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The Conservatives have promised to cut the number of incapacity benefit claimants in Britain by 200,000.The Conservatives have promised to cut the number of incapacity benefit claimants in Britain by 200,000.
Tory leader David Cameron said too many people were able to work, but did not.Tory leader David Cameron said too many people were able to work, but did not.
The party is pledging to bring in more regular tests for people claiming the benefit - which costs the taxpayer £12.5bn every year.The party is pledging to bring in more regular tests for people claiming the benefit - which costs the taxpayer £12.5bn every year.
Some disability groups have criticised the plans, saying that levels of fraud are low. Labour say the Tories have copied their ideas.Some disability groups have criticised the plans, saying that levels of fraud are low. Labour say the Tories have copied their ideas.
Paid by results
Under the Conservative plans, to be announced in full on Tuesday, all existing and new Incapacity Benefit (IB) claimants would have to attend an "in-depth assessment" to evaluate their needs and capabilities and decide if they are able to work.Under the Conservative plans, to be announced in full on Tuesday, all existing and new Incapacity Benefit (IB) claimants would have to attend an "in-depth assessment" to evaluate their needs and capabilities and decide if they are able to work.
The idea that you can test everybody and unceremoniously dump people onto the Jobseekers Allowance is short-sighted to say the least Sue Christoforou, Mind The Tories have no credible plan to fund an expansion in 'welfare to work' Peter HainWork and Pensions Secretary
Those deemed fit to work would be taken off IB and put onto Jobseekers' Allowance.Those deemed fit to work would be taken off IB and put onto Jobseekers' Allowance.
This would mean a £20-a-week cut in benefits and a requirement to seek work immediately.This would mean a £20-a-week cut in benefits and a requirement to seek work immediately.
The Tories are promising that those who have the "potential" to be able to work would be referred to specialised welfare-to-work providers who would help them prepare them for jobs and would be paid by results.The Tories are promising that those who have the "potential" to be able to work would be referred to specialised welfare-to-work providers who would help them prepare them for jobs and would be paid by results.
People with permanent disabilities which make it impossible to work would continue to receive "unconditional" support, but those with non-permanent conditions would be subject to regular checks.People with permanent disabilities which make it impossible to work would continue to receive "unconditional" support, but those with non-permanent conditions would be subject to regular checks.
Writing in the News of the World, Mr Cameron said he was particularly shocked by the rising number of younger IB claimants.Writing in the News of the World, Mr Cameron said he was particularly shocked by the rising number of younger IB claimants.
'Culture of despair'
An estimated 500,000 people are now claiming IB, while claims from under-25s have risen by more than half over the last 10 years.An estimated 500,000 people are now claiming IB, while claims from under-25s have risen by more than half over the last 10 years.
INCAPACITY FIGURES 2.64m people claim IBIt costs the country £12.65bn every yearMore than half of IB claimants have been on benefit for 5 years or moreThe number of young people claiming IB is up by a halfINCAPACITY FIGURES 2.64m people claim IBIt costs the country £12.65bn every yearMore than half of IB claimants have been on benefit for 5 years or moreThe number of young people claiming IB is up by a half
Mr Cameron said: "I don't believe that there are nearly half a million young people in Britain with a disability which prevents them from doing any work at all.Mr Cameron said: "I don't believe that there are nearly half a million young people in Britain with a disability which prevents them from doing any work at all.
"What we have is a culture of despair, where kids grow up without any idea that for our society to function everyone has to pull their weight if they can.""What we have is a culture of despair, where kids grow up without any idea that for our society to function everyone has to pull their weight if they can."
Speaking on the BBC's Sunday AM show the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, said: government's own proposals were "far more revolutionary" than those put forward by the Conservatives.
He said: "Today the issue is people don't have the skills, even when there are 600,000 vacancies in the economy."
Mr Brown also said: "The next stage is not what the Conservatives are talking about but giving people the skills to get into work."
Work and Pensions Secretary Peter Hain accused the Tories of copying the government's ideas.
