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Data laws hamper MoD prison study | Data laws hamper MoD prison study |
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Data protection rules are preventing the number of military veterans in prison from being discovered, BBC News has learned. | |
Figures suggest 8,500 of the UK's prison population of about 93,000 men and women may have been in the forces. | Figures suggest 8,500 of the UK's prison population of about 93,000 men and women may have been in the forces. |
Probation officers have raised concerns that increasing numbers of former service personnel are going to jail. | Probation officers have raised concerns that increasing numbers of former service personnel are going to jail. |
But the Ministry of Justice said the consent of prisoners involved would be needed to carry out accurate research. | But the Ministry of Justice said the consent of prisoners involved would be needed to carry out accurate research. |
Home Office research in 2001, 2003 and 2004 suggested that between 4% and 6% of the total UK prison population may have once been in the military. | Home Office research in 2001, 2003 and 2004 suggested that between 4% and 6% of the total UK prison population may have once been in the military. |
More recent figures based on a small sample by pressure group Veterans in Prison suggested the figure could be as high as 9%. | More recent figures based on a small sample by pressure group Veterans in Prison suggested the figure could be as high as 9%. |
'Deeply affected' | 'Deeply affected' |
The National Association of Probation Officers warned that could mean as many as 8,500 people, and described the figure as an "alarming" level. | The National Association of Probation Officers warned that could mean as many as 8,500 people, and described the figure as an "alarming" level. |
The anecdotal evidence of former service people who have found themselves behind bars lends credence to fears of a surge of ex-military prisoners. | The anecdotal evidence of former service people who have found themselves behind bars lends credence to fears of a surge of ex-military prisoners. |
Danny, who is not being fully named to protect his identity, was a soldier before he was a prisoner. | Danny, who is not being fully named to protect his identity, was a soldier before he was a prisoner. |
In 2004 he was sent to Iraq, where he had to search would-be suicide bombers. | In 2004 he was sent to Iraq, where he had to search would-be suicide bombers. |
He said: "I've seen the mindless violence meted out to children out there, it affected me quite deeply." | He said: "I've seen the mindless violence meted out to children out there, it affected me quite deeply." |
The MoD hopes to start a new questionnaire for new prisoners | The MoD hopes to start a new questionnaire for new prisoners |
When he returned from Iraq his behaviour became increasingly erratic. | When he returned from Iraq his behaviour became increasingly erratic. |
"I started drinking, taking drugs. I would go out two or three times a day to patrol around my flat," he said. | "I started drinking, taking drugs. I would go out two or three times a day to patrol around my flat," he said. |
Danny then attacked a drug dealer with a gun, and was sent to prison for three years. | Danny then attacked a drug dealer with a gun, and was sent to prison for three years. |
He was later diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and had to wait "a very, very long time" to get specialist treatment, which only came after the Royal British Legion wrote to the prison governor. | He was later diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and had to wait "a very, very long time" to get specialist treatment, which only came after the Royal British Legion wrote to the prison governor. |
In jail he said he met many former soldiers. | In jail he said he met many former soldiers. |
"A startling number, the landing I was on had 120 prisoners, there were eight, nine maybe 10 of us," he said. | "A startling number, the landing I was on had 120 prisoners, there were eight, nine maybe 10 of us," he said. |
Nobody knows how exactly many people like Danny are behind bars across the UK. | Nobody knows how exactly many people like Danny are behind bars across the UK. |
'Lethal force' | 'Lethal force' |
Such a gap in the understanding of the make-up of the prison population has been condemned by Elfyn Llwyd, the Plaid Cymru MP for Meirionydd Nant Conwy. | Such a gap in the understanding of the make-up of the prison population has been condemned by Elfyn Llwyd, the Plaid Cymru MP for Meirionydd Nant Conwy. |
He said: "I'm disappointed the government hasn't been more proactive on this. There is no excuse for not knowing the accurate figures." | He said: "I'm disappointed the government hasn't been more proactive on this. There is no excuse for not knowing the accurate figures." |
The Ministry of Defence said it was attempting to obtain better research, that it hopes to conduct a snapshot survey and start a new electronic questionnaire for new prisoners. | The Ministry of Defence said it was attempting to obtain better research, that it hopes to conduct a snapshot survey and start a new electronic questionnaire for new prisoners. |
But it said there are problems with data protection laws. | But it said there are problems with data protection laws. |
The Ministry of Justice, which has responsibility for prisons, said it was working with the MoD on this issue, but a spokesman said "part of that process involves obtaining consent from the individuals concerned". | The Ministry of Justice, which has responsibility for prisons, said it was working with the MoD on this issue, but a spokesman said "part of that process involves obtaining consent from the individuals concerned". |
Fitting back into civilian life can prove challenging for some ex-military | Fitting back into civilian life can prove challenging for some ex-military |
Obtaining consent could involve thousands of prisoners, but Professor Simon Wessely says concerns about data protection are irrelevant. | Obtaining consent could involve thousands of prisoners, but Professor Simon Wessely says concerns about data protection are irrelevant. |
The director of the Kings Centre for Military Health Research in London said: "No one is asking for confidential medical data." | The director of the Kings Centre for Military Health Research in London said: "No one is asking for confidential medical data." |
Professor Wessely also said that finding out the raw number of ex-military prisoners was not as important as finding out why they are in prison in the first place. | Professor Wessely also said that finding out the raw number of ex-military prisoners was not as important as finding out why they are in prison in the first place. |
He said: "Is it⦠disadvantaged backgrounds, traumatic experiences or more related to alcohol?" | He said: "Is it⦠disadvantaged backgrounds, traumatic experiences or more related to alcohol?" |
Danny believes there are a number of reasons behind the trend. | Danny believes there are a number of reasons behind the trend. |
In his own case he said military training conditioned him to respond in certain ways, and when he was threatened by a drug dealer he instantly responded with "lethal force". | In his own case he said military training conditioned him to respond in certain ways, and when he was threatened by a drug dealer he instantly responded with "lethal force". |
However, he conceded "not all soldiers are angels and a certain percentage would have ended up in prison no matter what their circumstances". | However, he conceded "not all soldiers are angels and a certain percentage would have ended up in prison no matter what their circumstances". |
He added: "I'm not a martyr, I'm not a victim. I can't point the finger at the military." | He added: "I'm not a martyr, I'm not a victim. I can't point the finger at the military." |
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