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The death of New Labour? | The death of New Labour? |
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Analysis By John Pienaar BBC political correspondent | Analysis By John Pienaar BBC political correspondent |
Not Marx: Mervyn King has been warning banks to increase their lending | Not Marx: Mervyn King has been warning banks to increase their lending |
Close your eyes and superimpose a huge, scraggly beard on the face of Mervyn King. Ruffle his hair a bit. | Close your eyes and superimpose a huge, scraggly beard on the face of Mervyn King. Ruffle his hair a bit. |
The governor of the Bank of England still doesn't look much like Karl Marx, does he? | The governor of the Bank of England still doesn't look much like Karl Marx, does he? |
Now remove the exquisitely tailored suit, and imagine him in a donkey jacket. Michael Foot he isn't. Or, for that matter, anyone but the cautious, conservative, pillar of the British financial establishment that he is. | Now remove the exquisitely tailored suit, and imagine him in a donkey jacket. Michael Foot he isn't. Or, for that matter, anyone but the cautious, conservative, pillar of the British financial establishment that he is. |
Yet there he was, calmly contemplating the nationalisation of British high street banks. Not just public ownership or partial ownership of banks, but control. | Yet there he was, calmly contemplating the nationalisation of British high street banks. Not just public ownership or partial ownership of banks, but control. |
No-one has seriously dreamt of such a thing since Labour's 1983 manifesto. Remember? They called it the "longest suicide note in political history". | No-one has seriously dreamt of such a thing since Labour's 1983 manifesto. Remember? They called it the "longest suicide note in political history". |
At any normal time, it would have been a mind-boggling suggestion. But these times are far from being normal. | At any normal time, it would have been a mind-boggling suggestion. But these times are far from being normal. |
As it was, it was merely surprising. | As it was, it was merely surprising. |
Having listened to the latest session of the cross-party Treasury Select Committee, it is a little hard, surely, to accept that the pre-Budget report amounts to the "death of New Labour". | Having listened to the latest session of the cross-party Treasury Select Committee, it is a little hard, surely, to accept that the pre-Budget report amounts to the "death of New Labour". |
Is this really the return of old-style, redistributionist thinking to the party of Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson (now, apparently, as close as ever they were in the salad days of the New Labour project)? | Is this really the return of old-style, redistributionist thinking to the party of Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson (now, apparently, as close as ever they were in the salad days of the New Labour project)? |
Cabinet ministers seem to laugh off the idea that Labour has returned to its rather withered, socialist roots. Governor warns banks on lending | Cabinet ministers seem to laugh off the idea that Labour has returned to its rather withered, socialist roots. Governor warns banks on lending |
The present economic emergency has turned all conventional political thinking on its head. | The present economic emergency has turned all conventional political thinking on its head. |
Unconstrained borrowing is prudent. A spending spree is responsible, even selfless. | Unconstrained borrowing is prudent. A spending spree is responsible, even selfless. |
And public ownership of a high street bank may be no more than reminding the board to do its duty in our free market, capitalist system. | And public ownership of a high street bank may be no more than reminding the board to do its duty in our free market, capitalist system. |
These are, as the chancellor said on Monday, "extraordinary times". | These are, as the chancellor said on Monday, "extraordinary times". |
In any case, as one cabinet minister put it to me: "We've always been redistributionist. Look at tax credits." | In any case, as one cabinet minister put it to me: "We've always been redistributionist. Look at tax credits." |
A Downing Street adviser added: " New Labour has always been about adapting to changing circumstances. That's what we are doing now." | A Downing Street adviser added: " New Labour has always been about adapting to changing circumstances. That's what we are doing now." |
True. The "R" word was always banned and come to think of it, still is. | True. The "R" word was always banned and come to think of it, still is. |
Euphemisms such as "social justice" are preferred. That and the need to pour cash into the pockets of those thought most likely to spend it. | Euphemisms such as "social justice" are preferred. That and the need to pour cash into the pockets of those thought most likely to spend it. |
Labour has, nonetheless, returned to a place traditionalist Labour MPs find wonderfully comfortable. | Labour has, nonetheless, returned to a place traditionalist Labour MPs find wonderfully comfortable. |
Clinton and Obama | Clinton and Obama |
The proposal for a new top rate of tax on those earning over £150,000 a year is thought likely, by those MPs, to appeal to the British sense of fair-play. | The proposal for a new top rate of tax on those earning over £150,000 a year is thought likely, by those MPs, to appeal to the British sense of fair-play. |
In the meantime, they love the idea to bits. Cabinet ministers seem to laugh off the idea that Labour has returned to its rather withered, socialist roots. | In the meantime, they love the idea to bits. Cabinet ministers seem to laugh off the idea that Labour has returned to its rather withered, socialist roots. |
Perhaps they are simply laughing with joy at the sudden influx of cash into their departmental coffers. | Perhaps they are simply laughing with joy at the sudden influx of cash into their departmental coffers. |
As for the Tories, they seem ideologically comfortable with their return to the principles of fiscal Conservatism. | As for the Tories, they seem ideologically comfortable with their return to the principles of fiscal Conservatism. |
But they are privately admitting to the discomfort of watching Gordon Brown's hyperactivity from the enforced idleness of opposition, while waiting for an instinctive dislike of deep debt, and a yearning for tax cuts in the distant future, to buoy up their position in the opinion polls. | But they are privately admitting to the discomfort of watching Gordon Brown's hyperactivity from the enforced idleness of opposition, while waiting for an instinctive dislike of deep debt, and a yearning for tax cuts in the distant future, to buoy up their position in the opinion polls. |
As one senior member of the shadow cabinet put it: "Remember. Bill Clinton won an election on the issue of the national debt." | As one senior member of the shadow cabinet put it: "Remember. Bill Clinton won an election on the issue of the national debt." |
Maybe so. But Barack Obama won one on the issue of taxing the rich, and borrowing billions to spend refloating the economy. | Maybe so. But Barack Obama won one on the issue of taxing the rich, and borrowing billions to spend refloating the economy. |
This argument has a long, hard distance to run. It won't be easy for any of them. On both sides, they understand that perfectly well. | This argument has a long, hard distance to run. It won't be easy for any of them. On both sides, they understand that perfectly well. |
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