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| Nude photographs of the Dinka: art or exploitation? | Nude photographs of the Dinka: art or exploitation? |
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| A series of photographs of the Dinka people in South Sudan has been widely published recently, with the images available to buy online for around $600 each. While some of them are stunning, they raise questions for me about consent and representation. | A series of photographs of the Dinka people in South Sudan has been widely published recently, with the images available to buy online for around $600 each. While some of them are stunning, they raise questions for me about consent and representation. |
| My first thought on seeing Carol Beckwith and Angela Fisher's work was whether the pair would get away with photographing nude westerners and selling their photos online? | My first thought on seeing Carol Beckwith and Angela Fisher's work was whether the pair would get away with photographing nude westerners and selling their photos online? |
| I wonder whether the photographers told their subjects that their images would be published, and sold, and in what form. I am also concerned that the “subjects”, the Dinka tribe in this instance, do not share in the profits. Would they give permission if they knew what would become of their photos? | I wonder whether the photographers told their subjects that their images would be published, and sold, and in what form. I am also concerned that the “subjects”, the Dinka tribe in this instance, do not share in the profits. Would they give permission if they knew what would become of their photos? |
| I asked my colleagues at Africa on the Blog what they thought. Here are some of their responses: | I asked my colleagues at Africa on the Blog what they thought. Here are some of their responses: |
| Freda Muyambo | Freda Muyambo |
| Consider Rihanna’s recent parade in a see-through dress that was censored in mainstream media around the world. Even Instagram, Facebook and Google have removed all traces of it. If that is so, how is it acceptable that this site, in the name of the “artistic photography of tribal people”, is publishing these images – including ones of naked children. | Consider Rihanna’s recent parade in a see-through dress that was censored in mainstream media around the world. Even Instagram, Facebook and Google have removed all traces of it. If that is so, how is it acceptable that this site, in the name of the “artistic photography of tribal people”, is publishing these images – including ones of naked children. |
| If I went to the “natural habitat” of Londoners at play in the Princess Diana memorial fountains in Hyde Park, where naked toddlers play freely in the water, and took out my camera to snap images of those naked white kids (we are usually the only black people there), I could be convicted of a criminal offence – regardless of what my intentions were. | If I went to the “natural habitat” of Londoners at play in the Princess Diana memorial fountains in Hyde Park, where naked toddlers play freely in the water, and took out my camera to snap images of those naked white kids (we are usually the only black people there), I could be convicted of a criminal offence – regardless of what my intentions were. |
| My only conclusion is that “tribal people” are still a little less human than others. | My only conclusion is that “tribal people” are still a little less human than others. |
| Chris Ejugbo | Chris Ejugbo |
| To me, these photos are beautiful works of art. They weren't the work of accidental passers-by. The participants seem to have been prepared and posed for the camera. There are societies in Africa where nudity is the norm and not really frowned upon. It’s not for lack of clothes. There are many villages in Nigeria where this is common. There are many people in the west who would like to go naked if the law permitted it. There are famous African festivals where all the locals go naked. | To me, these photos are beautiful works of art. They weren't the work of accidental passers-by. The participants seem to have been prepared and posed for the camera. There are societies in Africa where nudity is the norm and not really frowned upon. It’s not for lack of clothes. There are many villages in Nigeria where this is common. There are many people in the west who would like to go naked if the law permitted it. There are famous African festivals where all the locals go naked. |
| I am a bit concerned, though, about using children in this way. It doesn’t look ethical. The rules for taking pictures have to be clarified. Two years ago, I was arrested in Lagos for taking pictures of buildings and roads. For the building, they accused me of spying and trying to copy the design of the building. For the road, I was accused of trying to disgrace the country online as the road had potholes. | I am a bit concerned, though, about using children in this way. It doesn’t look ethical. The rules for taking pictures have to be clarified. Two years ago, I was arrested in Lagos for taking pictures of buildings and roads. For the building, they accused me of spying and trying to copy the design of the building. For the road, I was accused of trying to disgrace the country online as the road had potholes. |
| Freda Muyambo | Freda Muyambo |
| Interesting. Nudity is common on the beaches of the French Riviera but I doubt anyone would give consent to having their photo taken if asked. Would you share these photos on Facebook? | Interesting. Nudity is common on the beaches of the French Riviera but I doubt anyone would give consent to having their photo taken if asked. Would you share these photos on Facebook? |
| Chris Ejugbo | Chris Ejugbo |
| It's all about whether consent had been given – unless it is a public display where everyone is welcome. If a group of nudists decided to have a public parade in central London, I am sure there would be no offence in taking their pictures and posting on Facebook. That’s the publicity they were looking for. Beaches, swimming pools, saunas are not considered public places. | It's all about whether consent had been given – unless it is a public display where everyone is welcome. If a group of nudists decided to have a public parade in central London, I am sure there would be no offence in taking their pictures and posting on Facebook. That’s the publicity they were looking for. Beaches, swimming pools, saunas are not considered public places. |
