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Lives are at being put at risk because fire crews are sometimes used when no ambulances are available, according to the Fire Brigades Union (FBU). | Lives are at being put at risk because fire crews are sometimes used when no ambulances are available, according to the Fire Brigades Union (FBU). |
Mike Smith, the FBU's executive council member for Wales, estimated it had happened on around 90 occasions in south Wales over the past 12 months. | Mike Smith, the FBU's executive council member for Wales, estimated it had happened on around 90 occasions in south Wales over the past 12 months. |
He told BBC Wales' Eye on Wales that one day somebody was "going to die". | He told BBC Wales' Eye on Wales that one day somebody was "going to die". |
But the head of the Welsh Ambulance Service said he was confident its performance was already improving. | But the head of the Welsh Ambulance Service said he was confident its performance was already improving. |
Fire engines are not the only emergency vehicle sometimes used as substitute ambulances, the programme found. | Fire engines are not the only emergency vehicle sometimes used as substitute ambulances, the programme found. |
When someone needs an ambulance they don't want a fire engine or police car Alan Murray, chief executive | When someone needs an ambulance they don't want a fire engine or police car Alan Murray, chief executive |
During a two month period last summer, the South Wales Police Federation identified 57 incidents when officers had difficulty getting an ambulance to the scene. | During a two month period last summer, the South Wales Police Federation identified 57 incidents when officers had difficulty getting an ambulance to the scene. |
And on 25 occasions the police ending up taking people to Accident and Emergency. | And on 25 occasions the police ending up taking people to Accident and Emergency. |
In February, a man stabbed outside a Maesteg pub was taken to hospital in a fire engine because the area's three ambulances were busy. | In February, a man stabbed outside a Maesteg pub was taken to hospital in a fire engine because the area's three ambulances were busy. |
Mr Smith said instances of fire engines being used were too frequent. | Mr Smith said instances of fire engines being used were too frequent. |
"It is a huge, huge problem. I think that somebody is going to die one day," he warned. | "It is a huge, huge problem. I think that somebody is going to die one day," he warned. |
"They're either going to die because the medical intervention is not there or somebody's going to die because the fire appliance is actually doing something it shouldn't be." | "They're either going to die because the medical intervention is not there or somebody's going to die because the fire appliance is actually doing something it shouldn't be." |
Emergency calls | Emergency calls |
The Welsh Ambulance Trust has been beset by problems in recent times, with two changes in the post of chief executive over the last 10 months and AMs voting for a public inquiry. | The Welsh Ambulance Trust has been beset by problems in recent times, with two changes in the post of chief executive over the last 10 months and AMs voting for a public inquiry. |
Last week its performance was branded "appalling" and "unacceptable" in a report by an all-party committee of AMs. | Last week its performance was branded "appalling" and "unacceptable" in a report by an all-party committee of AMs. |
However, recent figures showed an improvement in the number of ambulances reaching emergency calls within the eight minute target time, although the figure was still below the 60% bar set by the Welsh Assembly Government. | However, recent figures showed an improvement in the number of ambulances reaching emergency calls within the eight minute target time, although the figure was still below the 60% bar set by the Welsh Assembly Government. |
Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust Chief Executive Alan Murray said he had no doubt that his crews would achieve the 60% target by March 2008. | Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust Chief Executive Alan Murray said he had no doubt that his crews would achieve the 60% target by March 2008. |
Forbearance | Forbearance |
Mr Murray acknowledged in the past performance had not been up to scratch. | Mr Murray acknowledged in the past performance had not been up to scratch. |
"When someone needs an ambulance they don't want a fire engine or police car - and that's absolutely right. | "When someone needs an ambulance they don't want a fire engine or police car - and that's absolutely right. |
"I've spoken to my fire and police colleagues to thank them. | "I've spoken to my fire and police colleagues to thank them. |
"We've been explaining the situation to them so that they understand the need for a bit more forbearance until we get this right." | "We've been explaining the situation to them so that they understand the need for a bit more forbearance until we get this right." |
Eye on Wales is on BBC Radio Wales at 1800 GMT on Monday 12 March. |
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