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Iraqi police disloyal, says chief | Iraqi police disloyal, says chief |
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An Iraqi police chief cannot trust one third of his officers because they are loyal to illegal militias, he has told the BBC. | |
General Abdul Hussein Al Saffe, head of policing in Dhi Qhar province, told the BBC's Paul Wood he could not sack them as they had political protection. | |
British commander Maj Gen Jonathan Shaw said Iraqi ministers knew the police were "not perfect". | British commander Maj Gen Jonathan Shaw said Iraqi ministers knew the police were "not perfect". |
But the Iraqis were making a judgement for "self-reliance", he said. | |
"There's always a balance when you have a newly created police force and army," he said. | |
"It's a question of balancing Iraqi enthusiasm for self-reliance with the risk of when the are capable of taking that responsibility, and that judgement really has to be made by Iraqis, which they are doing." | "It's a question of balancing Iraqi enthusiasm for self-reliance with the risk of when the are capable of taking that responsibility, and that judgement really has to be made by Iraqis, which they are doing." |
Torture fears | |
Another senior Iraqi officer, Brigadier General Ghalib al Jaza'aere, said he had been forced to hire 300-400 officers who were completely illiterate. | |
There is a level of violence here, but that is life in Iraq. It's been like this for thousands of years. It's not going to change Colonel Ed Brown Struggle for security | |
And he said one policeman had been sacked after he was caught smuggling weapons to be used against British troops, only to be later re-instated and promoted by officials in Baghdad. | And he said one policeman had been sacked after he was caught smuggling weapons to be used against British troops, only to be later re-instated and promoted by officials in Baghdad. |
He even said he feared some members of the police were using torture as they had done under Saddam Hussein. | He even said he feared some members of the police were using torture as they had done under Saddam Hussein. |
The officers' comments came as the British handed over their base in the Old State building in central Basra to the Iraqi authorities. | The officers' comments came as the British handed over their base in the Old State building in central Basra to the Iraqi authorities. |
Maj Gen Jonathan Shaw, commander in southern Iraq, said the move reflected a real sense of progress felt by British troops. | Maj Gen Jonathan Shaw, commander in southern Iraq, said the move reflected a real sense of progress felt by British troops. |
They were, he told the BBC's Huw Edwards, involved in reconstruction, removing corrupt elements and training Iraqi forces. | They were, he told the BBC's Huw Edwards, involved in reconstruction, removing corrupt elements and training Iraqi forces. |
"They can actually see what we're achieving on a daily basis," he added. | "They can actually see what we're achieving on a daily basis," he added. |
'Not Surrey' | 'Not Surrey' |
The British army say Dhi Qhar province is a success story and point out that it is home to the biggest single development project in Iraq, a new gas pumping station costing £10 million. | The British army say Dhi Qhar province is a success story and point out that it is home to the biggest single development project in Iraq, a new gas pumping station costing £10 million. |
Colonel Ed Brown, from the Rifles Regiment, is charged with "strategic oversight" of the now fully independent Iraqi forces in Dhi Qhar and neighbouring Muthana province. | Colonel Ed Brown, from the Rifles Regiment, is charged with "strategic oversight" of the now fully independent Iraqi forces in Dhi Qhar and neighbouring Muthana province. |
He said he had been asked by the Iraqi police for help in dealing with the militia, but had refused. | He said he had been asked by the Iraqi police for help in dealing with the militia, but had refused. |
Col Brown told the BBC: "What we must do as coalition forces is to give as much support as we can without actually taking back the responsibility for security because it is very clearly theirs. | Col Brown told the BBC: "What we must do as coalition forces is to give as much support as we can without actually taking back the responsibility for security because it is very clearly theirs. |
"Things are imperfect, but we make a huge mistake, and we will move down a road that will end in real failure, if we try and turn this into Surrey. It isn't. | "Things are imperfect, but we make a huge mistake, and we will move down a road that will end in real failure, if we try and turn this into Surrey. It isn't. |
"There is a level of violence here, but that is life in Iraq. It's been like this for thousands of years. It's not going to change." | "There is a level of violence here, but that is life in Iraq. It's been like this for thousands of years. It's not going to change." |