldn’t own Australian farm land. Tony Abbott tried to clean this up at his early press conference this morning. The prime minister said Joyce was merely making the point when it comes to foreign governments, as opposed to private businesses from overseas, different rules apply. They always have and as far as I’m concerned they always will.I haven’t had time to get to it yet but there is a news story around this morning in which Barnaby Joyce departs from the government’s official position on foreign investment by arguing state owned entreprises shouldn’t own Australian farm land. Tony Abbott tried to clean this up at his early press conference this morning. The prime minister said Joyce was merely making the point when it comes to foreign governments, as opposed to private businesses from overseas, different rules apply. They always have and as far as I’m concerned they always will.
The agriculture minister is asked at this press conference why he went off script at a recent National party conference to argue that state owned enterprises shouldn’t own Australian farm land. Joyce makes it clear this is his personal view, and he says he’s entitled to articulate it:The agriculture minister is asked at this press conference why he went off script at a recent National party conference to argue that state owned enterprises shouldn’t own Australian farm land. Joyce makes it clear this is his personal view, and he says he’s entitled to articulate it:
As a member of the National party, at any of these conferences, you have the capacity to speak your mind.As a member of the National party, at any of these conferences, you have the capacity to speak your mind.
It is why I joined the National party. We believe in the liberty of the individual and the freedom of expression and your capacity to go to the floor, stand behind a microphone and present your view.It is why I joined the National party. We believe in the liberty of the individual and the freedom of expression and your capacity to go to the floor, stand behind a microphone and present your view.
Might I say it stands to reason that the preference for the Australian people is that the Australian family owns the Australian farm.Might I say it stands to reason that the preference for the Australian people is that the Australian family owns the Australian farm.
11.41am AEST02:4111.41am AEST02:41
In another little corner of politics, the agriculture minister Barnaby Joyce is speaking about dogs. Not the Depp dogs. Wild dogs.In another little corner of politics, the agriculture minister Barnaby Joyce is speaking about dogs. Not the Depp dogs. Wild dogs.
(Mind the signage.) Joyce reflects on the character of the wild dog.(Mind the signage.) Joyce reflects on the character of the wild dog.
They kill because they enjoy killing.They kill because they enjoy killing.
Updated at 12.25pm AESTUpdated at 12.25pm AEST
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Speaking as we were of the Greens, Greens leader Richard Di Natale is holding a press conference just now in the Mural Hall.Speaking as we were of the Greens, Greens leader Richard Di Natale is holding a press conference just now in the Mural Hall.
Q: What do you make of comments that the prime minister made this morning that Australia’s relationship with Indonesia is growing stronger every day and criticising the media for essentially dividing or creating division between the countries?Q: What do you make of comments that the prime minister made this morning that Australia’s relationship with Indonesia is growing stronger every day and criticising the media for essentially dividing or creating division between the countries?
This nonsense that this is somehow some invention from the press gallery here in Canberra. We have what is a worrying international incident caused by this prime minister who is simply incapable of recognising that his actions are harming us.This nonsense that this is somehow some invention from the press gallery here in Canberra. We have what is a worrying international incident caused by this prime minister who is simply incapable of recognising that his actions are harming us.
We have got to a point where we have a prime minister who says black is white and white is black. It is not good enough. It is not good enough to continue to engage in this cloak of secrecy that surrounds this debate.We have got to a point where we have a prime minister who says black is white and white is black. It is not good enough. It is not good enough to continue to engage in this cloak of secrecy that surrounds this debate.
You know why they do it? For one reason. They know that if the press, that if doctors and teachers, people who have been inside our detention centres and know what is going on there, if the Australian community became aware of what is happening in those places, and connected with the stories of these individual human beings who are doing nothing other than coming to us for protection, they know that the Australian community would not tolerate it.You know why they do it? For one reason. They know that if the press, that if doctors and teachers, people who have been inside our detention centres and know what is going on there, if the Australian community became aware of what is happening in those places, and connected with the stories of these individual human beings who are doing nothing other than coming to us for protection, they know that the Australian community would not tolerate it.