| Freda Muyambo | Freda Muyambo |
| But are these people looking for publicity? Nudists in a public parade have a clear agenda. | But are these people looking for publicity? Nudists in a public parade have a clear agenda. |
| Doreen Gaura | Doreen Gaura |
| I think we must be careful not to conflate a western context and a southern context. I do not view these images as pornographic (not most of them anyway). | I think we must be careful not to conflate a western context and a southern context. I do not view these images as pornographic (not most of them anyway). |
| I am more inclined to feel that they eroticise and dehumanise the Dinka by presenting them as objects rather than subjects, in the portrayal as well as the fact that it is other people who stand to gain from the commodification of their lives and identity. That for me is the greater concern, not whether or not they are clothed or naked. I think what is for sale here is not necessarily or exclusively their naked bodies but their entire being and way of life which is reduced to "otherness". | I am more inclined to feel that they eroticise and dehumanise the Dinka by presenting them as objects rather than subjects, in the portrayal as well as the fact that it is other people who stand to gain from the commodification of their lives and identity. That for me is the greater concern, not whether or not they are clothed or naked. I think what is for sale here is not necessarily or exclusively their naked bodies but their entire being and way of life which is reduced to "otherness". |
| Also, the issue around permission is not as simple as a yay or nay. We should also ask whether or not the Dinka understand exactly what they might be giving consent to (and the implications thereof) and more importantly, whether or not they care. | Also, the issue around permission is not as simple as a yay or nay. We should also ask whether or not the Dinka understand exactly what they might be giving consent to (and the implications thereof) and more importantly, whether or not they care. |
| As for the children, I don't think their images should not have been published at all. Although South Sudan is one of the few countries on the continent that has not signed and ratified the African Charter on the Rights and Welfare of the Child or the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which both condemn the commercial sexual exploitation of children, the photographers come from a country that has signed and ratified the latter and therefore should abide by the laws therein. It is both illegal and unethical to use naked images of minors. | As for the children, I don't think their images should not have been published at all. Although South Sudan is one of the few countries on the continent that has not signed and ratified the African Charter on the Rights and Welfare of the Child or the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which both condemn the commercial sexual exploitation of children, the photographers come from a country that has signed and ratified the latter and therefore should abide by the laws therein. It is both illegal and unethical to use naked images of minors. |
| They are profiting from these images and the fact remains they can’t really control how people are going to engage with these images and therefore they are open to sexually gratuitous use by sex offenders in the world. | They are profiting from these images and the fact remains they can’t really control how people are going to engage with these images and therefore they are open to sexually gratuitous use by sex offenders in the world. |
| Mary Akangbe | Mary Akangbe |
| What was the motive and purpose of these pictures? Some seem to have been photoshopped. Was there informed consent and understanding of how they were going to be used. What about the proceeds? The young girl by the fire’s portrait, I am sure will fetch a fair bit because she is a true and natural model. Was she made aware of her potential? Has she seen her pictures? | What was the motive and purpose of these pictures? Some seem to have been photoshopped. Was there informed consent and understanding of how they were going to be used. What about the proceeds? The young girl by the fire’s portrait, I am sure will fetch a fair bit because she is a true and natural model. Was she made aware of her potential? Has she seen her pictures? |
| Ossob Mohamud | Ossob Mohamud |
| I can't deny these photos are beautiful, and they draw me in. But it seems they are there for rapacious consumption and not really for the ostensible reason of "learning about the Dinka". Images like these just deepen the misunderstanding and "otherness"' of people who don't live in our "developed" and privileged context. | I can't deny these photos are beautiful, and they draw me in. But it seems they are there for rapacious consumption and not really for the ostensible reason of "learning about the Dinka". Images like these just deepen the misunderstanding and "otherness"' of people who don't live in our "developed" and privileged context. |
| Frankly I'm tired of western photographers embedding themselves in "tribes" and showing us pictures of exotic peoples living in their natural habitat. You can't help feeling that this could easily have been about wildlife. | Frankly I'm tired of western photographers embedding themselves in "tribes" and showing us pictures of exotic peoples living in their natural habitat. You can't help feeling that this could easily have been about wildlife. |
| It raises the question of who has the power to represent whom, and to whom, for what purpose? Why do we still attach some mystery, strangeness, and other-worldliness to people who are not white and who don't live according to our modernised lifestyles? | It raises the question of who has the power to represent whom, and to whom, for what purpose? Why do we still attach some mystery, strangeness, and other-worldliness to people who are not white and who don't live according to our modernised lifestyles? |
