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Tories talk trauma and trust over tikka masala | Tories talk trauma and trust over tikka masala |
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The city's Conservatives regularly meet for a curry | The city's Conservatives regularly meet for a curry |
Over the past 12 months, Peterborough's Conservatives lost the leadership of the city's council and saw a new Labour MP elected by just 118 votes. | Over the past 12 months, Peterborough's Conservatives lost the leadership of the city's council and saw a new Labour MP elected by just 118 votes. |
At their regular curry night, party members and councillors admitted it had been a tough time. | At their regular curry night, party members and councillors admitted it had been a tough time. |
Nationally, as the Tories chose between Kemi Badenoch and Robert Jenrick, supporters shared what qualities they looked for in a leader and who could steer them to victory. | Nationally, as the Tories chose between Kemi Badenoch and Robert Jenrick, supporters shared what qualities they looked for in a leader and who could steer them to victory. |
Janet Wilkson said conflict in the party had become "ridiculous" | Janet Wilkson said conflict in the party had become "ridiculous" |
Janet Wilkinson has been in the Conservative Party for 24 years, but said recently, it had not been easy. | Janet Wilkinson has been in the Conservative Party for 24 years, but said recently, it had not been easy. |
"We've had so much trauma over the last few years," she told the BBC. | "We've had so much trauma over the last few years," she told the BBC. |
"With all the leader replacements and everything, I have become a bit disillusioned." | "With all the leader replacements and everything, I have become a bit disillusioned." |
She added that conflict in the party, "especially on the Westminster side", had "become ridiculous - it's become laughable for a lot of people". | She added that conflict in the party, "especially on the Westminster side", had "become ridiculous - it's become laughable for a lot of people". |
Ms Wilkinson, 58, was one of a couple of dozen people at Peterborough Conservatives' regular curry night. | Ms Wilkinson, 58, was one of a couple of dozen people at Peterborough Conservatives' regular curry night. |
Across three tables, at the city's Bombay Brasserie, sat councillors, party members and supporters. | Across three tables, at the city's Bombay Brasserie, sat councillors, party members and supporters. |
A WhatsApp message inviting people to the event asked whether they're a "Badenoch Balti" or a "Jenrick Jalfrezi". | A WhatsApp message inviting people to the event asked whether they're a "Badenoch Balti" or a "Jenrick Jalfrezi". |
Ms Wilkinson had not made her mind up but hoped for someone who could bring the party "back together". | Ms Wilkinson had not made her mind up but hoped for someone who could bring the party "back together". |
"Replacing the leader every five minutes - that is never good for a party," she said. | "Replacing the leader every five minutes - that is never good for a party," she said. |
"I’m still hanging in there and supporting what I believe in, because I think the long-term view is more important than the bad stuff that happened recently." | "I’m still hanging in there and supporting what I believe in, because I think the long-term view is more important than the bad stuff that happened recently." |
According to others at the curry night, that "bad stuff" included breaking promises while in government and losing voters' trust. | According to others at the curry night, that "bad stuff" included breaking promises while in government and losing voters' trust. |
Wayne Fitzgerald backed Robert Jenrick, but it was a close call between two "able" candidates | Wayne Fitzgerald backed Robert Jenrick, but it was a close call between two "able" candidates |
Councillor Wayne Fitzgerald leads the party's group on Peterborough City Council. | Councillor Wayne Fitzgerald leads the party's group on Peterborough City Council. |
He backed Newark MP Robert Jenrick, but said it was "so slim" between two "capable and able" candidates. | He backed Newark MP Robert Jenrick, but said it was "so slim" between two "capable and able" candidates. |
Fitzgerald said Jenrick's proposal to quickly leave the European Convention on Human Rights tipped the balance and would help devise a "sensible immigration policy". | Fitzgerald said Jenrick's proposal to quickly leave the European Convention on Human Rights tipped the balance and would help devise a "sensible immigration policy". |
"I'll be perfectly clear - I am pro-immigration, but the right kind of immigration, given to the right people who come here and want to work and contribute to our society," he explained. | "I'll be perfectly clear - I am pro-immigration, but the right kind of immigration, given to the right people who come here and want to work and contribute to our society," he explained. |
"[Tory problems are] a cocktail of things, but that probably is foremost in most people's minds. | "[Tory problems are] a cocktail of things, but that probably is foremost in most people's minds. |
