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Kabul 20 years after the Soviets Kabul 20 years after the Soviets
(about 16 hours later)
Two decades later, the ruins of Soviet tanks can still be found in KabulTwo decades later, the ruins of Soviet tanks can still be found in Kabul
Twenty years ago this week, Soviet troops pulled out of Afghanistan, after nine years of occupation. Lyse Doucet was our correspondent in Kabul then and she's back in the Afghan capital now.Twenty years ago this week, Soviet troops pulled out of Afghanistan, after nine years of occupation. Lyse Doucet was our correspondent in Kabul then and she's back in the Afghan capital now.
I still keep the single sheet of paper - dull grey, stark black font, with the seal of the British embassy in Kabul, dated the 19th of January 1989. I still keep the single sheet of paper - dull grey, stark black font, with the seal of the British embassy in Kabul, dated 19 January 1989.
"I must advise you," it warns, "you should leave Afghanistan without delay while normal flights are still available." "I must advise you," it warns, "you should leave Afghanistan without delay while normal flights are still available".
The British ambassador then pulled down the Union flag and locked the gates of a magnificent compound Lord Curzon once said was worth five divisions.The British ambassador then pulled down the Union flag and locked the gates of a magnificent compound Lord Curzon once said was worth five divisions.
The US ambassador had done the same weeks earlier, urging Soviet troops to complete their pullout and predicting the collapse of the Afghan government.The US ambassador had done the same weeks earlier, urging Soviet troops to complete their pullout and predicting the collapse of the Afghan government.
Anxious voicesAnxious voices
These were the dying days of the Soviet empire in the harsh winter of 1989. We didn't know it then. But we felt Kabul was in the eye of the storm.These were the dying days of the Soviet empire in the harsh winter of 1989. We didn't know it then. But we felt Kabul was in the eye of the storm.
Every day, several times a day, I was asked, in whispered anxious voices, by foreigners and Afghans: "Are you leaving? Do you think it's safe to stay? When will Najib go?" Najib is what many called the Soviet-backed president, Najibullah. Najibullah - 'he was very strong'Every day, several times a day, I was asked, in whispered anxious voices, by foreigners and Afghans: "Are you leaving? Do you think it's safe to stay? When will Najib go?" Najib is what many called the Soviet-backed president, Najibullah. Najibullah - 'he was very strong'
Some said he was a murderer, from his days heading the infamous KGB-trained Khad secret service. His nickname was the Ox - he was a burly man with a big voice and a barrel chest. He declared, to anyone who would listen, he wasn't going anywhere.Some said he was a murderer, from his days heading the infamous KGB-trained Khad secret service. His nickname was the Ox - he was a burly man with a big voice and a barrel chest. He declared, to anyone who would listen, he wasn't going anywhere.
Not many believed him then. In neighbouring Pakistan, Mujahideen rebels, backed by the might of the United States, the money of Saudi Arabia, and the efforts of Pakistan, bickered over the formation of an alternative government. Not many believed him then. In neighbouring Pakistan, mujahideen rebels, backed by the might of the United States, the money of Saudi Arabia, and the efforts of Pakistan, bickered over the formation of an alternative government.
Earlier, while in Islamabad, I was warned by some Mujahideen leaders to be careful in Kabul. They later sent safe-passage letters so that when they entered I would not be harmed. For them, it was only a matter of weeks. Earlier, while in Islamabad, I was warned by some mujahideen leaders to be careful in Kabul. They later sent safe-passage letters so that when they entered I would not be harmed. For them, it was only a matter of weeks.
How hard it was then to know if they were right or Najibullah was.How hard it was then to know if they were right or Najibullah was.
City cut offCity cut off
Even Soviet officials heightened this sense of siege, speaking of 30,000 Mujahideen fighters just beyond the snow-capped mountains that encircle this city. The rockets fell on Kabul every day. But was Kabul itself even close to falling? Even Soviet officials heightened this sense of siege, speaking of 30,000 mujahideen fighters just beyond the snow-capped mountains that encircle this city. The rockets fell on Kabul every day. But was Kabul itself even close to falling?
