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| Menezes police 'shouted warnings' | Menezes police 'shouted warnings' |
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| Firearms officers shouted warnings of "armed police" before shooting Jean Charles de Menezes at Stockwell Tube station, an inquest has heard. | Firearms officers shouted warnings of "armed police" before shooting Jean Charles de Menezes at Stockwell Tube station, an inquest has heard. |
| One of the police marksmen in the carriage at the time told the hearing there had been more than one warning. | One of the police marksmen in the carriage at the time told the hearing there had been more than one warning. |
| The officer - known as C5 - said he had been just feet away from the Brazilian as two of his colleagues opened fire. | The officer - known as C5 - said he had been just feet away from the Brazilian as two of his colleagues opened fire. |
| Mr de Menezes, 27, was killed by police who mistook him for one of the failed 21 July 2005 London bombers. | Mr de Menezes, 27, was killed by police who mistook him for one of the failed 21 July 2005 London bombers. |
| He was shot seven times in the head by two marksmen - C2 and C12 - on 22 July 2005. | He was shot seven times in the head by two marksmen - C2 and C12 - on 22 July 2005. |
| 'Black cloud' | 'Black cloud' |
| The issue over whether the officers had warned the Brazilian they were armed police has been hotly contested during the hearing at the Oval cricket ground, south London. | The issue over whether the officers had warned the Brazilian they were armed police has been hotly contested during the hearing at the Oval cricket ground, south London. |
| But C5, a member of Scotland Yard's elite CO19 Specialist Firearms Unit, said: "I heard shouts of 'armed police', I can't say when the shouts were made. | But C5, a member of Scotland Yard's elite CO19 Specialist Firearms Unit, said: "I heard shouts of 'armed police', I can't say when the shouts were made. |
| "There was more than one shout and I know there were shouts as they were forcing Mr de Menezes back." | "There was more than one shout and I know there were shouts as they were forcing Mr de Menezes back." |
| I don't think there was anyone callous enough to think they were going to write themselves out of trouble Firearms officer C5 | I don't think there was anyone callous enough to think they were going to write themselves out of trouble Firearms officer C5 |
| Asked if he could recall if either C2 or C12 had shouted a warning, he said: "I really can't say even that." | Asked if he could recall if either C2 or C12 had shouted a warning, he said: "I really can't say even that." |
| "The likelihood was that it was from them," he added. | "The likelihood was that it was from them," he added. |
| C5 was challenged by Michael Mansfield QC, for the de Menezes family, over whether the warning had actually been issued before the fatal shooting or had been added at a later date. | C5 was challenged by Michael Mansfield QC, for the de Menezes family, over whether the warning had actually been issued before the fatal shooting or had been added at a later date. |
| The firearms officer said: "I remember feeling very sad and there was a black cloud hanging over the team when this news was broken to us. | The firearms officer said: "I remember feeling very sad and there was a black cloud hanging over the team when this news was broken to us. |
| "I don't think there was anyone callous enough to think they were going to write themselves out of trouble." | "I don't think there was anyone callous enough to think they were going to write themselves out of trouble." |
| Definite identification | Definite identification |
| C5, a firearms officer with more than 15 years experience, said his colleagues C2 and C12 were badly shaken after they had shot Mr de Menezes. | C5, a firearms officer with more than 15 years experience, said his colleagues C2 and C12 were badly shaken after they had shot Mr de Menezes. |
| "I remember thinking thank goodness it wasn't me," he said. | "I remember thinking thank goodness it wasn't me," he said. |
| I had confirmation over the radio that the suspect was definitely our man and that he was nervy and twitchy Ralph, firearms officer leader | I had confirmation over the radio that the suspect was definitely our man and that he was nervy and twitchy Ralph, firearms officer leader |
| C2 and C12 have already given evidence. Yesterday, C12 apologised to the de Menezes family. | C2 and C12 have already given evidence. Yesterday, C12 apologised to the de Menezes family. |
| He told the inquest he had heard a surveillance officer positively identify Mr de Menezes as failed suicide bomber Hussain Osman. | He told the inquest he had heard a surveillance officer positively identify Mr de Menezes as failed suicide bomber Hussain Osman. |
| This was backed up by one of the firearm team leaders, who gave evidence on Wednesday. | This was backed up by one of the firearm team leaders, who gave evidence on Wednesday. |
| The officer, codenamed Ralph, said they had received confirmation Mr de Menezes was the right target before the Brazilian electrician reached the Tube station. | The officer, codenamed Ralph, said they had received confirmation Mr de Menezes was the right target before the Brazilian electrician reached the Tube station. |
| "I had confirmation over the radio the suspect was definitely our man and that he was nervy and twitchy," he said. | "I had confirmation over the radio the suspect was definitely our man and that he was nervy and twitchy," he said. |
| Mr Jonathan Hough, counsel to the inquest, said police surveillance officers did not accept using the term "definitely our man". | Mr Jonathan Hough, counsel to the inquest, said police surveillance officers did not accept using the term "definitely our man". |
| Ralph insisted that had been the exact phrase, saying the words had "stuck out". | Ralph insisted that had been the exact phrase, saying the words had "stuck out". |
| Mr Hough asked if he had discussed the shooting with his team in the immediate aftermath. | Mr Hough asked if he had discussed the shooting with his team in the immediate aftermath. |
| "No, not at all," he said. "My concern at the time was purely for their welfare. I knew that would come later. I just wanted them to calm down." | "No, not at all," he said. "My concern at the time was purely for their welfare. I knew that would come later. I just wanted them to calm down." |
| Ralph also defended his colleagues C2 and C12, who he has worked with for more than 10 years. | |
| "They are both married men, family men. They are professional, dedicated, committed," he said. | |
| "And in my view 120% trustworthy and I would gladly work with them any day." | |
| The inquest continues. |