Updated at 12.27pm AESTUpdated at 12.27pm AEST
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Labor’s decision on the pensions will mean the government will either have to go to the Senate crossbench, or seek a deal with the Greens. The Greens have made some overtures on the pensions front. But if it’s to be a deal with the Greens, the government will have to cop a comprehensive review of all retirement incomes, including those generous super tax breaks. The government has been hosing down the need for any such review.Labor’s decision on the pensions will mean the government will either have to go to the Senate crossbench, or seek a deal with the Greens. The Greens have made some overtures on the pensions front. But if it’s to be a deal with the Greens, the government will have to cop a comprehensive review of all retirement incomes, including those generous super tax breaks. The government has been hosing down the need for any such review.
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If you want to have a look at the explanatory memorandum for the specific budget bill we are talking about, you can find it here.If you want to have a look at the explanatory memorandum for the specific budget bill we are talking about, you can find it here.
Cutting to the fiscal chase, Labor’s decision this morning will see it oppose $2.9bn worth of proposed savings, but support $1.5bn worth of proposed savings.Cutting to the fiscal chase, Labor’s decision this morning will see it oppose $2.9bn worth of proposed savings, but support $1.5bn worth of proposed savings.
Referenced against the specific measures outlined in the explanatory memorandum, Labor is opposing the assets test changes; the proportional payment of pensions outside Australia; the pensioner education supplement; and the education entry payment. Labor will support defined benefit income streams and the energy supplement replacing seniors supplement.Referenced against the specific measures outlined in the explanatory memorandum, Labor is opposing the assets test changes; the proportional payment of pensions outside Australia; the pensioner education supplement; and the education entry payment. Labor will support defined benefit income streams and the energy supplement replacing seniors supplement.
Bill Shorten and Labor’s families spokeswoman Jenny Macklin will front the media in a bit.Bill Shorten and Labor’s families spokeswoman Jenny Macklin will front the media in a bit.
Updated at 11.21am AESTUpdated at 11.21am AEST
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If you need a prompt for the budget measure Labor is opposing, or opposing in part. Direct from the budget papers:If you need a prompt for the budget measure Labor is opposing, or opposing in part. Direct from the budget papers:
The government will achieve savings of $2.4bn over five years by increasing the asset test thresholds and the withdrawal rate at which pensions are reduced once the threshold is exceeded.The government will achieve savings of $2.4bn over five years by increasing the asset test thresholds and the withdrawal rate at which pensions are reduced once the threshold is exceeded.
This measure will improve the targeting of Australian government payments to those most in need by providing additional assistance for those with moderate asset holdings, while reducing assistance to those with more significant asset holdings.This measure will improve the targeting of Australian government payments to those most in need by providing additional assistance for those with moderate asset holdings, while reducing assistance to those with more significant asset holdings.
Pensioners who lose pension entitlement on 1 January 2017 as a result of these changes will automatically be issued with a Commonwealth Seniors Health Card or a Health Care Card for those under Age Pension age.Pensioners who lose pension entitlement on 1 January 2017 as a result of these changes will automatically be issued with a Commonwealth Seniors Health Card or a Health Care Card for those under Age Pension age.
In addition, the government will not proceed with the 2014-15 Budget measure Index Pension and Pension Equivalent Payments by the Consumer Price Index.In addition, the government will not proceed with the 2014-15 Budget measure Index Pension and Pension Equivalent Payments by the Consumer Price Index.
Pension and pension equivalent payment rates will continue to be indexed under current arrangements — by the higher of the increases in the Consumer Price Index (CPI) or the Pensioner and Beneficiary Living Cost Index (PBLCI) and benchmarked against Male Total Average Weekly Earnings (MTAWE).Pension and pension equivalent payment rates will continue to be indexed under current arrangements — by the higher of the increases in the Consumer Price Index (CPI) or the Pensioner and Beneficiary Living Cost Index (PBLCI) and benchmarked against Male Total Average Weekly Earnings (MTAWE).
