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Almost 3,000 crimes were committed last year where the suspect was too young to be prosecuted, the BBC has learned.Almost 3,000 crimes were committed last year where the suspect was too young to be prosecuted, the BBC has learned.
Figures show there were about 1,300 incidents of criminal damage and arson, and over 60 sex offences where suspects were under-10s in England and Wales.Figures show there were about 1,300 incidents of criminal damage and arson, and over 60 sex offences where suspects were under-10s in England and Wales.
If a child is nine or under, he or she cannot be charged with an offence but there are calls for the age of criminal responsibility to be lowered.If a child is nine or under, he or she cannot be charged with an offence but there are calls for the age of criminal responsibility to be lowered.
The figures are based on data from 32 of the 43 forces in England and Wales.The figures are based on data from 32 of the 43 forces in England and Wales.
Harassment offencesHarassment offences
Of the 2,840 crimes where the suspect was under 10, about half were cases of arson or criminal damage.Of the 2,840 crimes where the suspect was under 10, about half were cases of arson or criminal damage.
If you go along to any estate and see the age of kids marauding around like a pack of wolves, you'd see that reducing the age of criminal responsibility to eight or nine would be vital Lawrence Lee,solicitorIf you go along to any estate and see the age of kids marauding around like a pack of wolves, you'd see that reducing the age of criminal responsibility to eight or nine would be vital Lawrence Lee,solicitor
There were also 66 sexual offences, including a number of sexual assaults on children under 13.There were also 66 sexual offences, including a number of sexual assaults on children under 13.
The figures, obtained by BBC Radio Five Live through requests under the Freedom of Information Act, also show children too young to face charges were suspected of harassment, wounding and burglary.The figures, obtained by BBC Radio Five Live through requests under the Freedom of Information Act, also show children too young to face charges were suspected of harassment, wounding and burglary.
As a proportion of total crime the numbers are small.As a proportion of total crime the numbers are small.
Home Office figures show there were 5.5 million incidents reported to the police during the same period.Home Office figures show there were 5.5 million incidents reported to the police during the same period.
Bob Ashford from the Youth Justice Board, which advises central and local government on how to deal with young offenders, said authorities were already "on the way to tackle this issue".Bob Ashford from the Youth Justice Board, which advises central and local government on how to deal with young offenders, said authorities were already "on the way to tackle this issue".
Although a child under 10 cannot be charged with an offence in England and Wales, the crime will be recorded by the police. Yes, lower the age. They should know better at the age of nine. It's just that they know they can get away with things that they make people's lives a misery. Trish,Somerset class="" href="http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=7215&edition=1">Send us your comments A child under 10 suspected of committing an act constituting an offence can also be made the subject of a child safety order and placed under the supervision of social workers or a local multi-agency team. Although a child under 10 cannot be charged with an offence in England and Wales, the crime will be recorded by the police.
A child under 10 suspected of committing an act constituting an offence can also be made the subject of a child safety order and placed under the supervision of social workers or a local multi-agency team.
Lawrence Lee, who was solicitor for Jon Venables, one of two 10-year-olds who murdered two-year-old James Bulger in 1993, said lowering the age of criminal responsibility would send an important message to child offenders.Lawrence Lee, who was solicitor for Jon Venables, one of two 10-year-olds who murdered two-year-old James Bulger in 1993, said lowering the age of criminal responsibility would send an important message to child offenders.
Yes, lower the age. They should know better at the age of nine. It's just that they know they can get away with things that they make people's lives a misery. Trish,Somerset Send us your comments
He added: "As a defence lawyer I would say no, it wouldn't be a good thing.He added: "As a defence lawyer I would say no, it wouldn't be a good thing.
CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY AGES US (some states): 6Scotland: 8England, Wales and Northern Ireland: 10Canada, Netherlands: 12France: 13Germany, Austria, Japan, Russia: 14Italy: 15Spain, Portugal: 16Brazil, Peru: 18 (over-12s subject to juvenile proceedings)
"But if I wear my citizen's hat, I would say if you go along to any estate and see the age of kids marauding around like a pack of wolves, you'd see that reducing the age of criminal responsibility to eight or nine would be vital.""But if I wear my citizen's hat, I would say if you go along to any estate and see the age of kids marauding around like a pack of wolves, you'd see that reducing the age of criminal responsibility to eight or nine would be vital."
However, Bob Reitemeier of the Children's Society told the BBC his charity wanted the age of criminal responsibility raised to 14.However, Bob Reitemeier of the Children's Society told the BBC his charity wanted the age of criminal responsibility raised to 14.
He added: "I mean if you look at how children are treated by government and legislation you have to be 18 to be able to vote, 16 to have sex and yet 10 to be held accountable for committing a crime."He added: "I mean if you look at how children are treated by government and legislation you have to be 18 to be able to vote, 16 to have sex and yet 10 to be held accountable for committing a crime."
Paul Cavadino, Chief Executive of Nacro, the crime reduction charity, said lowering the age of criminal responsibility would not reduce crimes committed by young children.Paul Cavadino, Chief Executive of Nacro, the crime reduction charity, said lowering the age of criminal responsibility would not reduce crimes committed by young children.
He added: "The best approach to serious child offenders is to deal with them as children who need effective care measures."He added: "The best approach to serious child offenders is to deal with them as children who need effective care measures."
Training ordersTraining orders
The age of criminal responsibility varies across the world. The formal age of criminal responsibility varies across the world but in many countries youths who commit offences before they reach the minimum age find themselves subject to proceedings in family or special juvenile courts.
In Scotland, eight-year-olds could find themselves in court. But except for serious crimes, the majority are dealt with by children's panels until the age of 16. CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY AGES US (some states): 6Scotland: 8England, Wales and Northern Ireland: 10Canada, Netherlands: 12France: 13Germany, Austria, Italy, Japan, Russia: 14Scandinavian nations: 15Spain, Portugal: 16Brazil, Peru: 18
The age of criminal responsibility is 10 in England, Wales and Northern Ireland; 12 in Canada and the Netherlands; 13 in France; 14 in Germany, Austria, Japan and Russia; 15 in Italy; and 16 in Spain and Portugal. In Scotland, eight-year-olds can face prosecution. But except for serious crimes, the majority are dealt with by children's panels until the age of 16.
In the US, it ranges from six in some states but is 10 for federal criminal court prosecutions. In Brazil and Peru it is 18, although over 12s can find themselves subject to juvenile proceedings. The age of criminal responsibility is 10 in England, Wales and Northern Ireland; 12 in Canada and the Netherlands; 13 in France; 14 in Germany, Austria, Italy, Japan and Russia, and 16 in Spain and Portugal.
In May, a report from the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies at King's College London, recommended the age of responsibility should be raised to 14, 16 or even 18. In the US, it ranges from six in some states but is 10 for federal criminal court prosecutions. In Brazil and Peru it is 18.
In May, a study from the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies at King's College London, recommended the age of responsibility should be raised to 14, 16 or even 18.
The report - a collection of essays from academics and campaigners - said grave crimes by children should be punished by a "residential training order" of up to five years.The report - a collection of essays from academics and campaigners - said grave crimes by children should be punished by a "residential training order" of up to five years.