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| Criminal gangs are infiltrating schools in England and sometimes using primary-age children to run messages between members, ministers have warned. | Criminal gangs are infiltrating schools in England and sometimes using primary-age children to run messages between members, ministers have warned. |
| The Schools Minister, Jim Knight, said the problem existed in Birmingham, Manchester and London. | |
| He told the Commons education select committee he wanted to tackle it before it became "a genuine worry". | He told the Commons education select committee he wanted to tackle it before it became "a genuine worry". |
| Mr Knight also said schools should debate the race row which erupted around Channel 4's Big Brother show. | Mr Knight also said schools should debate the race row which erupted around Channel 4's Big Brother show. |
| He told the cross-party committee of MPs that he accepted his department was "going to set hares running in the media" on the issue of criminal gangs, "but we have to be open about it". | He told the cross-party committee of MPs that he accepted his department was "going to set hares running in the media" on the issue of criminal gangs, "but we have to be open about it". |
| "It is an emerging issue that we want to nip in the bud now before it becomes something that is a genuine worry for parents and pupils," he said. | "It is an emerging issue that we want to nip in the bud now before it becomes something that is a genuine worry for parents and pupils," he said. |
| It's a relationship with criminal gangs outside school that is starting to come in Jim Knight | It's a relationship with criminal gangs outside school that is starting to come in Jim Knight |
| Mr Knight said there were about 10 gangs active in Birmingham, and many more in London. Previously he had said there was a problem with "a couple" of gangs active in schools in Nottingham, but later retracted this. | |
| A particular concern was that very young children in primary schools were being used to "run" messages between gang members, he said. | A particular concern was that very young children in primary schools were being used to "run" messages between gang members, he said. |
| Mr Knight said police were using intelligence on street gangs to help schools tackle the problem. | Mr Knight said police were using intelligence on street gangs to help schools tackle the problem. |
| The issue was being dealt with effectively in the London boroughs of Southwark and Haringey, he said. | The issue was being dealt with effectively in the London boroughs of Southwark and Haringey, he said. |
| "It's a relationship with criminal gangs outside school that is starting to come in[to] school just in those four places that we want to be able to help schools to do something about." | "It's a relationship with criminal gangs outside school that is starting to come in[to] school just in those four places that we want to be able to help schools to do something about." |
| Drugs | Drugs |
| Mr Knight said he was not aware of pupils being forced to take or sell drugs. | Mr Knight said he was not aware of pupils being forced to take or sell drugs. |
| The Department for Education and Skills says an estimated 100 to 200 organised criminal gangs are active in London. | The Department for Education and Skills says an estimated 100 to 200 organised criminal gangs are active in London. |
| But a spokesman said there were no figures for the number of gangs which had infiltrated schools in the capital. | But a spokesman said there were no figures for the number of gangs which had infiltrated schools in the capital. |
| Mick Brookes, general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, said heads were well aware that organised criminal gangs were infiltrating schools. | Mick Brookes, general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, said heads were well aware that organised criminal gangs were infiltrating schools. |
| He said schools must remain a "haven of safety and security" for young people. | He said schools must remain a "haven of safety and security" for young people. |
| Big Brother row | Big Brother row |
| Mr Knight said the row over whether Jade Goody and fellow Big Brother housemates racially bullied Indian actress Shilpa Shetty had got a national debate going and young people should join in. | Mr Knight said the row over whether Jade Goody and fellow Big Brother housemates racially bullied Indian actress Shilpa Shetty had got a national debate going and young people should join in. |
| Goody said her comments were a big mistake | Goody said her comments were a big mistake |
| Mr Knight said bullying "should not be tolerated in any form", whether it be racist, homophobic or otherwise. | Mr Knight said bullying "should not be tolerated in any form", whether it be racist, homophobic or otherwise. |
| Asked specifically how he felt the bullying row over Big Brother would affect pupils, Mr Knight said the debate could help them to explore their own language and attitudes. | Asked specifically how he felt the bullying row over Big Brother would affect pupils, Mr Knight said the debate could help them to explore their own language and attitudes. |
| "We've got a debate going among young people about whether their language is racist," Mr Knight said. | "We've got a debate going among young people about whether their language is racist," Mr Knight said. |
| "And I hope that's being discussed in schools up and down the country." | "And I hope that's being discussed in schools up and down the country." |
| He was also questioned by MPs about the problem of cyber bullying. | He was also questioned by MPs about the problem of cyber bullying. |
| "It's not possible to shut down the technology that's being abused," he said. | "It's not possible to shut down the technology that's being abused," he said. |
| But he said the Department for Education and Skills was working with industry to look at ways of cracking down on this form of bullying. | But he said the Department for Education and Skills was working with industry to look at ways of cracking down on this form of bullying. |
| Getting parents involved | Getting parents involved |
| The minister also stressed that schools should be tackling bullying behaviour outside as well as inside the school gates. | The minister also stressed that schools should be tackling bullying behaviour outside as well as inside the school gates. |
| Mr Knight said bullying was an area where parents needed to get involved. | Mr Knight said bullying was an area where parents needed to get involved. |
| "We need parents to know the signs that their child is being bullied or is bullying. | "We need parents to know the signs that their child is being bullied or is bullying. |
| "It can be difficult to accept that a child is bullying." | "It can be difficult to accept that a child is bullying." |
| Mr Knight said the government would publish new guidelines for schools on the issue later this year. | Mr Knight said the government would publish new guidelines for schools on the issue later this year. |