"Particularly when you have half an eye on Reform and their pitch to our voters that have perhaps deserted us - rightly - because the Conservative Party let the country down. It made promises it didn't keep." | "Particularly when you have half an eye on Reform and their pitch to our voters that have perhaps deserted us - rightly - because the Conservative Party let the country down. It made promises it didn't keep." |
Steve Allen said Kemi Badenoch is a "class act" | Steve Allen said Kemi Badenoch is a "class act" |
But for councillor Steve Allen, Jenrick is "a bit too polarised on his points of view". | |
Allen, 76, said he would vote for North West Essex's MP, Kemi Badenoch, but had favoured another candidate. | Allen, 76, said he would vote for North West Essex's MP, Kemi Badenoch, but had favoured another candidate. |
He said Braintree MP James Cleverly "stole the show" with a "fantastic presentation" at the Conservative Party Conference. | He said Braintree MP James Cleverly "stole the show" with a "fantastic presentation" at the Conservative Party Conference. |
But Cleverly did not make it to the final two as more MPs backed Jenrick and Badenoch in earlier rounds of voting. | But Cleverly did not make it to the final two as more MPs backed Jenrick and Badenoch in earlier rounds of voting. |
Nevertheless, Allen said Badenoch was a "class act". | Nevertheless, Allen said Badenoch was a "class act". |
"What I like about her - she has this proposal to fix the roof before we start putting furniture in the building," he said. | "What I like about her - she has this proposal to fix the roof before we start putting furniture in the building," he said. |
"Find what went wrong before we start coming across with defined policies." | "Find what went wrong before we start coming across with defined policies." |
Jacqueline Allen likes Badenoch's "forensic" analysis and desire to "fix things" | Jacqueline Allen likes Badenoch's "forensic" analysis and desire to "fix things" |
Allen's wife Jacqueline - a party member for eight years - is also backing Badenoch. | |
Before the curry, she spent several hours telephone canvassing on behalf of her campaign. | |
She said 16 of the 20 party members she called had favoured Badenoch. | |
"She has been described as pugnacious," Mrs Allen, 59, said. | "She has been described as pugnacious," Mrs Allen, 59, said. |
"But I think she's not frightened to question. She wants to fix things and she is forensic in her analysis. | "But I think she's not frightened to question. She wants to fix things and she is forensic in her analysis. |
"So, what she's done is opened up conversations that have previously been closed." | "So, what she's done is opened up conversations that have previously been closed." |
Alex Rafiq was disappointed James Cleverly was not on the final ballot | |
Alex Rafiq, a 39-year-old city councillor, had immigration on his mind, but kept tight-lipped about who he supported. | |
"I felt one candidate had clearer policies and clearer issues, one of them being illegal immigration," he said. | "I felt one candidate had clearer policies and clearer issues, one of them being illegal immigration," he said. |
He was also disappointed Cleverly did not make it onto the final ballot. | |
"I think we were probably shocked with who the final two were, but the general consensus is we'll get behind whoever's selected," he added. | "I think we were probably shocked with who the final two were, but the general consensus is we'll get behind whoever's selected," he added. |
Deeshen Ruttun hoped for a "new start" for the party | Deeshen Ruttun hoped for a "new start" for the party |
Both candidates have ministerial experience - Badenoch was Business Secretary in Rishi Sunak's cabinet, while Jenrick served as Housing and Communities Secretary in Boris Johnson's government and was latterly immigration minister. | Both candidates have ministerial experience - Badenoch was Business Secretary in Rishi Sunak's cabinet, while Jenrick served as Housing and Communities Secretary in Boris Johnson's government and was latterly immigration minister. |
Deeshen Ruttun, 31, said Jenrick's housing and immigration experience put him ahead. | Deeshen Ruttun, 31, said Jenrick's housing and immigration experience put him ahead. |
"If you look at the areas that are affecting the people overall, forget the parties for now, he's the one I think that is more ready to be able to solve these [issues]," he said. | "If you look at the areas that are affecting the people overall, forget the parties for now, he's the one I think that is more ready to be able to solve these [issues]," he said. |
Speaking about the mood among Conservative members, he said after a heavy defeat in the General Election, "every step" takes the party forward. | |
"The mood is better and obviously it's a new start, let's put it that way," he continued. | "The mood is better and obviously it's a new start, let's put it that way," he continued. |
"Now is the time to turn the page, select the right leader and move forward." | "Now is the time to turn the page, select the right leader and move forward." |
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