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Terror accused 'praised jihadist battles in Syria and Iraq' | |
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The trial of a man accused of planning to target Tony Blair or carry out a Mumbai-style terror attack has heard secret recordings of him praising jihadist battles in Syria and Iraq. | The trial of a man accused of planning to target Tony Blair or carry out a Mumbai-style terror attack has heard secret recordings of him praising jihadist battles in Syria and Iraq. |
Erol Incedal, from London, was recorded saying he hated white people and wanted to do "a drive-by". | Erol Incedal, from London, was recorded saying he hated white people and wanted to do "a drive-by". |
The Old Bailey heard lengthy recordings made by police after they bugged his car in September last year. | |
Mr Incedal, 26, who is being tried partly in secret, denies all charges. | Mr Incedal, 26, who is being tried partly in secret, denies all charges. |
The recordings were played in court, with many difficult to clearly hear. | |
In one video, Mr Incedal sings about killing Shia Muslims by cutting their throats. | In one video, Mr Incedal sings about killing Shia Muslims by cutting their throats. |
In another, Mr Incedal and two others, who were watching or listening to accounts from fighters in Syria and elsewhere, are heard laughing and commenting on the deaths of enemies of al-Qaeda or Islamic State fighters. | In another, Mr Incedal and two others, who were watching or listening to accounts from fighters in Syria and elsewhere, are heard laughing and commenting on the deaths of enemies of al-Qaeda or Islamic State fighters. |
'Jihadi videos' | |
At one point, Mr Incedal comments to another man, Mounir Rarmoul-Bouhadjar, about the types of weapons being fired, adding the incomplete phrase "we used that". | At one point, Mr Incedal comments to another man, Mounir Rarmoul-Bouhadjar, about the types of weapons being fired, adding the incomplete phrase "we used that". |
The jury were told that one video, called Dola, related to al-Qaeda in Iraq. | The jury were told that one video, called Dola, related to al-Qaeda in Iraq. |
"I've watched so many different like jihadi people's videos and it doesn't do nothing to me," says Mr Incedal on the tape. | "I've watched so many different like jihadi people's videos and it doesn't do nothing to me," says Mr Incedal on the tape. |
"But the Dola ones, it just puts this thing in your head that you just want to do drive-by." | "But the Dola ones, it just puts this thing in your head that you just want to do drive-by." |
Mr Incedal and his companion are then heard laughing. | |
"They do it a lot bruv," says Mr Incedal. "And they've got this special like machine uzi gun like and silence on it - it's nuts." | "They do it a lot bruv," says Mr Incedal. "And they've got this special like machine uzi gun like and silence on it - it's nuts." |
The jury was told on Tuesday that Rarmoul-Bouhadjar had pleaded guilty to possessing bomb-making plans. | |
Mr Incedal denies the same charge. He also denies preparing for acts of terrorism. | |
Earlier on Wednesday the court was told that Mr Incedal's home was searched after he was arrested on 13 October last year in central London. | |
During the search of the property in south-east London, officers found a document referring to a "Plan A" on top of a wardrobe in a bedroom. | |
'Coded messages' | |
It listed "three to four workers, two tennis racquets, one month's surveillance, rent nearby flat, transport, assess security, assess risk, legitimacy, action etc", prosecutor Richard Whittam QC said. | |
Mr Incedal's wife Kadeejah Baluch and four children were at the property, prosecutors said. Three were his own children, aged six, four and 11 months, they added. | |
The court heard Mrs Baluch confirmed she was married to Mr Incedal, and said: "He normally lives here but not for the last four days." | |
Police also searched a second property near Paddington, which Mr Incedal failed to disclose, jurors were told. | |
Officers found signs a number of people lived there, including three pairs of shoes, three beds, condoms and various DVDs, the court heard. | |
They also found a laptop in a drawer in the bedroom, which prosecutors say contained coded messages referring to a "Mumbai-style" attack and Kalashnikov rifles. | |
'Destroy everything' | 'Destroy everything' |
In the recordings, Mr Incedal is heard arguing and complaining to his wife about how he was stopped and held for a few hours while the police examined his car. | |
He tells his wife: "I hate white people so much… we might have to destroy everything, and do something else, Plan B. | He tells his wife: "I hate white people so much… we might have to destroy everything, and do something else, Plan B. |
"These pigs, I just feel like running them over. Talking about the police." | "These pigs, I just feel like running them over. Talking about the police." |
The court was told on Tuesday that prosecutors believe he was planning either an attack similar to the one in 2008 in Mumbai, which left 174 dead, or to target a prominent figure. An address belonging to former Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife Cherie were among items recovered from his car, jurors heard. | |
The prosecution has said he had no settled plan. | |
Secret sessions | |
Jurors were told on Monday that parts of the trial would never become public. | Jurors were told on Monday that parts of the trial would never become public. |
Some sessions, such as one being held on Wednesday afternoon, will only be open to a limited number of journalists. They will not be able to report what is said. | Some sessions, such as one being held on Wednesday afternoon, will only be open to a limited number of journalists. They will not be able to report what is said. |
A third part of the trial will see even these accredited journalists excluded from hearing the evidence. | A third part of the trial will see even these accredited journalists excluded from hearing the evidence. |
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