Afghans still worry about the future, foreigners still ask if it's safe to stayAfghans still worry about the future, foreigners still ask if it's safe to stay
In recent weeks, I've been calling Afghans who were the president's closest advisors then. "Was Najib really that strong then?" I asked one former aide. "Najib wasn't just strong," he insisted "he was very strong." In recent weeks, I've been calling Afghans who were the president's closest advisers then. "Was Najib really that strong then?" I asked one former aide. "Najib wasn't just strong," he insisted, "he was very strong".
Kabul in 1988 was isolated - by Cold War rivalries, and often cut off by snow that blocked any road or flight out of the city. There were of course no mobile telephones or internet then, just a small number of clattering telex machines and only three international telephone lines.Kabul in 1988 was isolated - by Cold War rivalries, and often cut off by snow that blocked any road or flight out of the city. There were of course no mobile telephones or internet then, just a small number of clattering telex machines and only three international telephone lines.
For some reason, many calls were routed through Glasgow. So every day, in my fourth floor room in a gloomy hilltop hotel, I spent a lot of time talking to Scottish telephone operators.For some reason, many calls were routed through Glasgow. So every day, in my fourth floor room in a gloomy hilltop hotel, I spent a lot of time talking to Scottish telephone operators.
Three years later President Najibullah's rule finally ended. He was brought down by intrigues within his own party and in Moscow, an ill-fated UN process, and double-dealing by rival Mujahideen commanders. They eventually took over Kabul and destroyed large parts of it. Three years later President Najibullah's rule finally ended. He was brought down by intrigues within his own party and in Moscow, an ill-fated UN process, and double-dealing by rival mujahideen commanders. They eventually took over Kabul and destroyed large parts of it.
Body hungBody hung
The president still didn't manage to leave as his regime collapsed around him. He took refuge in a UN compound. And when the Taleban stormed into Kabul in 1996, he was urged to flee, but with his trademark confidence, he insisted: "I know my people, I will stay." The president still did not manage to leave as his regime collapsed around him. He took refuge in a UN compound. And when the Taleban stormed into Kabul in 1996, he was urged to flee, but with his trademark confidence, he insisted: "I know my people, I will stay."
Life is still hard for children in KabulLife is still hard for children in Kabul
Vengeful Taleban fighters killed him and hung his body at a roundabout alongside his brother.Vengeful Taleban fighters killed him and hung his body at a roundabout alongside his brother.
That was then, and this is now. On Kabul's freezing winter streets Afghan urchins press smudged faces against car windows peddling photographs of Afghan leaders including Najibullah. Copies of his speeches now do a brisk trade in the market - they're admired by some Afghans for their wisdom and wit. That was then, and this is now. On Kabul's freezing winter streets Afghan urchins press smudged faces against car windows peddling photographs of Afghan leaders including Najibullah. Copies of his speeches now do a brisk trade in the market - they are admired by some Afghans for their wisdom and wit.
The violence hasn't gone either. Now it's Taleban suicide bombs rather than Mujahideen rockets which terrorise this city. The violence has not gone either. Now it is Taleban suicide bombs rather than mujahideen rockets which terrorise this city.
Afghans still worry about the future, foreigners still ask if it's safe to stay. And, just as many once asked how long President Najibullah could cling on to power, now they ask whether an embattled President Karzai will be elected again .. and Western governments, including a new administration in Washington, raise questions about his rule. Afghans still worry about the future, foreigners still ask if it is safe to stay. And, just as many once asked how long President Najibullah could cling on to power, now they ask whether an embattled President Karzai will be elected again - and Western governments, including a new administration in Washington, raise questions about his rule.
Twenty years on Kabul remains threatened by rebels, cradled by the Hindu Kush, still very much in the eye of the storm.Twenty years on Kabul remains threatened by rebels, cradled by the Hindu Kush, still very much in the eye of the storm.
From Our Own Correspondent was broadcast on Saturday, 14 February, 2009 at 1130 GMT on BBC Radio 4. Please check the programme schedules for World Service transmission times.From Our Own Correspondent was broadcast on Saturday, 14 February, 2009 at 1130 GMT on BBC Radio 4. Please check the programme schedules for World Service transmission times.