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It being parliamentary Tuesday, the Coalition party room and the Labor caucus are meeting downstairs. It’s clear the citizenship legislation will not appear this week, because it was not put to the Coalition partyroom this morning.It being parliamentary Tuesday, the Coalition party room and the Labor caucus are meeting downstairs. It’s clear the citizenship legislation will not appear this week, because it was not put to the Coalition partyroom this morning.
James Massola from Fairfax also has a jump on a Labor development put to caucus.James Massola from Fairfax also has a jump on a Labor development put to caucus.
Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has announced that Labor will oppose the government’s proposed pension changes. The decision, revealed to the caucus on Tuesday morning, finally makes clear the federal opposition’s position on one of the most contentious measures contained in the budget.Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has announced that Labor will oppose the government’s proposed pension changes. The decision, revealed to the caucus on Tuesday morning, finally makes clear the federal opposition’s position on one of the most contentious measures contained in the budget.
(This is the proposed assets test and taper rates.)(This is the proposed assets test and taper rates.)
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The art of protest.The art of protest.
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Speaking of disruption, the constabulary is hard at work at the front of the building, taking names.Speaking of disruption, the constabulary is hard at work at the front of the building, taking names.
I’m not sure if this Oxfam protest person gave his name as enormous headed Tony Abbott. Perhaps he used another name.I’m not sure if this Oxfam protest person gave his name as enormous headed Tony Abbott. Perhaps he used another name.
10.20am AEST01:2010.20am AEST01:20
Setting aside murderous rage in favour of clarity for the head: again, let’s be clear about boats and payments to people smugglers, or as clear as we can in the absence of help, like facts. (I’m doing this as much for me as for you at this point.)Setting aside murderous rage in favour of clarity for the head: again, let’s be clear about boats and payments to people smugglers, or as clear as we can in the absence of help, like facts. (I’m doing this as much for me as for you at this point.)
I suspect we’ll keep having to ask these questions. I suspect Labor won’t continue to ask these questions. Let’s see if I’m wrong.I suspect we’ll keep having to ask these questions. I suspect Labor won’t continue to ask these questions. Let’s see if I’m wrong.
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Not sure how I got from Richard Marles’ spokeswoman to murderous rage, but I think I’ll just go with it. Here’s an interview former prime minister Julia Gillard has done with BBC News Night.Not sure how I got from Richard Marles’ spokeswoman to murderous rage, but I think I’ll just go with it. Here’s an interview former prime minister Julia Gillard has done with BBC News Night.
Gillard says in this interview she wouldn’t presume to give Hillary Clinton advice, but here’s some advice to the woman who might be the next president of the US: hit those gendered insults hard and early. Don’t let it fester.Gillard says in this interview she wouldn’t presume to give Hillary Clinton advice, but here’s some advice to the woman who might be the next president of the US: hit those gendered insults hard and early. Don’t let it fester.
Updated at 10.08am AESTUpdated at 10.08am AEST
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A spokeswoman for the shadow immigration minister Richard Marles is saying this morning of happenings to our north:A spokeswoman for the shadow immigration minister Richard Marles is saying this morning of happenings to our north:
Labor didn’t pay people smugglers to turn back boats.Labor didn’t pay people smugglers to turn back boats.
(The Fairfax story says payments under the previous Labor government were to informants, or to stop syndicates from launching boats.)(The Fairfax story says payments under the previous Labor government were to informants, or to stop syndicates from launching boats.)
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Another reader has pointed me to a story from Fairfax Media’s David Wroe and Sarah Whyte, which I missed in the early morning flurry.Another reader has pointed me to a story from Fairfax Media’s David Wroe and Sarah Whyte, which I missed in the early morning flurry.
