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| A judge's decision not to jail a man who downloaded child pornography because of prison overcrowding, has been condemned by children's charities. | A judge's decision not to jail a man who downloaded child pornography because of prison overcrowding, has been condemned by children's charities. |
| Judge John Rogers QC suspended Derek Williams' sentence, saying he had to consider a Home Office request to only jail the most serious offenders. | Judge John Rogers QC suspended Derek Williams' sentence, saying he had to consider a Home Office request to only jail the most serious offenders. |
| The Lord Chancellor has denied claims by opposition MPs that the judiciary's discretion appeared to be influenced. | The Lord Chancellor has denied claims by opposition MPs that the judiciary's discretion appeared to be influenced. |
| Williams, 46, of Blaenau Ffestiniog, Gwynedd, said he was "lucky to be out". | Williams, 46, of Blaenau Ffestiniog, Gwynedd, said he was "lucky to be out". |
| His six-month term of imprisonment was suspended for two years. | His six-month term of imprisonment was suspended for two years. |
| Williams was also ordered to register with the police as a sex offender for the next seven years and placed under supervision. | Williams was also ordered to register with the police as a sex offender for the next seven years and placed under supervision. |
| He told BBC News: "Yes I am lucky to be out, but you cannot blame the judge for what he has done. His hands are tied. | He told BBC News: "Yes I am lucky to be out, but you cannot blame the judge for what he has done. His hands are tied. |
| "He was only doing his job." | "He was only doing his job." |
| If you paint judges into a corner, then this is what's going to happen Elfyn Llwyd, Plaid Cymru MP | If you paint judges into a corner, then this is what's going to happen Elfyn Llwyd, Plaid Cymru MP |
| The home secretary and legal chiefs sent a letter to judges and magistrates this week reminding them that only the most dangerous and persistent criminals should be jailed. | |
| Judge Rogers, the senior judge on the North Wales circuit, told Mold Crown Court he had to consider "the current sentencing climate". | Judge Rogers, the senior judge on the North Wales circuit, told Mold Crown Court he had to consider "the current sentencing climate". |
| Passing sentence, he said: "As of yesterday, I have to bear in mind a communication from the home secretary." | Passing sentence, he said: "As of yesterday, I have to bear in mind a communication from the home secretary." |
| He said the suspended term also took into account Williams' guilty plea and the time the case had taken to come to court. | He said the suspended term also took into account Williams' guilty plea and the time the case had taken to come to court. |
| 'Deeply worrying' | 'Deeply worrying' |
| On Thursday, the home secretary said the government was in talks to buy two prison ships and use an RAF camp to ease jail overcrowding. | On Thursday, the home secretary said the government was in talks to buy two prison ships and use an RAF camp to ease jail overcrowding. |
| Shadow home secretary David Davis said Judge Rogers's sentence was a result of the government's failure to tackle the prison crisis. | Shadow home secretary David Davis said Judge Rogers's sentence was a result of the government's failure to tackle the prison crisis. |
| The judge said he had to consider the home secretary's request | |
| "If true, then we now have a situation where sentences are being dictated by the prison capacity and not the severity of the crime," he said. | "If true, then we now have a situation where sentences are being dictated by the prison capacity and not the severity of the crime," he said. |
| Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Nick Clegg said the case was an "inevitable domino effect of a government lurching about in blind panic trying to solve a prison overcrowding crisis of its own making". | Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Nick Clegg said the case was an "inevitable domino effect of a government lurching about in blind panic trying to solve a prison overcrowding crisis of its own making". |
| He said: "By appearing to interfere with the discretion of the judiciary, John Reid is further undermining public confidence in a criminal justice system which is in total decay." | He said: "By appearing to interfere with the discretion of the judiciary, John Reid is further undermining public confidence in a criminal justice system which is in total decay." |
| Elfyn Llwyd, Plaid Cymru MP for Meirionnydd Nant Conwy, said the home secretary should "get his tanks off the judges' lawns". | Elfyn Llwyd, Plaid Cymru MP for Meirionnydd Nant Conwy, said the home secretary should "get his tanks off the judges' lawns". |
| "I actually know the judge quite well. I'm a barrister myself and I have the very highest regard for him as do many other practitioners," he said. | "I actually know the judge quite well. I'm a barrister myself and I have the very highest regard for him as do many other practitioners," he said. |
| "If you paint judges into a corner, then this is what's going to happen. It's political interference at its very worst." | "If you paint judges into a corner, then this is what's going to happen. It's political interference at its very worst." |
| But Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer said the letter had only reminded the courts of the sentencing guidelines. | But Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer said the letter had only reminded the courts of the sentencing guidelines. |
| "We make it absolutely clear that the guidelines prescribe that if somebody is dangerous, he should go to prison," he said. | "We make it absolutely clear that the guidelines prescribe that if somebody is dangerous, he should go to prison," he said. |
| The judge should really think again... I don't know quite what he was thinking John CarrChildren's charity NCH | The judge should really think again... I don't know quite what he was thinking John CarrChildren's charity NCH |
| "If you've got a real choice then as much as you possibly can, keep people out of prison, because it's not protecting the public and it may well be that their prospects of rehabilitation or stopping the offending are increased by being out of prison. | "If you've got a real choice then as much as you possibly can, keep people out of prison, because it's not protecting the public and it may well be that their prospects of rehabilitation or stopping the offending are increased by being out of prison. |
| "And that's what the judge has decided here. It's plain that he's borne in mind the prison overcrowding problem." | "And that's what the judge has decided here. It's plain that he's borne in mind the prison overcrowding problem." |
| Dame Mary Marsh, director and chief executive of the NSPCC, said the sentence on Williams was "unacceptable". | Dame Mary Marsh, director and chief executive of the NSPCC, said the sentence on Williams was "unacceptable". |
| "The government needs to ensure that the intention behind the announcement is properly understood and fully thought through, and that children are not put at greater risk by placing offenders in the community rather than in jail," she said. | "The government needs to ensure that the intention behind the announcement is properly understood and fully thought through, and that children are not put at greater risk by placing offenders in the community rather than in jail," she said. |
| John Carr, of children's charity NCH, described the judge's decision as "deeply worrying". | John Carr, of children's charity NCH, described the judge's decision as "deeply worrying". |
| "The judge should really think again... I don't know quite what he was thinking about if he thought that child pornography offences were not serious," he said. | "The judge should really think again... I don't know quite what he was thinking about if he thought that child pornography offences were not serious," he said. |