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I told Liz Truss she was going too fast, says Kwasi Kwarteng I told Liz Truss she was going too fast, says Kwasi Kwarteng
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WATCH: Kwarteng breaks silence over being sacked by TrussWATCH: Kwarteng breaks silence over being sacked by Truss
WATCH: Kwarteng breaks silence over being sacked by TrussWATCH: Kwarteng breaks silence over being sacked by Truss
Former chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng has said he warned Liz Truss she was going too fast with her ill-fated economic plans.Former chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng has said he warned Liz Truss she was going too fast with her ill-fated economic plans.
In his first interview since he was sacked by the then PM, Mr Kwarteng told TalkTV he had warned her to "slow down" after September's mini-budget.In his first interview since he was sacked by the then PM, Mr Kwarteng told TalkTV he had warned her to "slow down" after September's mini-budget.
He said he told her it was "mad" to fire him, and she would only last "three or four weeks" if she did.He said he told her it was "mad" to fire him, and she would only last "three or four weeks" if she did.
"Little did I know it was only going to be six days," he added."Little did I know it was only going to be six days," he added.
Mr Kwarteng was dramatically fired by Ms Truss in October, two weeks after their tax-cutting mini-budget sparked turmoil on financial markets.Mr Kwarteng was dramatically fired by Ms Truss in October, two weeks after their tax-cutting mini-budget sparked turmoil on financial markets.
She then ditched almost all of the plan in a bid to stay in power, but announced her resignation a few days later - less than seven weeks after taking office - as support from Conservative MPs ebbed away.She then ditched almost all of the plan in a bid to stay in power, but announced her resignation a few days later - less than seven weeks after taking office - as support from Conservative MPs ebbed away.
Speaking to TalkTV, Mr Kwarteng said that he had warned Ms Truss about going at a "breakneck speed" with economic measures after the mini-budget.Speaking to TalkTV, Mr Kwarteng said that he had warned Ms Truss about going at a "breakneck speed" with economic measures after the mini-budget.
"She said, 'Well, I've only got two years' and I said, 'You will have two months if you carry on like this'. And that is, I'm afraid, what happened.""She said, 'Well, I've only got two years' and I said, 'You will have two months if you carry on like this'. And that is, I'm afraid, what happened."
He also said: "I think the prime minister was very much of the view that we needed to move things fast. But I think it was too quick."He also said: "I think the prime minister was very much of the view that we needed to move things fast. But I think it was too quick."
Mr Kwarteng, a longtime political ally and friend of Ms Truss, revealed the then-PM was "distressed and emotional" when she called him in to be fired, after summoning him back from a trip to the US.Mr Kwarteng, a longtime political ally and friend of Ms Truss, revealed the then-PM was "distressed and emotional" when she called him in to be fired, after summoning him back from a trip to the US.
He also revealed he found out he was going to be sacked when he saw a journalist tweeting about it while he was in the car going to Downing Street.He also revealed he found out he was going to be sacked when he saw a journalist tweeting about it while he was in the car going to Downing Street.
He said he had told her: "This is mad. Prime ministers don't get rid of chancellors."He said he had told her: "This is mad. Prime ministers don't get rid of chancellors."
AnalysisAnalysis
By David Wallace Lockhart, political correspondentBy David Wallace Lockhart, political correspondent
Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng once looked like a dream combination to lead a Conservative government: freedom-loving tax cutters who wanted to prioritise growth, who also happened to be long-term friends.Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng once looked like a dream combination to lead a Conservative government: freedom-loving tax cutters who wanted to prioritise growth, who also happened to be long-term friends.
But we know it didn't work out that way. And now Mr Kwarteng has pointed the finger of blame firmly at his former boss. He claims to have told her to take her foot off the gas after the mini-budget.But we know it didn't work out that way. And now Mr Kwarteng has pointed the finger of blame firmly at his former boss. He claims to have told her to take her foot off the gas after the mini-budget.
This may raise some eyebrows, given that Mr Kwarteng told the BBC a few days after cutting taxes that there was "more to come". That may not have helped investor confidence.This may raise some eyebrows, given that Mr Kwarteng told the BBC a few days after cutting taxes that there was "more to come". That may not have helped investor confidence.
He insists that he remains friends with Ms Truss. But in this interview he does reveal elements of private conversations during his sacking that Ms Truss may well have preferred had stayed within the walls of Downing Street.He insists that he remains friends with Ms Truss. But in this interview he does reveal elements of private conversations during his sacking that Ms Truss may well have preferred had stayed within the walls of Downing Street.
He once toured TV studios insisting she would make a great prime minister. It doesn't feel like they're on as good terms now as they once were.He once toured TV studios insisting she would make a great prime minister. It doesn't feel like they're on as good terms now as they once were.
And what next for Mr Kwarteng? It doesn't sound like he's going to be an awkward backbencher: he's pledging complete loyalty to Rishi Sunak.And what next for Mr Kwarteng? It doesn't sound like he's going to be an awkward backbencher: he's pledging complete loyalty to Rishi Sunak.
