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Woolwich murder: Shot cleaver man said soldiers are targets | |
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A caller to the BBC's radio station for London listened to one of the men shot by police in Woolwich exhorting people to go to Syria to fight, he says. | A caller to the BBC's radio station for London listened to one of the men shot by police in Woolwich exhorting people to go to Syria to fight, he says. |
The man then told the audience outside a community centre in Plumstead it may not be necessary to go "because their soldiers are here". | The man then told the audience outside a community centre in Plumstead it may not be necessary to go "because their soldiers are here". |
Abdullah, who spoke on condition only his first name was used, told BBC London 94.9 he would speak to police. | |
He told the man his views were contrary to the teachings of Islam. | He told the man his views were contrary to the teachings of Islam. |
'Success is closer' | 'Success is closer' |
In the interview he said he recognised the man seen on television with bloodied hands, named by sources as Michael Adebolajo, as the same man who addressed a group two weeks ago. | |
He had urged people at the meeting to go to Syria to fight, he said. | He had urged people at the meeting to go to Syria to fight, he said. |
He then said 'We may not have to go there because their soldiers are here', said Abdullah, 37. | He then said 'We may not have to go there because their soldiers are here', said Abdullah, 37. |
He had added: "Success is closer than you think." | He had added: "Success is closer than you think." |
Abdullah, who would occasionally see the man he knew as Mujahid in Lewisham, said he was so disturbed by what he said on 10 May that he spent a long time arguing with him saying that his views were opposed by Islamic teachings. | Abdullah, who would occasionally see the man he knew as Mujahid in Lewisham, said he was so disturbed by what he said on 10 May that he spent a long time arguing with him saying that his views were opposed by Islamic teachings. |
He told BBC London: "He said he would blow himself up even if my family was there. He said to me 'It's their government. They wanted them in. They are responsible'." | He told BBC London: "He said he would blow himself up even if my family was there. He said to me 'It's their government. They wanted them in. They are responsible'." |
Abdullah added: "These people are so deluded that even Muslims aren't safe. | Abdullah added: "These people are so deluded that even Muslims aren't safe. |
"The frightening thing is that there are more of them out there." | "The frightening thing is that there are more of them out there." |