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Prime Minister Gordon Brown has said he does not regret proposing sweeping changes to MPs' expenses, insisting it had been the "right thing to do".Prime Minister Gordon Brown has said he does not regret proposing sweeping changes to MPs' expenses, insisting it had been the "right thing to do".
He said it was "ridiculous" to suggest dropping a key proposal - replacing the second home allowance with a daily payment for MPs - had been damaging.He said it was "ridiculous" to suggest dropping a key proposal - replacing the second home allowance with a daily payment for MPs - had been damaging.
"Major progress" had been made on other issues, such as restricting claims for MPs within 20 miles of Parliament."Major progress" had been made on other issues, such as restricting claims for MPs within 20 miles of Parliament.
Tory leader David Cameron said the "U-turn" meant the plan was now a "farce".Tory leader David Cameron said the "U-turn" meant the plan was now a "farce".
'Major changes''Major changes'
Measures which are still set to be voted on on Thursday include stopping MPs in greater London from claiming second home allowances and requiring more details of MPs' earnings outside Parliament to be published.Measures which are still set to be voted on on Thursday include stopping MPs in greater London from claiming second home allowances and requiring more details of MPs' earnings outside Parliament to be published.
MPs will also get to debate and vote on a plan to make the Commons responsible for employing staff and also requiring receipts to be submitted for all claims - rather than just those over £25 as at present.MPs will also get to debate and vote on a plan to make the Commons responsible for employing staff and also requiring receipts to be submitted for all claims - rather than just those over £25 as at present.
But Mr Brown also said he still expected any new system, which will be looked at by the independent committee on standards in public life, to address the issues of MPs' attendance at Parliament, transparency and reduced overall costs.But Mr Brown also said he still expected any new system, which will be looked at by the independent committee on standards in public life, to address the issues of MPs' attendance at Parliament, transparency and reduced overall costs.
Nick Clegg on efforts to reach a consensusNick Clegg on efforts to reach a consensus
Speaking at a press conference in Poland, he said: "As far as what is called the additional costs allowance [second homes allowance] is concerned - everybody now agrees that has got to go and be abolished."Speaking at a press conference in Poland, he said: "As far as what is called the additional costs allowance [second homes allowance] is concerned - everybody now agrees that has got to go and be abolished."
He said he believed they had agreed a "set of major changes": "Far from going backwards we have made enormous progress over the few past weeks."He said he believed they had agreed a "set of major changes": "Far from going backwards we have made enormous progress over the few past weeks."
Asked if it had been an own goal and if he regretted making the announcement on the Downing Street website, he said that was "completely and utterly ridiculous".Asked if it had been an own goal and if he regretted making the announcement on the Downing Street website, he said that was "completely and utterly ridiculous".
"I don't regret doing anything I've done on this because it was the right thing to do," he added."I don't regret doing anything I've done on this because it was the right thing to do," he added.
'Boxed in''Boxed in'
He also said he expected the committee on standards in public life, which had been expected to report back by the end of the year, to produce an "earlier report" - he had already asked them to report back by July.He also said he expected the committee on standards in public life, which had been expected to report back by the end of the year, to produce an "earlier report" - he had already asked them to report back by July.
And he suggested Commons leader Harriet Harman would come back to MPs with a progress report before the end of the "summer Parliamentary session".And he suggested Commons leader Harriet Harman would come back to MPs with a progress report before the end of the "summer Parliamentary session".
But sources close to the committee said on Monday it was "unrealistic" to suggest they report back by July and said its chairman, Sir Christopher Kelly would not be "boxed in" by Mr Brown's call for any reform to take account of MPs' attendance at Westminster. But sources close to the committee said on Monday it was "unrealistic" to suggest they report back by July and said its chairman, Sir Christopher Kelly would not be "boxed in".
FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME Attendance pay plan abandonedFROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME Attendance pay plan abandoned
They said Mr Brown's preference for a daily allowance would merely be "one option to consider."They said Mr Brown's preference for a daily allowance would merely be "one option to consider."
Senior Labour MP Sir Stuart Bell raised concerns that the motion put to MPs for a vote on Thursday calls for any new system of allowances should take account of MPs' attendance rates and produce "overall cost savings". Meanwhile the Commons' own standards committee has called for any decisions on expenses to be postponed until after Sir Christopher's committee completes its review.
Sir Stuart told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "I thought that Sir Christopher Kelly was going to be independent and I doubt whether he would like taking advice from the House of Commons on this." The cross-party committee has tabled its own amendment to Thursday's debate saying the review should not be "pre-empted by decisions of the House of Commons" - saying only an external review would command public support.
He also told the BBC the prime minister had been "badly advised" by officials in Downing Street. Senior Labour MP Sir Stuart Bell also raised concerns that the government motion called for any new system of allowances should take account of MPs' attendance rates and produce "overall cost savings".
He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "I thought that Sir Christopher Kelly was going to be independent and I doubt whether he would like taking advice from the House of Commons on this."
Sir Stuart also told the BBC the prime minister had been "badly advised" by officials in Downing Street.
He said Mr Brown had made the announcement last week that he wanted changes by July, because he had been told there was an impending "catastrophe" when millions of receipts backing up MPs' claims were published that month.He said Mr Brown had made the announcement last week that he wanted changes by July, because he had been told there was an impending "catastrophe" when millions of receipts backing up MPs' claims were published that month.
All MPs' claims under the most controversial allowance - their second homes expenses - dating back to 2004 are due to be published after the Commons lost a long-running Freedom of Information battle.All MPs' claims under the most controversial allowance - their second homes expenses - dating back to 2004 are due to be published after the Commons lost a long-running Freedom of Information battle.
'Long grass''Long grass'
But Sir Stuart said that was an "over-reaction". Another Labour MP Mark Fisher said Mr Brown had been "very poorly advised indeed". But Sir Stuart said that was an "over-reaction".
Mr Fisher said the episode had been "bad" for Mr Brown's authority but said he could recover, but added: "He's got a lot of hard work to do". Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg said the revised plan for Thursday's debate and vote was "the worst of both worlds" as the most important issue had been "kicked into the long grass".
Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg said the revised plan for Thursday's debate and vote was "the worst of both worlds" as the most important issue had been "kicked into the long grass" and MPs were left to discuss "relatively minor" issues.
Mr Cameron said: "What we've seen from the prime minister is a U-turn, followed by a climbdown, and now descending into farce."Mr Cameron said: "What we've seen from the prime minister is a U-turn, followed by a climbdown, and now descending into farce."
"He is ducking the issue which people want dealt with, which is a cleaned up system of expenses so we stop the business of MPs claiming for televisions, patio heaters and the rest of it."
Recent revelations about some MPs and ministers' expenses claims have brought the issue back into the spotlight.Recent revelations about some MPs and ministers' expenses claims have brought the issue back into the spotlight.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith and minister Tony McNulty are both being investigated over their second homes expenses claims - both say they acted within the rules.Home Secretary Jacqui Smith and minister Tony McNulty are both being investigated over their second homes expenses claims - both say they acted within the rules.