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| South Africa's hi-tech healer | South Africa's hi-tech healer |
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| By Lucy Fleming BBC News website, Johannesburg | By Lucy Fleming BBC News website, Johannesburg |
| Swishing a wildebeest tail and wearing a fez-like hat adorned with goat's gall bladders, Amanda Gcabashe seems an unlikely figure for a web-savvy African healer. | Swishing a wildebeest tail and wearing a fez-like hat adorned with goat's gall bladders, Amanda Gcabashe seems an unlikely figure for a web-savvy African healer. |
| But from her plush home in Johannesburg's northern suburbs, she is the face of a modern sangoma, as a traditional healer is known in South Africa. | But from her plush home in Johannesburg's northern suburbs, she is the face of a modern sangoma, as a traditional healer is known in South Africa. |
| The 34-year-old former South African business executive has set up a website to try to debunk the myths and secrets surrounding healers and their powers. | The 34-year-old former South African business executive has set up a website to try to debunk the myths and secrets surrounding healers and their powers. |
| We don't kill people and we don't subscribe to killing people Amanda Gcabashe | We don't kill people and we don't subscribe to killing people Amanda Gcabashe |
| Her practice in the middle-class suburbs has attracted people from across the racial divides - part of her aim to bring sangomas, who tend to be a hidden part of rural and township life, out into the open and to address their bad image. | Her practice in the middle-class suburbs has attracted people from across the racial divides - part of her aim to bring sangomas, who tend to be a hidden part of rural and township life, out into the open and to address their bad image. |
| "Whenever you read media reports or any kind of publicity around an African healer, it's always in the negative and for me that was the starting point," she says. | "Whenever you read media reports or any kind of publicity around an African healer, it's always in the negative and for me that was the starting point," she says. |
| The recent killing of albino people in Tanzania and Burundi for get-rich quick potions are a case in point. | The recent killing of albino people in Tanzania and Burundi for get-rich quick potions are a case in point. |
| Interpreting dreams | Interpreting dreams |
| South Africa too has experienced grisly killings for body parts used in traditional cures - so called "muti murders" - which, Ms Gcabashe says, all sangomas should condemn. | South Africa too has experienced grisly killings for body parts used in traditional cures - so called "muti murders" - which, Ms Gcabashe says, all sangomas should condemn. |
| Amanda Gcabashe's website has a glossary of Zulu terms | Amanda Gcabashe's website has a glossary of Zulu terms |
| "We need to stand up and have our voices heard: We don't kill people and we don't subscribe to killing people. We all get lumped together as healers when there are healers and there are those who use their medicines and abilities for other kinds of things," she says. | "We need to stand up and have our voices heard: We don't kill people and we don't subscribe to killing people. We all get lumped together as healers when there are healers and there are those who use their medicines and abilities for other kinds of things," she says. |
| "I'm from a corporate background. I realised the power of the internet to get information out there and to start a conversation and a dialogue about what we do." | "I'm from a corporate background. I realised the power of the internet to get information out there and to start a conversation and a dialogue about what we do." |
| The glossary of terms on the website describes a sangoma as "one who has the inborn ability to decipher the language of amadlozi [ancestors] including the interpreting of dreams". | The glossary of terms on the website describes a sangoma as "one who has the inborn ability to decipher the language of amadlozi [ancestors] including the interpreting of dreams". |
| "We believe our ancestors give us guidance," says Ms Gcabashe, who became a traditional healer eight and half years ago. | "We believe our ancestors give us guidance," says Ms Gcabashe, who became a traditional healer eight and half years ago. |
| Frequently asked questions | Frequently asked questions |
| As a child, her family never used traditional healers and it was in her twenties that she found her calling - prompted in part by visions of herself dressed in the white and red regalia of a sangoma. | As a child, her family never used traditional healers and it was in her twenties that she found her calling - prompted in part by visions of herself dressed in the white and red regalia of a sangoma. |
| VISITING A SANGOMA Women advised not to wear trousersShoes to be left outside consulting areaTurn off mobile phonesExpect to sit a grass mat on the floorNot all sangomas use bones to communicate with the ancestorsSilver coins sometimes required as part of the paymentFind out if candles or other items are required If consulting on someone else's behalf, bring an item of that person's clothing | VISITING A SANGOMA Women advised not to wear trousersShoes to be left outside consulting areaTurn off mobile phonesExpect to sit a grass mat on the floorNot all sangomas use bones to communicate with the ancestorsSilver coins sometimes required as part of the paymentFind out if candles or other items are required If consulting on someone else's behalf, bring an item of that person's clothing |
| Now her online mission is to show that sangomas are relevant in the 21st Century, much like counsellors, and should be taken seriously along with other forms of complementary therapies. | |
| "When someone comes to see a sangoma you basically discuss whatever problem they are having and try and offer solutions - from a spiritual point of view - and give them tools that they can use to make their lives easier or help them health wise," she says. | "When someone comes to see a sangoma you basically discuss whatever problem they are having and try and offer solutions - from a spiritual point of view - and give them tools that they can use to make their lives easier or help them health wise," she says. |
| "We don't promise instant riches, a fulfilled life is what we try and achieve for people." | "We don't promise instant riches, a fulfilled life is what we try and achieve for people." |
| People are not able to book appointments on her website - www.mphutungwane.co.za - but there is a query form. | People are not able to book appointments on her website - www.mphutungwane.co.za - but there is a query form. |