He said: "They are plagiarising plans already announced by us before Christmas and seeking to present them as their own.
"The Tories have no credible plan to fund an expansion in 'welfare to work'.
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The Conservatives are the latest party to focus on the large number of IB claimants, estimated to have nearly quadrupled since the 1970's.The Conservatives are the latest party to focus on the large number of IB claimants, estimated to have nearly quadrupled since the 1970's.
The idea that you can test everybody and unceremoniously dump people onto the Jobseekers Allowance is short-sighted to say the least Sue Christoforou, Mind
The figure has fallen slightly over recent years to about 2.6m people - but experts are still puzzled at the overall trend, given the UK's rising health and living standards.The figure has fallen slightly over recent years to about 2.6m people - but experts are still puzzled at the overall trend, given the UK's rising health and living standards.
There have also been a number of high-profile cases of apparently healthy people fraudulently claiming the benefit, while secretly holding down physically demanding jobs.There have also been a number of high-profile cases of apparently healthy people fraudulently claiming the benefit, while secretly holding down physically demanding jobs.
The government has already pledged to introduce tougher tests for those claiming IB from this autumn. It says it expects to cut the number of claimants by 20,000 each year.The government has already pledged to introduce tougher tests for those claiming IB from this autumn. It says it expects to cut the number of claimants by 20,000 each year.
But the tests will initially apply only to new claimants, while the Conservatives say they are determined to make all claimants - including existing ones - prove they qualify for the £81-a-week benefit.But the tests will initially apply only to new claimants, while the Conservatives say they are determined to make all claimants - including existing ones - prove they qualify for the £81-a-week benefit.
Black hole
Work and Pensions Secretary Peter Hain accused the Tories of copying the government's ideas.
He said: "They are plagiarising plans already announced by us before Christmas and seeking to present them as their own.
"The Tories have no credible plan to fund an expansion in 'welfare to work'. Far from achieving the massive savings the Tories need to fund their tax changes, these plans require significant investment in the short term which leaves them with a black hole in their spending plans."
Speaking on the BBC's Sunday AM show the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, said: government's own proposals were "far more revolutionary" than those put forward by the Conservatives.
He said: "Today the issue is people don't have the skills, even when there are 600,000 vacancies in the economy."
Mr Brown also said: "The next stage is not what the Conservatives are talking about but giving people the skills to get into work."
About 40% of those claiming IB do so for mental health reasons.About 40% of those claiming IB do so for mental health reasons.
Sue Christoforou of the mental health charity Mind told the BBC: "The idea that you can test everybody and unceremoniously dump people onto the Jobseekers Allowance is short sighted to say the least.Sue Christoforou of the mental health charity Mind told the BBC: "The idea that you can test everybody and unceremoniously dump people onto the Jobseekers Allowance is short sighted to say the least.
"What is needed is support that will help people return to the workplace.""What is needed is support that will help people return to the workplace."
Slag heap
She said existing claimants already faced a continuing assessment of their right to receive the benefit and that the fraud rate - which she estimated was 0.5% of all IB claims - was very low.She said existing claimants already faced a continuing assessment of their right to receive the benefit and that the fraud rate - which she estimated was 0.5% of all IB claims - was very low.
"The test [for IB] that is operated in this country is known to be the most stringent in the world, so it is unlikely that there are a large number of people swinging the lead," she said.
Labour MP Frank Field, a former welfare reform minister, said he was pleased the Conservatives were addressing the issue.Labour MP Frank Field, a former welfare reform minister, said he was pleased the Conservatives were addressing the issue.
"Many people are just in effect thrown on the slag heap and to help them back into work would massively increase their own happiness, but... the government - whether it intended it or not - is now growing the economy by the importation of labour and most new jobs now go to immigrants. "Many people are just in effect thrown on the slag heap and to help them back into work would massively increase their own happiness, but... the government - whether it intended it or not - is now growing the economy by the importation of labour and most new jobs now go to immigrants," he said.
"If we are to reverse that trend it's crucial that this huge reserve army of people who could be working, should work," Mr Field said.