| Compare this to another form of representation of people. Humans of New York (Hony) is a immensely popular cataloging of strangers in New York City. The photographer takes photos of people with quotes and stories about their lives. I love Hony because the stories behind these people are always touching. What is the difference between Hony and the photos of the Dinka? The people are humanised, learn something about them. The viewers relate to them, whether they're black/white/Latino/Asian/Muslim whatever. | Compare this to another form of representation of people. Humans of New York (Hony) is a immensely popular cataloging of strangers in New York City. The photographer takes photos of people with quotes and stories about their lives. I love Hony because the stories behind these people are always touching. What is the difference between Hony and the photos of the Dinka? The people are humanised, learn something about them. The viewers relate to them, whether they're black/white/Latino/Asian/Muslim whatever. |
| Here's another example of photography that humanises its subjects, in this case drug addicts. Sadly both these examples are set in the west, making me wonder whether there are any photographers who depict non-westerners as people and not the indistinguishable wildlife/scenery/Africans images that are so prevalent. | Here's another example of photography that humanises its subjects, in this case drug addicts. Sadly both these examples are set in the west, making me wonder whether there are any photographers who depict non-westerners as people and not the indistinguishable wildlife/scenery/Africans images that are so prevalent. |
| Chris Ejugbo | Chris Ejugbo |
| We seem to feel uncomfortable when African lifestyles are exoticised. We seem to get worried that Africans are being seen as "other". My feeling is that many Africans are ashamed of being different. We are just fighting to fit in to what we have been indoctrinated to believe is "the acceptable" way. We appreciate what we have as beautiful and extraordinary and saleable, and then get angry when a westerner finds them to be so and worth telling the world about. Having lived in the west for more than two decades, there are so many things I find exotic when I go home that the ordinary folk do not appreciate much. I find myself reaching for my camera all the time, whether it's the green or red head lizards, the colourful birds, the red earth, the traditional dresses, the masquerades, festivals. and so on. My brothers find it strange. | We seem to feel uncomfortable when African lifestyles are exoticised. We seem to get worried that Africans are being seen as "other". My feeling is that many Africans are ashamed of being different. We are just fighting to fit in to what we have been indoctrinated to believe is "the acceptable" way. We appreciate what we have as beautiful and extraordinary and saleable, and then get angry when a westerner finds them to be so and worth telling the world about. Having lived in the west for more than two decades, there are so many things I find exotic when I go home that the ordinary folk do not appreciate much. I find myself reaching for my camera all the time, whether it's the green or red head lizards, the colourful birds, the red earth, the traditional dresses, the masquerades, festivals. and so on. My brothers find it strange. |
| Perhaps because we are shy to take the initiative to tell these stories exactly the way we want them told, others have no option to tell these stories for us. I have read Binyavanga Wainaina's satirical piece on How To write About Africa, and I agree with most of it. And no, I am not happy that the story of the Dinka and other African natives are told with them mute. But have we tried to do it differently? Why do we then get angry when foreigners tell these stories? | Perhaps because we are shy to take the initiative to tell these stories exactly the way we want them told, others have no option to tell these stories for us. I have read Binyavanga Wainaina's satirical piece on How To write About Africa, and I agree with most of it. And no, I am not happy that the story of the Dinka and other African natives are told with them mute. But have we tried to do it differently? Why do we then get angry when foreigners tell these stories? |
| Mark Mwangi | Mark Mwangi |
| I agree with Christopher here. We don't want our story told and we don't want to tell it. Personally I am not offended by these photos and quite frankly I am more comfortable with nudity than with violence. Somehow we demonise the naked human form yet celebrate its destruction, as can be seen in popular media where decapitation is more palatable than full frontal nudity. | I agree with Christopher here. We don't want our story told and we don't want to tell it. Personally I am not offended by these photos and quite frankly I am more comfortable with nudity than with violence. Somehow we demonise the naked human form yet celebrate its destruction, as can be seen in popular media where decapitation is more palatable than full frontal nudity. |
| There are many communities that are not ashamed of nudity and you will find a whole family taking a bath at a river. The context is what matters. If we had an example of what we would consider a tasteful photo-shoot with the same or similar subjects done by an African photographer then we could compare and decide what is "othering" and what isn't. An African photographer might ask their names and a little about their lives. That would make them more human than using them as nameless features of South Sudan. | There are many communities that are not ashamed of nudity and you will find a whole family taking a bath at a river. The context is what matters. If we had an example of what we would consider a tasteful photo-shoot with the same or similar subjects done by an African photographer then we could compare and decide what is "othering" and what isn't. An African photographer might ask their names and a little about their lives. That would make them more human than using them as nameless features of South Sudan. |
| Carol Beckwith and Angela Fisher's agent said the pair are on "an expedition" and not available to comment on this discussion. | |
| 10am update: Carol Beckwith emailed from the DRC with the following response: | |
| Carol Beckwith | |
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