Cash payments have been made to members of Indonesian people-smuggling rings by Australian intelligence officials for at least the past four years – including under the former Labor government, Fairfax Media has learnt. Multiple sources have said that such payments have been part of successive governments’ tactics, though not always as part of boat turnbacks, which were not used by the previous government. Instances include paying members of syndicates for information about the operations of the syndicate, or to dissuade them from launching boats.Cash payments have been made to members of Indonesian people-smuggling rings by Australian intelligence officials for at least the past four years – including under the former Labor government, Fairfax Media has learnt. Multiple sources have said that such payments have been part of successive governments’ tactics, though not always as part of boat turnbacks, which were not used by the previous government. Instances include paying members of syndicates for information about the operations of the syndicate, or to dissuade them from launching boats.
Doesn’t matter to me who made the payments – which stripe of government I mean – the first principles question remains the same. Was the activity within the law?Doesn’t matter to me who made the payments – which stripe of government I mean – the first principles question remains the same. Was the activity within the law?
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On the lawfulness question, Tim Bell, via Twitter.On the lawfulness question, Tim Bell, via Twitter.
@murpharoo I've been told that ASIS has power to break the law under some circumstances. What would those be, and who has to authorise it?@murpharoo I've been told that ASIS has power to break the law under some circumstances. What would those be, and who has to authorise it?
Tim is quite correct to say ASIS has wide ranging powers, including immunity if the act is done in the proper performance of a function of the agency.Tim is quite correct to say ASIS has wide ranging powers, including immunity if the act is done in the proper performance of a function of the agency.
But right now, I don’t know if the Australian government through its officials made a payment to people smugglers; I don’t know who made the alleged payment, whether it was ASIS or Defence or Customs; I don’t know whether it was properly authorised – lots of questions. Lots of questions.But right now, I don’t know if the Australian government through its officials made a payment to people smugglers; I don’t know who made the alleged payment, whether it was ASIS or Defence or Customs; I don’t know whether it was properly authorised – lots of questions. Lots of questions.
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Let's try and stick to the actual questionLet's try and stick to the actual question
Back to boats, and sticking with The Australian, Cameron Stewart and Rowan Callick have a story which provides some useful context to the current controversy about the Australian government reportedly paying people smugglers to return asylum seekers to Indonesia. The story outlines in general terms operations by police and Australian intelligence agencies in Indonesia over many years to disrupt people smuggling networks. Someone let it be known to the Daily Telegraph yesterday that ASIS could have been behind the current payment to people smugglers to return the asylum seekers. The inference this morning is this is all business as usual. Both sides of politics do this sort of stuff, stop the inquisition.Back to boats, and sticking with The Australian, Cameron Stewart and Rowan Callick have a story which provides some useful context to the current controversy about the Australian government reportedly paying people smugglers to return asylum seekers to Indonesia. The story outlines in general terms operations by police and Australian intelligence agencies in Indonesia over many years to disrupt people smuggling networks. Someone let it be known to the Daily Telegraph yesterday that ASIS could have been behind the current payment to people smugglers to return the asylum seekers. The inference this morning is this is all business as usual. Both sides of politics do this sort of stuff, stop the inquisition.
Well, maybe it is business as usual, maybe it isn’t. But I’d encourage Politics Live readers to keep a clear head on this issue. The question about this specific incident – paying people smugglers to transport asylum seekers – is quite clear: was this activity lawful?Well, maybe it is business as usual, maybe it isn’t. But I’d encourage Politics Live readers to keep a clear head on this issue. The question about this specific incident – paying people smugglers to transport asylum seekers – is quite clear: was this activity lawful?
Whether you support the government’s asylum policy, or whether you don’t, or whether you don’t care either way, the accountability question remains simple. Is our government acting within the law?Whether you support the government’s asylum policy, or whether you don’t, or whether you don’t care either way, the accountability question remains simple. Is our government acting within the law?
Because I’m dead certain every active citizen in a liberal democracy wants to know the government acts within the law.Because I’m dead certain every active citizen in a liberal democracy wants to know the government acts within the law.
