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PM and Palace 'discussed reform' | PM and Palace 'discussed reform' |
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Gordon Brown and Buckingham Palace have discussed plans to change the rules of succession to the throne, including giving royal women equal rights. | Gordon Brown and Buckingham Palace have discussed plans to change the rules of succession to the throne, including giving royal women equal rights. |
Downing Street said the scrapping of the ban on heirs to the throne marrying Roman Catholics was also discussed. | Downing Street said the scrapping of the ban on heirs to the throne marrying Roman Catholics was also discussed. |
A Private Members' Bill aimed at ending the discrimination is due to be debated but the government is not backing it. | A Private Members' Bill aimed at ending the discrimination is due to be debated but the government is not backing it. |
Meanwhile a BBC poll suggests there is overwhelming public support, with some some 80% backing the bill's proposals. | Meanwhile a BBC poll suggests there is overwhelming public support, with some some 80% backing the bill's proposals. |
The poll also suggests 76% of Britons want the monarchy to continue after the Queen. | The poll also suggests 76% of Britons want the monarchy to continue after the Queen. |
The legislation on reform has been introduced by Liberal Democrat MP Evan Harris, to end the "uniquely discriminatory" rules laid down in the 1701 Act of Settlement. | The legislation on reform has been introduced by Liberal Democrat MP Evan Harris, to end the "uniquely discriminatory" rules laid down in the 1701 Act of Settlement. |
BBC POLL: THE PUBLIC SPEAKS Equal rights for royal women? - 89% yesHeir allowed to marry Catholic? - 81% yesBritish monarchy to continue? - 76% yes1,000 people polled by ICM Research, 20-22 March 2009 Why the monarchy discriminates | |
For centuries the rules have endured but the government has indicated that it is prepared to look at it again, said BBC political correspondent Ben Wright. | For centuries the rules have endured but the government has indicated that it is prepared to look at it again, said BBC political correspondent Ben Wright. |
Downing Street confirmed the prime minister would raise the prospect of the major reforms at a Commonwealth summit in November, and that dialogue with Buckingham Palace was ongoing. | Downing Street confirmed the prime minister would raise the prospect of the major reforms at a Commonwealth summit in November, and that dialogue with Buckingham Palace was ongoing. |
Such reform would need the backing of the 15 other Commonwealth countries which have the British monarch as head of state. | Such reform would need the backing of the 15 other Commonwealth countries which have the British monarch as head of state. |
Sources at Number 10 have said while the government supports the "principles and objectives" of the bill, it would not support the bill itself. | Sources at Number 10 have said while the government supports the "principles and objectives" of the bill, it would not support the bill itself. |
Dr Harris has cross-party support for his proposals, but a Ministry of Justice spokesman said while the government "stood firmly against discrimination" there were no immediate plans to legislate because the changes required were "complex". | Dr Harris has cross-party support for his proposals, but a Ministry of Justice spokesman said while the government "stood firmly against discrimination" there were no immediate plans to legislate because the changes required were "complex". |
'Slowly, slowly' | 'Slowly, slowly' |
The Act states that heirs to the throne lose their right to be the sovereign if they marry a Catholic or convert. | The Act states that heirs to the throne lose their right to be the sovereign if they marry a Catholic or convert. |
In addition, male heirs are given precedence. | In addition, male heirs are given precedence. |
If the Act was changed to give royal daughters equal rights, Princess Anne would become fourth in line, behind Prince Harry. Currently she comes after the Duke of York and the Earl of Wessex, and their children. | If the Act was changed to give royal daughters equal rights, Princess Anne would become fourth in line, behind Prince Harry. Currently she comes after the Duke of York and the Earl of Wessex, and their children. |
As things stand, Prince William cannot marry a Roman Catholic and become king. | As things stand, Prince William cannot marry a Roman Catholic and become king. |
And if he has a daughter she cannot be queen if she has a younger brother. | And if he has a daughter she cannot be queen if she has a younger brother. |
Dr Harris's Royal Marriages and Succession to the Crown (Prevention of Discrimination) Bill is co-sponsored by Catholic parliamentarians such as Tory MP Edward Leigh, Labour's Andrew Mackinlay and John Grogan and fellow Lib Dem John Pugh. | Dr Harris's Royal Marriages and Succession to the Crown (Prevention of Discrimination) Bill is co-sponsored by Catholic parliamentarians such as Tory MP Edward Leigh, Labour's Andrew Mackinlay and John Grogan and fellow Lib Dem John Pugh. |
BBC royal correspondent Peter Hunt said the government was now moving "slowly, very slowly" on the issue, as it tried to deal with what a Scottish cardinal has called "state-sponsored sectarianism", said | BBC royal correspondent Peter Hunt said the government was now moving "slowly, very slowly" on the issue, as it tried to deal with what a Scottish cardinal has called "state-sponsored sectarianism", said |
But it may not give this particular private members bill the support it would need to become law. | But it may not give this particular private members bill the support it would need to become law. |
A Ministry of Justice spokeswoman said: "The government has always stood firmly against discrimination in all its forms, including against Roman Catholics, and we will continue to do so. | A Ministry of Justice spokeswoman said: "The government has always stood firmly against discrimination in all its forms, including against Roman Catholics, and we will continue to do so. |
"To bring about changes to the law on succession would be a complex undertaking involving amendment or repeal of a number of items of related legislation, as well as requiring the consent of legislatures of member nations of the Commonwealth. | "To bring about changes to the law on succession would be a complex undertaking involving amendment or repeal of a number of items of related legislation, as well as requiring the consent of legislatures of member nations of the Commonwealth. |
"We are examining this complex area although there are no immediate plans to legislate." | "We are examining this complex area although there are no immediate plans to legislate." |
Republic | Republic |
Dr Harris said there was "nothing new" in the government saying it wanted to see change. | Dr Harris said there was "nothing new" in the government saying it wanted to see change. |
"When first elected 12 years ago they said they would end unjustified discrimination wherever it exists. But there has been no action to back that up. | "When first elected 12 years ago they said they would end unjustified discrimination wherever it exists. But there has been no action to back that up. |
"They need to support this bill today, amend it as necessary and make sure it passes. They can't wait until next year because our constitution also tells us that their time is up in June. This is the last chance." | "They need to support this bill today, amend it as necessary and make sure it passes. They can't wait until next year because our constitution also tells us that their time is up in June. This is the last chance." |
The BBC poll, conducted by ICM Research, suggests four out of five people want to give women equal rights of succession and remove the ban on the heir marrying a Roman Catholic. | |
Some 89% of the 1,000 people questioned believed male and female heirs should have equal rights to succeed to the throne. | |
Some 81% believed that an heir to the throne should be allowed to marry a Roman Catholic and still become monarch. | Some 81% believed that an heir to the throne should be allowed to marry a Roman Catholic and still become monarch. |
According to the poll, 76% said the monarchy should continue, against 18% who said they would favour Britain becoming a republic. An additional 6% said they did not know. | According to the poll, 76% said the monarchy should continue, against 18% who said they would favour Britain becoming a republic. An additional 6% said they did not know. |