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| Should all English cities be more like Manchester? | Should all English cities be more like Manchester? |
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| George Osborne has announced moves to make Greater Manchester a "northern powerhouse". How have efforts to empower the region worked so far, what new powers will it get, and should other cities follow suit? | George Osborne has announced moves to make Greater Manchester a "northern powerhouse". How have efforts to empower the region worked so far, what new powers will it get, and should other cities follow suit? |
| The chancellor said Greater Manchester will have the first metro-wide elected mayor outside London to oversee policies such as transport, social care and housing as well as police budgets. | The chancellor said Greater Manchester will have the first metro-wide elected mayor outside London to oversee policies such as transport, social care and housing as well as police budgets. |
| He said the move had been agreed with leaders of the region's 10 councils and he will talk to other cities "keen to follow Manchester's lead". | |
| The city of Manchester had a population of 514,000 in 2013, but the broader area is home to 2.7 million people, according to Nomis. | The city of Manchester had a population of 514,000 in 2013, but the broader area is home to 2.7 million people, according to Nomis. |
| It already has more powers than many other English cities. In 2011, Manchester City Council teamed up with nine neighbouring councils to form the Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA). | It already has more powers than many other English cities. In 2011, Manchester City Council teamed up with nine neighbouring councils to form the Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA). |
| The GMCA was the country's first statutory "super-council" with power to co-ordinate the region's regeneration, economy and transport priorities. | The GMCA was the country's first statutory "super-council" with power to co-ordinate the region's regeneration, economy and transport priorities. |
| The chancellor's announcement follows several reports that have called for more responsibilities to be handed to Greater Manchester. | The chancellor's announcement follows several reports that have called for more responsibilities to be handed to Greater Manchester. |
| Right-leaning think tank ResPublica recently recommended Manchester should "lead the way" on devolution for cities, with an elected assembly, a mayor, income-tax raising powers and complete control of spending within five years. | Right-leaning think tank ResPublica recently recommended Manchester should "lead the way" on devolution for cities, with an elected assembly, a mayor, income-tax raising powers and complete control of spending within five years. |
| The RSA City Growth Commission published a report in October that recommended allowing UK cities to make their own decisions on tax and spending as a way of reducing the Treasury's deficit, of which it estimates £4-5bn relates to spending in Greater Manchester alone. | The RSA City Growth Commission published a report in October that recommended allowing UK cities to make their own decisions on tax and spending as a way of reducing the Treasury's deficit, of which it estimates £4-5bn relates to spending in Greater Manchester alone. |
| Greater Manchester | Greater Manchester |
| Before the chancellor's announcement was made, the prevailing attitude to devolution on the streets of Manchester on a weekday in October seemed to be: "Why not?" | Before the chancellor's announcement was made, the prevailing attitude to devolution on the streets of Manchester on a weekday in October seemed to be: "Why not?" |
| Sitting by the war memorial near the Central Library, Abi Mather, 21, says: "People from Manchester love being from Manchester, we take it very seriously. We always know best - why shouldn't that also apply to what money goes where?" | Sitting by the war memorial near the Central Library, Abi Mather, 21, says: "People from Manchester love being from Manchester, we take it very seriously. We always know best - why shouldn't that also apply to what money goes where?" |
| The money generated by Manchester is not insignificant. The ONS reports that Greater Manchester added nearly £51bn gross value (GVA) to the economy in 2012. | The money generated by Manchester is not insignificant. The ONS reports that Greater Manchester added nearly £51bn gross value (GVA) to the economy in 2012. |
| By comparison, the whole of the West Midlands produced £49bn and Merseyside generated £25bn in the same year. | By comparison, the whole of the West Midlands produced £49bn and Merseyside generated £25bn in the same year. |
| Elaine Smith, 51, agrees that the city can stand on its own feet. "Manchester is on the up - when you look at what's on offer in terms of shopping, transport to get around, the football," she says. | Elaine Smith, 51, agrees that the city can stand on its own feet. "Manchester is on the up - when you look at what's on offer in terms of shopping, transport to get around, the football," she says. |
| "Maybe southerners think we come second behind London - but people here don't feel that way, so it'd be better if we had as many powers as London." | "Maybe southerners think we come second behind London - but people here don't feel that way, so it'd be better if we had as many powers as London." |
| At the same time, there are those who give the whole idea short shrift. | At the same time, there are those who give the whole idea short shrift. |
| Tony Richards, 43, a photographer at Manchester Central Library, says: "It all sounds good, but when it comes down to it they always waste money left right and centre on crazy initiatives - it doesn't matter who's doing it." | Tony Richards, 43, a photographer at Manchester Central Library, says: "It all sounds good, but when it comes down to it they always waste money left right and centre on crazy initiatives - it doesn't matter who's doing it." |
| Maz Ali, a 28-year-old dentist, is also sceptical. "I don't see the need for it to be here. It wouldn't change anything," she says. | Maz Ali, a 28-year-old dentist, is also sceptical. "I don't see the need for it to be here. It wouldn't change anything," she says. |
| 'No impact' | 'No impact' |