We are in all sorts of bother if we start to assume ends justify means.We are in all sorts of bother if we start to assume ends justify means.
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I’ll come back to boats directly but we do need to transact this morning’s Newspoll. (Do we call this the Galaxy poll now? I’m not sure.)I’ll come back to boats directly but we do need to transact this morning’s Newspoll. (Do we call this the Galaxy poll now? I’m not sure.)
The fortnightly survey published by The Australian this morning has Labor ahead of the government on the two party preferred measure 51% to the Coalition’s 49%. The satisfaction ratings suggest the public has had about a gutful of major party politics right at the moment. The Labor leader Bill Shorten has a satisfaction rating of 28% – which The Australian reports as a “record low”. Tony Abbott’s satisfaction rating also fell four points since the last survey to 34%. The Newspoll has the Greens on 14%.The fortnightly survey published by The Australian this morning has Labor ahead of the government on the two party preferred measure 51% to the Coalition’s 49%. The satisfaction ratings suggest the public has had about a gutful of major party politics right at the moment. The Labor leader Bill Shorten has a satisfaction rating of 28% – which The Australian reports as a “record low”. Tony Abbott’s satisfaction rating also fell four points since the last survey to 34%. The Newspoll has the Greens on 14%.
As my daughter would say, that feedback to the major parties from the voters amounts to mergh.As my daughter would say, that feedback to the major parties from the voters amounts to mergh.
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Key formulations of the moment, ICYM (them)Key formulations of the moment, ICYM (them)
I mentioned in the first post the prime minister has squeezed in an off campus visit to a business in Fyshwick. I suspect the prime minister would like more focus on the budget – the good bits anyway. But most of the questions this morning concerned payments to people smugglers to take asylum seekers back to Indonesia: did the Australian government do this? Was it legal? Why won’t the government give a straight answer to the question?I mentioned in the first post the prime minister has squeezed in an off campus visit to a business in Fyshwick. I suspect the prime minister would like more focus on the budget – the good bits anyway. But most of the questions this morning concerned payments to people smugglers to take asylum seekers back to Indonesia: did the Australian government do this? Was it legal? Why won’t the government give a straight answer to the question?
Tony Abbott just deployed his standard formulation(s) in relation to these questions, which are, variously:Tony Abbott just deployed his standard formulation(s) in relation to these questions, which are, variously:
The prime minister was also asked about the government’s relationship with Indonesia given the escalating war of words. (The Australian foreign minister has sent up a red flare, giving Jakarta some free advice about managing its borders. Overnight Indonesia’s vice-president has said that if Australia “bribed” people smugglers to turn back, it could be considered a party to trafficking.)The prime minister was also asked about the government’s relationship with Indonesia given the escalating war of words. (The Australian foreign minister has sent up a red flare, giving Jakarta some free advice about managing its borders. Overnight Indonesia’s vice-president has said that if Australia “bribed” people smugglers to turn back, it could be considered a party to trafficking.)
The prime minister then said something odd in response to the question. The prime minister noted there were many media outlets more interested in promoting discord than in celebrating all the constructive things that happen between our two countries.The prime minister then said something odd in response to the question. The prime minister noted there were many media outlets more interested in promoting discord than in celebrating all the constructive things that happen between our two countries.
(I thought the discord was being perpetrated by ministers in Canberra and Indonesia and reported by news outlets, rather than news outlets promoting discord. I hope the prime minister didn’t mean The Australian’s interview with the foreign minister Julie Bishop yesterday in which she advised Jakarta to close the border. That wouldn’t be friendly.)(I thought the discord was being perpetrated by ministers in Canberra and Indonesia and reported by news outlets, rather than news outlets promoting discord. I hope the prime minister didn’t mean The Australian’s interview with the foreign minister Julie Bishop yesterday in which she advised Jakarta to close the border. That wouldn’t be friendly.)
