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| Peers to vote on anti-terror plan | Peers to vote on anti-terror plan |
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| The House of Lords is expected to vote against government plans to extend the terror detention limit to 42 days. | The House of Lords is expected to vote against government plans to extend the terror detention limit to 42 days. |
| Opponents say extending pre-charge detentions from the current 28 days is pointless and will damage civil rights. | Opponents say extending pre-charge detentions from the current 28 days is pointless and will damage civil rights. |
| But ministers say the increasing complexity of terror plots means police need more time to deal with suspects. | But ministers say the increasing complexity of terror plots means police need more time to deal with suspects. |
| Gordon Brown declined to "presume" how the vote would go, saying: "The House of Lords should take the advice of the House of Commons in this matter." | Gordon Brown declined to "presume" how the vote would go, saying: "The House of Lords should take the advice of the House of Commons in this matter." |
| 'Considerable opposition' | 'Considerable opposition' |
| Peers began debating the Counter-Terrorism Bill's detailed committee stage last week and are expected to vote on the 42-days plan later on Monday. | Peers began debating the Counter-Terrorism Bill's detailed committee stage last week and are expected to vote on the 42-days plan later on Monday. |
| It passed through the House of Commons by nine votes in June, with 36 Labour MPs rebelling. | It passed through the House of Commons by nine votes in June, with 36 Labour MPs rebelling. |
| Conservative peer and shadow security minister, Baroness Neville Jones, told the BBC there was concerted opposition to the proposal in the Lords. | Conservative peer and shadow security minister, Baroness Neville Jones, told the BBC there was concerted opposition to the proposal in the Lords. |
| "I think there will be a very considerable opposition in the House of Lords. And it will come from right across the spectrum. | "I think there will be a very considerable opposition in the House of Lords. And it will come from right across the spectrum. |
| "We don't want it." | "We don't want it." |
| We have got to stand up for our basic freedoms Kate Allen, Amnesty International Q&A: Terror plans | We have got to stand up for our basic freedoms Kate Allen, Amnesty International Q&A: Terror plans |
| Last week, the government insisted the 42-days plan would return to the Commons, with Commons Leader Harriet Harman saying it would be dealt with in the "usual way". | Last week, the government insisted the 42-days plan would return to the Commons, with Commons Leader Harriet Harman saying it would be dealt with in the "usual way". |
| If peers reject the plan, ministers can use the Parliament Act to force it into legislation. | If peers reject the plan, ministers can use the Parliament Act to force it into legislation. |
| But BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported last week that the government had decided against this, as it would be time-consuming and controversial. | But BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported last week that the government had decided against this, as it would be time-consuming and controversial. |
| 90 days | 90 days |
| A Home Office spokesman said it would continue to press for the 42-day limit. | A Home Office spokesman said it would continue to press for the 42-day limit. |
| HAVE YOUR SAY It is necessary to protect the country from terrorism but not at the cost of human rights Helen Toalster, Manchester Send us your comments | |
| "The government is determined to give the police the powers they need to tackle terrorism. | "The government is determined to give the police the powers they need to tackle terrorism. |
| "That is why it is right and proper to legislate now to put in place the reserve power to go beyond 28 days if in future there is a clear operational need for it." | "That is why it is right and proper to legislate now to put in place the reserve power to go beyond 28 days if in future there is a clear operational need for it." |
| Meanwhile, the human rights group Amnesty International is to run a "mass sleepwalk" through Leeds, to coincide with the launch of its film Sleepwalk aimed at highlighting what it says is a largely unnoticed erosion of liberties. | Meanwhile, the human rights group Amnesty International is to run a "mass sleepwalk" through Leeds, to coincide with the launch of its film Sleepwalk aimed at highlighting what it says is a largely unnoticed erosion of liberties. |
| UK director Kate Allen said: "There's a real danger that people in Britain are sleepwalking into an assault on our human rights." | UK director Kate Allen said: "There's a real danger that people in Britain are sleepwalking into an assault on our human rights." |
| The government failed in 2006 to extend pre-charge terror detentions to a maximum of 90 days. Instead, the current 28-day limit was agreed as a compromise. | The government failed in 2006 to extend pre-charge terror detentions to a maximum of 90 days. Instead, the current 28-day limit was agreed as a compromise. |
| * BBC Parliament will be broadcasting the House of Lords live on Monday from 2.30pm. You can watch it on Freeview, cable and satellite television. You can watch proceedings in both the Commons and Lords live on the BBC News website. | * BBC Parliament will be broadcasting the House of Lords live on Monday from 2.30pm. You can watch it on Freeview, cable and satellite television. You can watch proceedings in both the Commons and Lords live on the BBC News website. |