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MPs voted unanimously – by 304 votes– in favour of a parliamentary bill that would pave the way for a referendum on Britain's EU membership by 2017 after the vast majority of Labour and Liberal Democrat MPs boycotted the debate. | MPs voted unanimously – by 304 votes– in favour of a parliamentary bill that would pave the way for a referendum on Britain's EU membership by 2017 after the vast majority of Labour and Liberal Democrat MPs boycotted the debate. |
William Hague, the foreign secretary, accused Labour of lacking courage after Ed Miliband did not take part in the debate and advised his MPs to abstain in the vote. | William Hague, the foreign secretary, accused Labour of lacking courage after Ed Miliband did not take part in the debate and advised his MPs to abstain in the vote. |
The Labour and Lib Dem decision meant that the private member's bill, promoted by the Tory backbencher James Wharton, won the rare distinction of winning a second reading with unanimous support. The vote was triggered after Peter Luff and Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, two Tory MPs who support the bill, agreed to act as tellers for the no votes. | The Labour and Lib Dem decision meant that the private member's bill, promoted by the Tory backbencher James Wharton, won the rare distinction of winning a second reading with unanimous support. The vote was triggered after Peter Luff and Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, two Tory MPs who support the bill, agreed to act as tellers for the no votes. |
The number of votes in favour of the bill – 304 – exactly matches the number of Conservative MPs who faced a three-line whip to support the bill. But not every Tory voted in favour of the bill. The numbers were boosted by a handful of Labour supporters of a referendum. | The number of votes in favour of the bill – 304 – exactly matches the number of Conservative MPs who faced a three-line whip to support the bill. But not every Tory voted in favour of the bill. The numbers were boosted by a handful of Labour supporters of a referendum. |
Hague was scathing about the Labour leadership. He told the BBC: "They didn't have the courage to vote for or against it and that suggests that at later stages, they will try to block this in various ways. But it's a good start to the bill. It reinforces our commitment to a referendum by the end of 2017, in or out of a reformed European Union and that's what we thought was the right choice to [give] to the people of this country." | Hague was scathing about the Labour leadership. He told the BBC: "They didn't have the courage to vote for or against it and that suggests that at later stages, they will try to block this in various ways. But it's a good start to the bill. It reinforces our commitment to a referendum by the end of 2017, in or out of a reformed European Union and that's what we thought was the right choice to [give] to the people of this country." |
Hague spoke out after the Labour party left open the possibility of agreeing to a referendum on Britain's European Union membership. As Tory MPs packed the House of Commons to debate the bill, the shadow foreign secretary, Douglas Alexander, dismissed David Cameron's "arbitrary" plan to hold a vote in 2017 but declined to rule out a referendum, saying Labour would be governed by the national interest. | Hague spoke out after the Labour party left open the possibility of agreeing to a referendum on Britain's European Union membership. As Tory MPs packed the House of Commons to debate the bill, the shadow foreign secretary, Douglas Alexander, dismissed David Cameron's "arbitrary" plan to hold a vote in 2017 but declined to rule out a referendum, saying Labour would be governed by the national interest. |
The foreign secretary launched a withering attack on the Labour party as he quoted from a series of frontbenchers expressing varying opinions on whether to hold a referendum. | The foreign secretary launched a withering attack on the Labour party as he quoted from a series of frontbenchers expressing varying opinions on whether to hold a referendum. |
Hague said of Labour: "With some in favour, some against, some adamantly for not having one, some adamantly for deciding later at some point, perhaps before the general election but who knows – with such a shambles of confusion and weak leadership, no wonder [Labour MPs] are wondering what they are here for and where their leader is now. One day Unite [the trade union] will give them the orders of how to vote." | Hague said of Labour: "With some in favour, some against, some adamantly for not having one, some adamantly for deciding later at some point, perhaps before the general election but who knows – with such a shambles of confusion and weak leadership, no wonder [Labour MPs] are wondering what they are here for and where their leader is now. One day Unite [the trade union] will give them the orders of how to vote." |
The exchanges between Hague and Alexander dominated the proceedings. | The exchanges between Hague and Alexander dominated the proceedings. |
David Cameron fully supports the Wharton bill, which, in the absence of Liberal Democrat support for a government measure, is the only way in which the Tories can vote in favour of the prime minister's 2017 referendum pledge. | David Cameron fully supports the Wharton bill, which, in the absence of Liberal Democrat support for a government measure, is the only way in which the Tories can vote in favour of the prime minister's 2017 referendum pledge. |
The Labour leadership, which had planned to ignore the Wharton bill, is embarking on an intense debate on whether to embarrass Downing Street by tabling an amendment to call for a referendum before the 2015 general election. Some senior figures warn this would be irresponsible because it would jeopardise Britain's EU membership. A decision will have to be made by November when the bill will be considered at committee stage. | The Labour leadership, which had planned to ignore the Wharton bill, is embarking on an intense debate on whether to embarrass Downing Street by tabling an amendment to call for a referendum before the 2015 general election. Some senior figures warn this would be irresponsible because it would jeopardise Britain's EU membership. A decision will have to be made by November when the bill will be considered at committee stage. |
