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Hundreds of thousands of people have been wrongly told they have a tax records gap that may cut their pension.Hundreds of thousands of people have been wrongly told they have a tax records gap that may cut their pension.
The error was caused by a glitch in the Revenue and Customs' tax system used by the UK's largest employers.The error was caused by a glitch in the Revenue and Customs' tax system used by the UK's largest employers.
A Revenue spokesman said it did not know how many of the 4.7m notices suggesting people pay £371 had been sent out in error.A Revenue spokesman said it did not know how many of the 4.7m notices suggesting people pay £371 had been sent out in error.
Payroll expert Karen Thomson says the total affected could be 700,000, including many teachers and nurses.Payroll expert Karen Thomson says the total affected could be 700,000, including many teachers and nurses.
Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Money Box programme she said: "On average the Revenue produces four million of these notices a year.Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Money Box programme she said: "On average the Revenue produces four million of these notices a year.
"They have confirmed to us that this year 4.7m will go out to the end of January, so the difference, 700,000 notices, could be incorrect.""They have confirmed to us that this year 4.7m will go out to the end of January, so the difference, 700,000 notices, could be incorrect."
The Revenue challenged this methodology because "there are so many variables" but would not offer an alternative nor confirm or deny that figure.The Revenue challenged this methodology because "there are so many variables" but would not offer an alternative nor confirm or deny that figure.
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The programme was told that in just one local authority thousands of staff have been sent the notice despite the fact that contributions had been correctly deducted from their pay each month.The programme was told that in just one local authority thousands of staff have been sent the notice despite the fact that contributions had been correctly deducted from their pay each month.
Susan Millington, payroll manager at Tameside Borough Council in Manchester, said: "We have had well over a thousand calls. People are very cross.Susan Millington, payroll manager at Tameside Borough Council in Manchester, said: "We have had well over a thousand calls. People are very cross.
"We were told by the Revenue they were aware of the error but they can't do anything to stop it. I just couldn't believe it.""We were told by the Revenue they were aware of the error but they can't do anything to stop it. I just couldn't believe it."
I am really shocked, amazed, it's really worrying Keith Parry, council worker Keith Parry works for Tameside. He said all his colleagues had received the letter which suggests they pay £371 to "make up the shortfall and protect your entitlement to basic State Pension". I am really shocked, amazed, it's really worrying Keith Parry, council worker href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/moneybox/6184433.stm" class="">Send us your comments
Keith Parry works for Tameside. He said all his colleagues had received the letter which suggests they pay £371 to "make up the shortfall and protect your entitlement to basic State Pension".
He rang the helpline and spoke to a Revenue official who "immediately said that it was entirely caused by the Revenue, some sort of computer error and said some two and half million people were involved".He rang the helpline and spoke to a Revenue official who "immediately said that it was entirely caused by the Revenue, some sort of computer error and said some two and half million people were involved".
"I am really shocked, amazed, it's really worrying," he said."I am really shocked, amazed, it's really worrying," he said.
A Revenue spokesman denied that figure was correct and said it was working through the large employers affected and will eventually be sending letters to all those who have received the notice in error.A Revenue spokesman denied that figure was correct and said it was working through the large employers affected and will eventually be sending letters to all those who have received the notice in error.
The problem began in 2004/05 when the Revenue insisted that every employer with more than 250 staff filed its tax data electronically.The problem began in 2004/05 when the Revenue insisted that every employer with more than 250 staff filed its tax data electronically.
Karen Thomson, who has been contacted by many of her members about the problem, said: "Unfortunately Revenue systems were not ready, so not all the returns have been processed and some people have been shown as having no National Insurance contributions on their record.Karen Thomson, who has been contacted by many of her members about the problem, said: "Unfortunately Revenue systems were not ready, so not all the returns have been processed and some people have been shown as having no National Insurance contributions on their record.
"This led to an automated process sending out a notice to tell the individual they had not paid enough National Insurance contributions.""This led to an automated process sending out a notice to tell the individual they had not paid enough National Insurance contributions."
She says anyone who has been in work for the whole of 2005/05 should not pay until the position has been clarified.She says anyone who has been in work for the whole of 2005/05 should not pay until the position has been clarified.
If there is a shortfall, they have until 5 April 2011 to pay the extra contributions. The letters have a helpline number for those who are concerned.If there is a shortfall, they have until 5 April 2011 to pay the extra contributions. The letters have a helpline number for those who are concerned.
BBC Radio 4's Money Box will be broadcast on Saturday, 16 December at 1204 GMT and Sunday, 17 December at 2102 GMT.BBC Radio 4's Money Box will be broadcast on Saturday, 16 December at 1204 GMT and Sunday, 17 December at 2102 GMT.