| Not that many people seem to be aware of how the GMCA works currently. In an unscientific survey of 20 people on the city's streets, just three said they had heard of it. | Not that many people seem to be aware of how the GMCA works currently. In an unscientific survey of 20 people on the city's streets, just three said they had heard of it. |
| So far, the authority has focused its efforts on regenerating large areas such as Salford Quays and building a tram system that links Manchester to Salford, Eccles, Altrincham, Bury, Rochdale and Ashton-under-Lyne. | So far, the authority has focused its efforts on regenerating large areas such as Salford Quays and building a tram system that links Manchester to Salford, Eccles, Altrincham, Bury, Rochdale and Ashton-under-Lyne. |
| Some who have heard of the GMCA struggle to point to any difference it has made. | Some who have heard of the GMCA struggle to point to any difference it has made. |
| Phil Littlewood, 61, a semi-retired IT professional, says he doesn't think it's had any impact on his life. "Maybe it needs more time?" he suggests. | Phil Littlewood, 61, a semi-retired IT professional, says he doesn't think it's had any impact on his life. "Maybe it needs more time?" he suggests. |
| He likes the idea of local bodies having more control over their own budgets though, saying spending priorities should include funding for museums and improving the transport system. | He likes the idea of local bodies having more control over their own budgets though, saying spending priorities should include funding for museums and improving the transport system. |
| Others - although unaware of the GMCA - nevertheless name-check its projects as things to admire about Manchester. | Others - although unaware of the GMCA - nevertheless name-check its projects as things to admire about Manchester. |
| Margaret Walker, 75, says she finds the tram "very convenient", and Roma Swords, 21, says she loves the "city vibe" of the bars and shops in the northern quarter. | Margaret Walker, 75, says she finds the tram "very convenient", and Roma Swords, 21, says she loves the "city vibe" of the bars and shops in the northern quarter. |
| Of plans for a new mayor, Margaret likes the idea of "somebody that you knew was there and could write to if you wanted to". "Isn't Alex Ferguson looking for a job?" suggests Tony Nuttall. | Of plans for a new mayor, Margaret likes the idea of "somebody that you knew was there and could write to if you wanted to". "Isn't Alex Ferguson looking for a job?" suggests Tony Nuttall. |
| Colin Talbot, professor of government at Manchester University, says the GMCA has a "mixed record". | Colin Talbot, professor of government at Manchester University, says the GMCA has a "mixed record". |
| The authority's attempt to set up a congestion charge "went down like a tonne of bricks", he says, but it can be proud of the "vast improvement" offered by the tram and new recycling facilities. | The authority's attempt to set up a congestion charge "went down like a tonne of bricks", he says, but it can be proud of the "vast improvement" offered by the tram and new recycling facilities. |
| 'Massive imbalance' | 'Massive imbalance' |
| He believes Manchester is a "good example of what you can do without electing a whole new set of politicians" and that "groups of different political persuasions work very well together". | He believes Manchester is a "good example of what you can do without electing a whole new set of politicians" and that "groups of different political persuasions work very well together". |
| That is something other areas should strive for, he argues, but in his view "the current discussion about devolution does not go far enough" and benefits payments and tax collection could be carried out locally. | That is something other areas should strive for, he argues, but in his view "the current discussion about devolution does not go far enough" and benefits payments and tax collection could be carried out locally. |
| Dr Stuart Wilks-Heeg, a politics expert from Liverpool University, also backs the idea of raising more revenue locally, but cautions that further devolution could get complicated. | Dr Stuart Wilks-Heeg, a politics expert from Liverpool University, also backs the idea of raising more revenue locally, but cautions that further devolution could get complicated. |
| "If you allow Manchester to collect stamp duty and capital gains tax, the case for allowing London to do it is irrefutable, which would create massive imbalance," he says. | "If you allow Manchester to collect stamp duty and capital gains tax, the case for allowing London to do it is irrefutable, which would create massive imbalance," he says. |
| "If you think the Barnett formula is a minefield, this would be a complete nightmare," he says. | "If you think the Barnett formula is a minefield, this would be a complete nightmare," he says. |
| As for whether other cities and regions should follow suit, he points out that the establishment of a similar combined authority on Merseyside "has not exactly gone smoothly". | As for whether other cities and regions should follow suit, he points out that the establishment of a similar combined authority on Merseyside "has not exactly gone smoothly". |
| "Each area has its peculiarities and it's important that we don't get a top-down approach," he says. | "Each area has its peculiarities and it's important that we don't get a top-down approach," he says. |
| Prof Talbot foresees problems with the government's latest plans, pointing out that a North East assembly was rejected in 2004, and Manchester was one of 10 cities to vote "no" to the offer of an elected mayor in 2012. | Prof Talbot foresees problems with the government's latest plans, pointing out that a North East assembly was rejected in 2004, and Manchester was one of 10 cities to vote "no" to the offer of an elected mayor in 2012. |
| He warns that Monday's announcement could be seen as an "imposition". | He warns that Monday's announcement could be seen as an "imposition". |
| "Unless this is done through political consensus it could lead to even more instability in our system of local government, which we've had for nearly 40 years now with almost constant reorganisations," he says. | "Unless this is done through political consensus it could lead to even more instability in our system of local government, which we've had for nearly 40 years now with almost constant reorganisations," he says. |
| Whatever model of devolution English cities follow, it seems Manchester is first in line. | Whatever model of devolution English cities follow, it seems Manchester is first in line. |