Alexander chose his words carefully as he left open the possibility of agreeing to a referendum. Asked by the Tory MP Geoffrey Clifton-Brown whether he could give an "absolute" assurance that Labour would not change its mind in opposing a referendum before the 2015 general election, the shadow foreign secretary said: "We have maintained our position. Any judgment in relation to an in-out referendum has to be based on the national interest. Our judgment is that the national interest is not served by this bill and that is why we do not support it." | Alexander chose his words carefully as he left open the possibility of agreeing to a referendum. Asked by the Tory MP Geoffrey Clifton-Brown whether he could give an "absolute" assurance that Labour would not change its mind in opposing a referendum before the 2015 general election, the shadow foreign secretary said: "We have maintained our position. Any judgment in relation to an in-out referendum has to be based on the national interest. Our judgment is that the national interest is not served by this bill and that is why we do not support it." |
Alexander, who mocked the prime minister for changing his position after saying in 2006 that the Conservative party should stop "banging on" about Europe, said that a referendum on Cameron's timetable would not be in the national interest. | Alexander, who mocked the prime minister for changing his position after saying in 2006 that the Conservative party should stop "banging on" about Europe, said that a referendum on Cameron's timetable would not be in the national interest. |
"Any judgment about an in-out referendum on the UK's membership of the EU has to be based on a judgment of what is the national interest … [This] bill reflects an arbitrary date unrelated to the likely timetable of major treaty change. It represents an unrealistic and uncertain negotiating strategy and it is brought forward by a party divided between those seeking consent and those seeking exit." | "Any judgment about an in-out referendum on the UK's membership of the EU has to be based on a judgment of what is the national interest … [This] bill reflects an arbitrary date unrelated to the likely timetable of major treaty change. It represents an unrealistic and uncertain negotiating strategy and it is brought forward by a party divided between those seeking consent and those seeking exit." |
Alexander said Tory MPs were forcing the issue through a private member's bill because they no longer trusted Cameron. Looking across the chamber at the prime minister, Alexander said: "Why doesn't the Conservative party trust the Conservative prime minister? When are they going to release the Downing Street One? He is sitting there like a hostage on the frontbench, not like a leader." | Alexander said Tory MPs were forcing the issue through a private member's bill because they no longer trusted Cameron. Looking across the chamber at the prime minister, Alexander said: "Why doesn't the Conservative party trust the Conservative prime minister? When are they going to release the Downing Street One? He is sitting there like a hostage on the frontbench, not like a leader." |
But the shadow foreign secretary said Labour supported the principle of a referendum because it supported the European Union Act of 2011, which would trigger such a vote if major powers were passed from the UK to the EU. | But the shadow foreign secretary said Labour supported the principle of a referendum because it supported the European Union Act of 2011, which would trigger such a vote if major powers were passed from the UK to the EU. |
A series of Labour MPs, including the former ministers Frank Field and Keith Vaz, said they would vote in favour of the referendum bill. Dennis Skinner, the veteran Eurosceptic Labour MP, intervened in Wharton's speech to say: "In 1971 I voted against the then Common Market and I voted for a referendum in 1975. Sadly the country didn't follow my advice or we wouldn't be doing what we're doing here today. However, there is one thing deficient in this bill. It doesn't ask for a referendum until 2017. What we need is a referendum before the next election. Will he give that commitment?" | A series of Labour MPs, including the former ministers Frank Field and Keith Vaz, said they would vote in favour of the referendum bill. Dennis Skinner, the veteran Eurosceptic Labour MP, intervened in Wharton's speech to say: "In 1971 I voted against the then Common Market and I voted for a referendum in 1975. Sadly the country didn't follow my advice or we wouldn't be doing what we're doing here today. However, there is one thing deficient in this bill. It doesn't ask for a referendum until 2017. What we need is a referendum before the next election. Will he give that commitment?" |
Wharton replied: "For the first time I find myself at least agreeing with part of [your] comments. I do wish more people had listened to him in 1975. But I'm sorry they're not going to now." | Wharton replied: "For the first time I find myself at least agreeing with part of [your] comments. I do wish more people had listened to him in 1975. But I'm sorry they're not going to now." |
But Wharton said that amending his bill would wreck the measure. "Parliamentary procedure is one of the greatest challenges this bill will face. Were it redrawn, enlarged and [made into a] complex bill, it would be easier to slow its progress and wreck the chances of it getting through and delivering what the British people want." | But Wharton said that amending his bill would wreck the measure. "Parliamentary procedure is one of the greatest challenges this bill will face. Were it redrawn, enlarged and [made into a] complex bill, it would be easier to slow its progress and wreck the chances of it getting through and delivering what the British people want." |
Kenneth Clarke, the pro-European former chancellor, was the only Tory cabinet minister who did not vote in favour of the bill. A spokeswoman for Clarke said: "Mr Clarke has been on a short leave of absence for family health reasons." Clarke attends cabinet as a non-voting member. | Kenneth Clarke, the pro-European former chancellor, was the only Tory cabinet minister who did not vote in favour of the bill. A spokeswoman for Clarke said: "Mr Clarke has been on a short leave of absence for family health reasons." Clarke attends cabinet as a non-voting member. |
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