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| Musharraf pushes Kashmir proposal | Musharraf pushes Kashmir proposal |
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| Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has suggested Pakistan would give up its claim over disputed Kashmir if India accepted his peace proposals. | Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has suggested Pakistan would give up its claim over disputed Kashmir if India accepted his peace proposals. |
| Gen Musharraf called for a phased withdrawal of troops in the region and self-governance for Kashmiris. | Gen Musharraf called for a phased withdrawal of troops in the region and self-governance for Kashmiris. |
| India responded, saying its position was that the map could not be redrawn but borders could be made irrelevant. | India responded, saying its position was that the map could not be redrawn but borders could be made irrelevant. |
| Both nations claim Kashmir in its entirety. It has sparked two of their three wars since independence in 1947. | Both nations claim Kashmir in its entirety. It has sparked two of their three wars since independence in 1947. |
| Gen Musharraf told NDTV that he had a "four-point solution" to ending the impasse in the disputed region. | |
| The Indian prime minister's position is to make the borders irrelevant, [that] we cannot redraw the map Junior Indian foreign minister Anand Sharma | The Indian prime minister's position is to make the borders irrelevant, [that] we cannot redraw the map Junior Indian foreign minister Anand Sharma |
| Apart from a phased withdrawal of troops and self- governance for Kashmiris, he said there would be no changes in the borders of Kashmir and a joint supervision mechanism involving India, Pakistan and Kashmir. | Apart from a phased withdrawal of troops and self- governance for Kashmiris, he said there would be no changes in the borders of Kashmir and a joint supervision mechanism involving India, Pakistan and Kashmir. |
| Asked whether he was prepared to give up his country's claim on Kashmir, Gen Musharraf said: "We will have to, yes, if this solution comes up." | Asked whether he was prepared to give up his country's claim on Kashmir, Gen Musharraf said: "We will have to, yes, if this solution comes up." |
| The BBC's Barbara Plett in Islamabad says the remarks are being seen as a message to the Indian establishment that Pakistan is prepared for bold moves if Delhi is willing to reciprocate. | |
| Analysts in Pakistan say it is likely that resolving the Kashmir dispute would be very popular among ordinary Pakistanis and would help to isolate the president's Islamist opponents. | |
| It would almost certainly greatly improve economic relations with India, our correspondent says - something analysts believe could help the army retain its position as the dominant power in Pakistan. | It would almost certainly greatly improve economic relations with India, our correspondent says - something analysts believe could help the army retain its position as the dominant power in Pakistan. |
| 'Positive moment' | 'Positive moment' |
| Reacting to the Pakistani president's proposals, India's junior foreign affairs minister Anand Sharma said India's position has been to "make the borders irrelevant". | Reacting to the Pakistani president's proposals, India's junior foreign affairs minister Anand Sharma said India's position has been to "make the borders irrelevant". |
| It is a reasonable position - India must welcome this proposal Analyst C Raja Mohan | It is a reasonable position - India must welcome this proposal Analyst C Raja Mohan |
| "The Indian prime minister's position is to make the borders irrelevant, [that] we cannot redraw the map," he told reporters. | "The Indian prime minister's position is to make the borders irrelevant, [that] we cannot redraw the map," he told reporters. |
| He said India did "not want to remain in conflict" with Pakistan. | He said India did "not want to remain in conflict" with Pakistan. |
| Analyst C Raja Mohan welcomed the proposals describing them as the "closest to India's negotiated position [on Kashmir]". | Analyst C Raja Mohan welcomed the proposals describing them as the "closest to India's negotiated position [on Kashmir]". |
| India and Pakistan have fought two wars over Kashmir | India and Pakistan have fought two wars over Kashmir |
| "It is a reasonable position. India must welcome this proposal. It is a very positive moment shaping up between the two countries," he said. | "It is a reasonable position. India must welcome this proposal. It is a very positive moment shaping up between the two countries," he said. |
| The South Asian rivals have been holding talks since 2004 on a range of issues, including Kashmir. | The South Asian rivals have been holding talks since 2004 on a range of issues, including Kashmir. |
| Relations cooled in July when India blamed Pakistan over bombings in Mumbai in which 185 people were killed, and suspended the peace process. Pakistan denied allegations it had been involved. | Relations cooled in July when India blamed Pakistan over bombings in Mumbai in which 185 people were killed, and suspended the peace process. Pakistan denied allegations it had been involved. |
| But last month, officials from the two sides resumed meetings and agreed to set up a joint panel to share intelligence to help fight terrorism. | But last month, officials from the two sides resumed meetings and agreed to set up a joint panel to share intelligence to help fight terrorism. |
| This is not the first time that Gen Musharraf has made "out of the box" proposals on Kashmir in media interviews. | This is not the first time that Gen Musharraf has made "out of the box" proposals on Kashmir in media interviews. |
| And our correspondent says he has in the past expressed growing frustration at the lack of response in Delhi. | And our correspondent says he has in the past expressed growing frustration at the lack of response in Delhi. |
| In January, he called for an Indian army pull-out from three cities to help find a solution to for the divided region. But Delhi said its army movements would not be dictated by a foreign country. | In January, he called for an Indian army pull-out from three cities to help find a solution to for the divided region. But Delhi said its army movements would not be dictated by a foreign country. |
| In March, Gen Musharraf told the BBC that he expected pressure from US President George W Bush for a solution of the Kashmir dispute. | In March, Gen Musharraf told the BBC that he expected pressure from US President George W Bush for a solution of the Kashmir dispute. |