Updated at 8.29am AESTUpdated at 8.29am AEST
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Good morning and welcome to Tuesday in Canberra. The forecast today is rain, with rising bluster.Good morning and welcome to Tuesday in Canberra. The forecast today is rain, with rising bluster.
We have several strong news lines in politics this morning (and the prime minister has already been out to inspect a small business in Fyshwick) but we’ll start with the wash-up from last night’s Q&A program last night, where Madam Speaker Bronwyn Bishop advised the president of the Human Rights Commission, Gillian Triggs, to get a (political) job.We have several strong news lines in politics this morning (and the prime minister has already been out to inspect a small business in Fyshwick) but we’ll start with the wash-up from last night’s Q&A program last night, where Madam Speaker Bronwyn Bishop advised the president of the Human Rights Commission, Gillian Triggs, to get a (political) job.
Bronwyn Bishop, to Triggs:Bronwyn Bishop, to Triggs:
You have to make the decision: are you a statutory officer, carrying out an obligation with the protection of that office, or do you wish to be a political participant?You have to make the decision: are you a statutory officer, carrying out an obligation with the protection of that office, or do you wish to be a political participant?
If you do wish to be a political participant, then you have to be no longer a statutory officer and stand for office.If you do wish to be a political participant, then you have to be no longer a statutory officer and stand for office.
There have been so many right left hook combinations landed on Triggs by various government people over the past few months that being told on national television to seek alternative employment seemed more of the same than anything extraordinary, even though it was, of course, extraordinary.There have been so many right left hook combinations landed on Triggs by various government people over the past few months that being told on national television to seek alternative employment seemed more of the same than anything extraordinary, even though it was, of course, extraordinary.
The thematic territory of ‘get a job’ is always somewhat fraught for politicians, as it was for Paul Keating in 1995 ..The thematic territory of ‘get a job’ is always somewhat fraught for politicians, as it was for Paul Keating in 1995 ..
.. and for Joe Hockey recently when he entered the housing affordability debate... and for Joe Hockey recently when he entered the housing affordability debate.
And so it was for Madam Speaker last night on social media, where a bunch of wags lined up to note that a Speaker routinely criticised for excessive partisanship was in no position to lecture others on being partisan.And so it was for Madam Speaker last night on social media, where a bunch of wags lined up to note that a Speaker routinely criticised for excessive partisanship was in no position to lecture others on being partisan.
The speaker of the parliament is a statutory role too, and has a fairly politicised incumbent just at the moment. #qandaThe speaker of the parliament is a statutory role too, and has a fairly politicised incumbent just at the moment. #qanda
Perhaps the most partisan Speaker in memory lectures the Human Rights Commissioner on becoming a political figure. #auspol #qandaPerhaps the most partisan Speaker in memory lectures the Human Rights Commissioner on becoming a political figure. #auspol #qanda
Anyway, apart from the free advice from Madam Speaker, who at times appeared to be presiding over the program, (except, unusually, everyone managed to remain at the table rather than being booted under 94A) – or perhaps, because of the free advice, Q&A last night was what it too rarely is, a fine and informative program. If you were watching Game of Thrones, or Tiny House Hunt, or smashing your favourite box set instead, my colleague Daniel Hurst can bring you up to speed with this news story.Anyway, apart from the free advice from Madam Speaker, who at times appeared to be presiding over the program, (except, unusually, everyone managed to remain at the table rather than being booted under 94A) – or perhaps, because of the free advice, Q&A last night was what it too rarely is, a fine and informative program. If you were watching Game of Thrones, or Tiny House Hunt, or smashing your favourite box set instead, my colleague Daniel Hurst can bring you up to speed with this news story.
Much more to get across so let’s get cracking. You get cracking too. The thread is open for business, and you can find us on the Twits @murpharoo and Mikearoo’s @mpbowersMuch more to get across so let’s get cracking. You get cracking too. The thread is open for business, and you can find us on the Twits @murpharoo and Mikearoo’s @mpbowers
Buckle up. Here comes Tuesday.Buckle up. Here comes Tuesday.