| She answers emails every day - varying from how to deal with a miscarriage traditionally to curious inquires from as far a field as France - so much so that she is now setting up a "Frequently Asked Questions" section. | She answers emails every day - varying from how to deal with a miscarriage traditionally to curious inquires from as far a field as France - so much so that she is now setting up a "Frequently Asked Questions" section. |
| The website also advises first-timers and people trying to reconnect with their cultural roots about what to expect when consulting a sangoma - and how to behave. | |
| Women should not wear trousers, shoes should be removed and mobile phones turned off. | Women should not wear trousers, shoes should be removed and mobile phones turned off. |
| And while all consultations take place on a grass mat, not all sangomas throw bones to communicate with the ancestral world. | And while all consultations take place on a grass mat, not all sangomas throw bones to communicate with the ancestral world. |
| Reference book | Reference book |
| Ms Gcabashe says she speaks directly to her ancestors - something she learnt to do during her nine-month initiation. | Ms Gcabashe says she speaks directly to her ancestors - something she learnt to do during her nine-month initiation. |
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| For my consultation, I sat on the floor as she stood sideways before me, flicking her fly whisk as she addressed her ancestors in Zulu. | For my consultation, I sat on the floor as she stood sideways before me, flicking her fly whisk as she addressed her ancestors in Zulu. |
| After some minutes she said my mother's mother's grandmother - an elderly Irish lady, bent over double - had hobbled forward to give advice. | After some minutes she said my mother's mother's grandmother - an elderly Irish lady, bent over double - had hobbled forward to give advice. |
| As nothing is known about my Irish grandmother's family, I was surprised at her appearance on the scene - it even felt like an impudent intrusion. | As nothing is known about my Irish grandmother's family, I was surprised at her appearance on the scene - it even felt like an impudent intrusion. |
| "She asks that you should light a candle for her later," Ms Gcabashe said. | "She asks that you should light a candle for her later," Ms Gcabashe said. |
| I softened and we proceeded - after one or two false starts - to discuss my career, affairs of the heart and ended with some health advice. | I softened and we proceeded - after one or two false starts - to discuss my career, affairs of the heart and ended with some health advice. |
| In my case, no medication was prescribed - and not all sangomas, who say they can communicate with the spirit world, are able to dispense medicines. | In my case, no medication was prescribed - and not all sangomas, who say they can communicate with the spirit world, are able to dispense medicines. |
| This is done by inyangas - practitioners trained to collect and prepare herbal cures. | This is done by inyangas - practitioners trained to collect and prepare herbal cures. |
| Ms Gcabashe is an inyanga too and has ambitions to open an African healing centre. | Ms Gcabashe is an inyanga too and has ambitions to open an African healing centre. |
| Frustrated with the lack of reference books on African medicine, she also hopes her website will be a start towards compiling such information. | Frustrated with the lack of reference books on African medicine, she also hopes her website will be a start towards compiling such information. |
| Fighting Aids | Fighting Aids |
| She believes sangomas have an important role to play in fighting HIV/Aids - by far South Africa's biggest health issue - especially addressing the stigma of HIV and making people understand that it is manageable if treated as a life-long condition. | She believes sangomas have an important role to play in fighting HIV/Aids - by far South Africa's biggest health issue - especially addressing the stigma of HIV and making people understand that it is manageable if treated as a life-long condition. |
| It's my gift and I can't run away from it Amanda Gcabashe | |
| But she disputes the controversial claim by a former South African health minister that remedies such as eating African potatoes can combat HIV. | But she disputes the controversial claim by a former South African health minister that remedies such as eating African potatoes can combat HIV. |
| She says traditional medicines can be used along with Western medicine in the treatment of HIV/Aids - by increasing appetite and strengthening the immune system. | She says traditional medicines can be used along with Western medicine in the treatment of HIV/Aids - by increasing appetite and strengthening the immune system. |
| "If someone's on ARVs [anti-retrovirals] I never say: 'Throw them away and take my medicine.'" | "If someone's on ARVs [anti-retrovirals] I never say: 'Throw them away and take my medicine.'" |
| The day after our interview I received a call from the taxi driver who had delivered me to the appointment in the upmarket gated estate - agog to hear how much "the sangoma in the suburbs" had charged. | The day after our interview I received a call from the taxi driver who had delivered me to the appointment in the upmarket gated estate - agog to hear how much "the sangoma in the suburbs" had charged. |
| In the townships, he said, a visit to a sangoma costs about 50 rand (£4), cheaper than a visit to the doctor. | In the townships, he said, a visit to a sangoma costs about 50 rand (£4), cheaper than a visit to the doctor. |
| Ms Gcabashe's fee is 200 rand for an hour-and-a-half session. | Ms Gcabashe's fee is 200 rand for an hour-and-a-half session. |
| But with an average of five clients a week and daily queries on her website which do not necessarily translate into physical consultations, it is not a lucrative business. | But with an average of five clients a week and daily queries on her website which do not necessarily translate into physical consultations, it is not a lucrative business. |
| "It's my gift and I can't run away from it," she says, adding that she is a consultant on traditional customs, such as weddings, to supplement her income. | "It's my gift and I can't run away from it," she says, adding that she is a consultant on traditional customs, such as weddings, to supplement her income. |
| "We're all very Westernised but when we come to get married, we want to do the traditional thing." | "We're all very Westernised but when we come to get married, we want to do the traditional thing." |