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| Straw asks Muslims to remove veil | Straw asks Muslims to remove veil |
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| Muslim women in the UK who wear full veils make "better, positive relations" between communities "more difficult", Commons leader Jack Straw has said. | Muslim women in the UK who wear full veils make "better, positive relations" between communities "more difficult", Commons leader Jack Straw has said. |
| Concealing a face was "a visible statement of separation and of difference", the Blackburn MP wrote in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph. | Concealing a face was "a visible statement of separation and of difference", the Blackburn MP wrote in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph. |
| He said he now asks women who have meetings with him to remove their veils so they can truly talk "face-to-face". | He said he now asks women who have meetings with him to remove their veils so they can truly talk "face-to-face". |
| "My concerns could be misplaced, but I think there is an issue here," he said. | "My concerns could be misplaced, but I think there is an issue here," he said. |
| The MP for Blackburn - where Muslims make up about a quarter of the population - said: "The value of a meeting, as opposed to a letter or phone call, is that you can - almost literally - see what the other person means, and not just hear what they say." | |
| What I'm saying on the other side is, would those people who do wear the veil think about the implications for community relations, Jack StrawUK Cabinet minister | What I'm saying on the other side is, would those people who do wear the veil think about the implications for community relations, Jack StrawUK Cabinet minister |
| Mr Straw later told BBC Radio Lancashire that this was "an issue that needs to be discussed because in our society, we are able to relate, particularly to strangers, by being able to read their faces, and if you can't read people's faces, that does provide some separation". | Mr Straw later told BBC Radio Lancashire that this was "an issue that needs to be discussed because in our society, we are able to relate, particularly to strangers, by being able to read their faces, and if you can't read people's faces, that does provide some separation". |
| He said he understood why some women wanted to be covered, citing a recent meeting with a constituent who "said she felt more comfortable when she was outside wearing the veil and she was less troubled by people". | He said he understood why some women wanted to be covered, citing a recent meeting with a constituent who "said she felt more comfortable when she was outside wearing the veil and she was less troubled by people". |
| "What I'm saying on the other side is, would those people who do wear the veil think about the implications for community relations," he said. | "What I'm saying on the other side is, would those people who do wear the veil think about the implications for community relations," he said. |
| 'Selective discrimination' | 'Selective discrimination' |
| Mr Straw was home secretary from 1997 to 2001, and then foreign secretary until 2005, a period which included the build-up to, and invasion of Iraq. | Mr Straw was home secretary from 1997 to 2001, and then foreign secretary until 2005, a period which included the build-up to, and invasion of Iraq. |
| He said he always made sure he had a female colleague in the room when asking someone to remove their veil - and his constituents had so far always agreed when he had asked. | He said he always made sure he had a female colleague in the room when asking someone to remove their veil - and his constituents had so far always agreed when he had asked. |
| Mr Straw also said he defended the right for women to wear headscarfs - which, he said, was the issue in France which had led to recent controversy. | Mr Straw also said he defended the right for women to wear headscarfs - which, he said, was the issue in France which had led to recent controversy. |
| It is astonishing... Jack Straw does not realise that the job of an elected representative is to represent the interests of the constituency, not to selectively discriminate on the basis of religion Massoud ShadjarehIslamic Human Rights Commission | It is astonishing... Jack Straw does not realise that the job of an elected representative is to represent the interests of the constituency, not to selectively discriminate on the basis of religion Massoud ShadjarehIslamic Human Rights Commission |
| The chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission claimed his request would lead to "selective" discrimination. | The chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission claimed his request would lead to "selective" discrimination. |
| "It is astonishing that someone as experienced and senior as Jack Straw does not realise that the job of an elected representative is to represent the interests of the constituency, not to selectively discriminate on the basis of religion," said Massoud Shadjareh. | "It is astonishing that someone as experienced and senior as Jack Straw does not realise that the job of an elected representative is to represent the interests of the constituency, not to selectively discriminate on the basis of religion," said Massoud Shadjareh. |
| But Dr Daud Abdullah of the Muslim Council of Britain said it was up to individual Muslim women whether to wear the veil, adding he understodd the matter "does cause some discomfort to non-Muslim". | But Dr Daud Abdullah of the Muslim Council of Britain said it was up to individual Muslim women whether to wear the veil, adding he understodd the matter "does cause some discomfort to non-Muslim". |
| "Even within the Muslim community the scholars have different views on this. | "Even within the Muslim community the scholars have different views on this. |
| "Our view is that if it is going to cause discomfort and that can be avoided then it can be done. The veil over the hair is obligatory." | "Our view is that if it is going to cause discomfort and that can be avoided then it can be done. The veil over the hair is obligatory." |