There was lots of detail in this interview, but it's important to remember that this is only one side of the events that took place as Ms Truss's premiership began to crumble. When will she break her silence?There was lots of detail in this interview, but it's important to remember that this is only one side of the events that took place as Ms Truss's premiership began to crumble. When will she break her silence?
The former chancellor said he did not think the prime minister could fire him "just for implementing what she campaigned on" during her summer Tory leadership campaign.The former chancellor said he did not think the prime minister could fire him "just for implementing what she campaigned on" during her summer Tory leadership campaign.
He highlighted pledges to scrap a planned increase in corporation tax and reverse a rise in national insurance as having been central to her platform.He highlighted pledges to scrap a planned increase in corporation tax and reverse a rise in national insurance as having been central to her platform.
Mr Kwarteng joined Ms Truss's in arguing that low taxes and policy aimed at encouraging private investment were the best ways to boost economic growth. Mr Kwarteng joined Ms Truss in arguing that low taxes and policy aimed at encouraging private investment were the best ways to boost economic growth.
During his time as chancellor, he repeatedly advocated measures of the sort set out in the mini-budget, and two days after delivering it told the BBC there was "more to come" in the way of tax cuts.During his time as chancellor, he repeatedly advocated measures of the sort set out in the mini-budget, and two days after delivering it told the BBC there was "more to come" in the way of tax cuts.
The comment, along with a decision to announce the mini-budget without publishing an assessment by the government's fiscal watchdog, was later seen as key to convincing investors that the government did not have a credible plan to keep debt levels under control.The comment, along with a decision to announce the mini-budget without publishing an assessment by the government's fiscal watchdog, was later seen as key to convincing investors that the government did not have a credible plan to keep debt levels under control.
In the interview, Mr Kwarteng acknowledged he had to "bear some responsibility" for the pace of the changes.In the interview, Mr Kwarteng acknowledged he had to "bear some responsibility" for the pace of the changes.
Asked whether he would like to apologise to homeowners facing higher mortgage costs after the mini-budget, he replied: "I don't want to relive the past, I just want to focus on where we are next week. There was turbulence, and I regret that".Asked whether he would like to apologise to homeowners facing higher mortgage costs after the mini-budget, he replied: "I don't want to relive the past, I just want to focus on where we are next week. There was turbulence, and I regret that".
He insisted he and Ms Truss were "still friends" - adding that they last spoke around a week ago. He revealed he had still not returned a missed call from her two days ago but added "I will call her back".He insisted he and Ms Truss were "still friends" - adding that they last spoke around a week ago. He revealed he had still not returned a missed call from her two days ago but added "I will call her back".
The prime minister who resigned after just 45 daysThe prime minister who resigned after just 45 days
PM’s vision was right, says sacked chancellorPM’s vision was right, says sacked chancellor
Truss defends tax-cutting goals in farewell speechTruss defends tax-cutting goals in farewell speech
Ms Truss is yet to comment on her time in office since quitting Downing Street last month.Ms Truss is yet to comment on her time in office since quitting Downing Street last month.
In a resignation speech outside No 10, she defended her lower-tax vision for the UK, insisting "We simply cannot afford to be a low-growth country where the government takes up an increasing share of our national wealth."In a resignation speech outside No 10, she defended her lower-tax vision for the UK, insisting "We simply cannot afford to be a low-growth country where the government takes up an increasing share of our national wealth."
In an earlier interview, she said she took responsibility for going "too far, too fast" with the tax cuts in the mini-budget.In an earlier interview, she said she took responsibility for going "too far, too fast" with the tax cuts in the mini-budget.
TimelineTimeline
23 September Mr Kwarteng delivers the so-called mini-budget, announcing the biggest package of tax cuts in 50 years23 September Mr Kwarteng delivers the so-called mini-budget, announcing the biggest package of tax cuts in 50 years
25 September In an interview with the BBC, he says there is "more to come" in the way of tax cuts25 September In an interview with the BBC, he says there is "more to come" in the way of tax cuts
26 September The worst of the market turmoil begins, pushing the pound to record lows against the dollar and sending the cost of government borrowing soaring26 September The worst of the market turmoil begins, pushing the pound to record lows against the dollar and sending the cost of government borrowing soaring
28 September The Bank of England announces a £65bn bond-buying programme to stem a mass sell-off28 September The Bank of England announces a £65bn bond-buying programme to stem a mass sell-off
3 October Mr Kwarteng announces that plans to scrap the 45p rate of income tax will not go ahead3 October Mr Kwarteng announces that plans to scrap the 45p rate of income tax will not go ahead
13 October He acknowledges there has been "some turbulence" in the markets but insists: "I'm not going anywhere"13 October He acknowledges there has been "some turbulence" in the markets but insists: "I'm not going anywhere"
14 October After being recalled by Ms Truss from a summit in Washington, he is sacked as chancellor14 October After being recalled by Ms Truss from a summit in Washington, he is sacked as chancellor
25 October Having lost the confidence of her MPs, Ms Truss resigns as prime minister25 October Having lost the confidence of her MPs, Ms Truss resigns as prime minister
Additional reporting by Christy CooneyAdditional reporting by Christy Cooney