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Tory tensions and keeping the UK intact Tory tensions over keeping the UK intact
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Just how committed is the Conservative Party to keeping the UK together?Just how committed is the Conservative Party to keeping the UK together?
That might seem an odd question to ask of a party that is properly known as the Conservative and Unionist Party.That might seem an odd question to ask of a party that is properly known as the Conservative and Unionist Party.
The clue is in the word Unionist, right?The clue is in the word Unionist, right?
Yes, but the party's commitment to leaving the European Union is in potential conflict with its commitment to keeping the UK union intact.Yes, but the party's commitment to leaving the European Union is in potential conflict with its commitment to keeping the UK union intact.
That's not always obvious when you listen to some leading Conservatives.That's not always obvious when you listen to some leading Conservatives.
Theresa May said she would always fight to strengthen and sustain what she called "this precious Union" of nations.Theresa May said she would always fight to strengthen and sustain what she called "this precious Union" of nations.
The final two candidates in the race to succeed her as Tory leader and prime minister have made similar pledges.The final two candidates in the race to succeed her as Tory leader and prime minister have made similar pledges.
Boris Johnson said that, should he win, he would put "strengthening our Union at the heart of everything".Boris Johnson said that, should he win, he would put "strengthening our Union at the heart of everything".
Jeremy Hunt has described himself as "passionately committed to the Union" and promised to resist indyref2.Jeremy Hunt has described himself as "passionately committed to the Union" and promised to resist indyref2.
So where's the conflict?So where's the conflict?
What Johnson and Hunt do not do is rule out a no-deal departure from the EU.What Johnson and Hunt do not do is rule out a no-deal departure from the EU.
Both candidates want to negotiate new terms for withdrawal, which the EU insisted at its June summit would not be possible.Both candidates want to negotiate new terms for withdrawal, which the EU insisted at its June summit would not be possible.
That makes a no-deal departure more likely and some senior Conservatives (and many Scottish nationalists) think that in turn makes Scottish independence more likely.That makes a no-deal departure more likely and some senior Conservatives (and many Scottish nationalists) think that in turn makes Scottish independence more likely.
The Chancellor Philip Hammond said in his Mansion House speech on Thursday that a no-deal Brexit would "risk the union and our economic prosperity".The Chancellor Philip Hammond said in his Mansion House speech on Thursday that a no-deal Brexit would "risk the union and our economic prosperity".
The Scottish Secretary David Mundell has previously expressed similar views and the international Development Secretary Rory Stewart, said on Wednesday that preserving the union was one of the reasons he'd rule out no deal.The Scottish Secretary David Mundell has previously expressed similar views and the international Development Secretary Rory Stewart, said on Wednesday that preserving the union was one of the reasons he'd rule out no deal.
Others in Cabinet see things differently.Others in Cabinet see things differently.
The Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay said on Thursday "no Brexit, undermining democracy, or a second referendum would be a threat to the union".The Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay said on Thursday "no Brexit, undermining democracy, or a second referendum would be a threat to the union".
For him, the possibility of Brexit not happening appears to be of greater concern and that may be more in tune with the views of the wider party membership.For him, the possibility of Brexit not happening appears to be of greater concern and that may be more in tune with the views of the wider party membership.
A YouGov poll of about 900 Tory members found that 63% of those surveyed would prefer Brexit to go ahead even it caused Scottish independence.A YouGov poll of about 900 Tory members found that 63% of those surveyed would prefer Brexit to go ahead even it caused Scottish independence.
The same survey, published this week, suggested 59% would want Brexit even if it led to Northern Ireland leaving the union.The same survey, published this week, suggested 59% would want Brexit even if it led to Northern Ireland leaving the union.
These findings are consistent with research carried out by academics at Edinburgh and Cardiff universities for the Future of England Study last year.These findings are consistent with research carried out by academics at Edinburgh and Cardiff universities for the Future of England Study last year.
Brexit appears to be more important to the bulk of Conservative Party members than keeping the UK united.Brexit appears to be more important to the bulk of Conservative Party members than keeping the UK united.
I got a sense of this kind of thinking in conversations with voters on a recent visit to Hastings in East Sussex, where a majority opted to leave in the EU referendum.I got a sense of this kind of thinking in conversations with voters on a recent visit to Hastings in East Sussex, where a majority opted to leave in the EU referendum.
One Brexit backing fisherman told me: "I'd like to see Scotland and [Northern] Ireland stay... but if they want to have their independence, it's up to them".One Brexit backing fisherman told me: "I'd like to see Scotland and [Northern] Ireland stay... but if they want to have their independence, it's up to them".
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All of which encourages the Scottish National Party and others who argue for another independence referendum.All of which encourages the Scottish National Party and others who argue for another independence referendum.
They believe Brexit justifies indyref2, because a majority in Scotland backed remain and that a no-deal would increase public support for revisiting independence.They believe Brexit justifies indyref2, because a majority in Scotland backed remain and that a no-deal would increase public support for revisiting independence.
Others maintain that the more disruptive Brexit turns out to be, the less Scots will want to consider further constitutional change and the difficult questions over currency and border arrangements that come with it.Others maintain that the more disruptive Brexit turns out to be, the less Scots will want to consider further constitutional change and the difficult questions over currency and border arrangements that come with it.
That is not a chance the leader of the Scottish Conservatives, Ruth Davidson, wants to take having placed unionism at the heart of her politics.That is not a chance the leader of the Scottish Conservatives, Ruth Davidson, wants to take having placed unionism at the heart of her politics.
In response to the YouGov poll she said: "There are a number of people in the Conservative Party that need to take a long hard look at themselves.In response to the YouGov poll she said: "There are a number of people in the Conservative Party that need to take a long hard look at themselves.
"Of course we've got to deliver Brexit but not at the expense of breaking up the United Kingdom"."Of course we've got to deliver Brexit but not at the expense of breaking up the United Kingdom".
It remains to be seen whether those twin objectives are achievable for a Tory Party in government and in turmoil over Brexit at Westminster.It remains to be seen whether those twin objectives are achievable for a Tory Party in government and in turmoil over Brexit at Westminster.
It is also unclear how much influence Ms Davidson will have with the next prime minister having backed candidates other than Jeremy Hunt and Boris Johnson for the top job.It is also unclear how much influence Ms Davidson will have with the next prime minister having backed candidates other than Jeremy Hunt and Boris Johnson for the top job.