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| ‘Why would everything be political?’ Jordan Peterson discusses order and eternal truths with RT (FULL INTERVIEW) | ‘Why would everything be political?’ Jordan Peterson discusses order and eternal truths with RT (FULL INTERVIEW) |
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| Dr. Jordan Peterson, acclaimed author and clinical psychologist, spoke to RT about his latest book, looking at the economic value of beauty, mixing art and politics, and his rejection of leftists’ calls for class struggle. | Dr. Jordan Peterson, acclaimed author and clinical psychologist, spoke to RT about his latest book, looking at the economic value of beauty, mixing art and politics, and his rejection of leftists’ calls for class struggle. |
| Afshin Rattansi (host of RT’s show Going Underground): | Afshin Rattansi (host of RT’s show Going Underground): |
| I'm Afshin Rattansi and you're watching a lockdown season finale of 'Going Underground' during and after coronavirus lockdowns, right around the world, impacting on all our lives, who better than to speak to the most influential public intellectual in the Western world, according to the New York Times. | I'm Afshin Rattansi and you're watching a lockdown season finale of 'Going Underground' during and after coronavirus lockdowns, right around the world, impacting on all our lives, who better than to speak to the most influential public intellectual in the Western world, according to the New York Times. |
| Professor Jordan B. Peterson, author of new work 'Beyond Order' joins me now from Toronto in Canada. Jordan, thanks so much for coming back on the show. I’ve got to say you look very well – I know there's been a lot of pain, it's in the prologue to the book. You're doing a podcast with your daughter Mikaila, but, I suppose I should ask how Covid influenced the writing of your latest book, first of all. | Professor Jordan B. Peterson, author of new work 'Beyond Order' joins me now from Toronto in Canada. Jordan, thanks so much for coming back on the show. I’ve got to say you look very well – I know there's been a lot of pain, it's in the prologue to the book. You're doing a podcast with your daughter Mikaila, but, I suppose I should ask how Covid influenced the writing of your latest book, first of all. |
| Jordan Peterson: | Jordan Peterson: |
| Well, I suppose as I was in isolation, along with everyone else, it gave me more time. Other than that, it's had a profound effect on everyone's sense of their own fragility and mortality, and certainly that was the case. | Well, I suppose as I was in isolation, along with everyone else, it gave me more time. Other than that, it's had a profound effect on everyone's sense of their own fragility and mortality, and certainly that was the case. |
| I spent a lot of time locked down with my elderly parents, and so for me, and for everyone else, pandemic brings our vulnerability closer to heart. And it also, I suppose, increased the degree to which I was appreciative of having people around and family around. But, I certainly don't think that reaction is unique to me. | I spent a lot of time locked down with my elderly parents, and so for me, and for everyone else, pandemic brings our vulnerability closer to heart. And it also, I suppose, increased the degree to which I was appreciative of having people around and family around. But, I certainly don't think that reaction is unique to me. |
| This book 'Beyond Order', compared to the last one, concentrates more on the importance of interpersonal relationships in the maintenance of our health, and as a contributor to our general sense that life is worth living. And so I think at least in part, because of the COVID lockdown, the book perhaps has a warmer tone in some way. | This book 'Beyond Order', compared to the last one, concentrates more on the importance of interpersonal relationships in the maintenance of our health, and as a contributor to our general sense that life is worth living. And so I think at least in part, because of the COVID lockdown, the book perhaps has a warmer tone in some way. |
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