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Pope Francis has revealed that he sought the help of a psychoanalyst during the 1970s. Pope Francis has revealed that he sought the help of a psychoanalyst for six months at the age of 42, when he was the leader of the Jesuit order in Argentina during the country’s military dictatorship.
The pope shared the details with Dominique Wolton, a French sociologist, during interviews for a book that will be published next week. The pope’s disclosure was made in a book based on 12 in-depth interviews with the French sociologist Dominique Wolton, to be published next week.
He said he visited a psychoanalyst once a week for six months when he was 42. At the time he was Father Jorge Bergoglio and head of Argentina’s Jesuit order during the country’s military dictatorship. Francis said the weekly sessions with the Jewish psychoanalyst “helped me a lot”.
“The psychoanalysis helped me a lot,” he told Wolton for the 432-page book, Pope Francis: Politics and Society. “For six months I went to her home once a week to clarify a few things. She was a doctor and psychoanalyst. She was always there,” he told Wolton for the 432-page book, Pope Francis: Politics and Society.
“I went to her home to clarify a few things. She was always there. Then one day, before she died, she called me. Not to receive the sacraments, because she was Jewish, but for a spiritual dialogue. She was a good person.” “Then one day, before she died, she called me. Not to receive the sacraments, because she was Jewish, but for a spiritual dialogue. She was a good person.”
Now 80, Francis told Wolton he now “felt free”. He said: “I’m in a cage at the Vatican, but not spiritually. Nothing frightens me.” The pope also took aim at priests who “are rigid, and afraid to communicate”. Francis told Wolton that he now felt free. “Of course, I’m in a cage at the Vatican, but not spiritually. Nothing frightens me.”
He also spoke about the influential role women have played in his life, including his mother, two grandmothers and Esther Ballestrino de Careaga, a communist and founder of the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo movement in Buenos Aires who was killed during the dictatorship. The pope also took aim at priests who “are rigid, and afraid to communicate”.
“Those I knew helped me a lot when I needed to clarify things,” he said. The disclosure came when Francis was discussing the role and influence of the “courageous” women in his life, including his mother, his two grandmothers and Esther Ballestrino de Careaga, the communist founder of the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo movement in Buenos Aires, who was killed during the dictatorship.
Robert Mickens, the Rome-based editor of the English language edition of La Croix, the Catholic daily newspaper, said the pope had previously acknowledged that social sciences can benefit human development and that there has been a gradual shift in attitudes within the Catholic church towards psychotherapy since the 1970s. He also spoke of childhood sweethearts and adolescent girlfriends, saying his relationships with women had enriched his life.
“It’s very common in priest formation programmes, especially in the western world, for them to undergo a psychological evaluation before admission to a seminary or diocese,” Mickens said. He told Wolton: “I thank God for having known these true women in my life.” Women saw things differently from men, “and it is important to listen to both”, he said.
“There’s a recognition that social sciences can help unearth issues that need to be dealt with. But what is still part of the mindset among some people is that those who have to get treatment are somehow ‘weak’, therefore to hear that the pope needed help is what makes [the revelations] eye-popping and headline-grabbing.” The Jesuit tradition is known to value psychoanalysis, with many regarding self-awareness and introspection as being complementary to spirituality.
Robert Mickens, the Rome-based editor of the English language edition of La Croix, the Catholic daily newspaper, said Francis had previously acknowledged that social sciences could benefit human development.
“There has been a gradual shift in attitudes within the Catholic church towards psychotherapy since the 1970s,” Mickens said. “It’s very common in priest formation programmes, especially in the western world, for them to undergo a psychological evaluation before admission to a seminary or diocese. There’s a recognition that social sciences can help unearth issues that need to be dealt with.”
The pope’s “eye-popping” disclosures could challenge the perception among some people that those who sought treatment were weak, he said.
At the time of his sessions in 1978 or 1979, tensions over the leadership of Jorge Bergoglio – as Pope Francis was then known – was high among Argentina’s Jesuits.
He had earlier been accused of effectively delivering two fellow priests to the military authorities in 1976 when he refused to publicly endorse their controversial social work in the slums of Buenos Aires.
Argentina’s “dirty war” was over by the time of Bergoglio’s psychotherapy, but the military dictatorship was still in place.
However, there was continuing controversy over his divisive leadership. During his six years as provincial superior, from 1973-79, he upset some with his determination to impose a fresh direction and purpose.
At the time he sought help, “he was coming to the end of his time as provincial leader, and he was probably aware of a whole lot of issues”, said Austen Ivereigh, the author of The Great Reformer: Francis and the Making of a Radical Pope. “But it’s also possible he sought help in dealing with issues much earlier in his life.”
In his conversations with Wolton, Francis said European countries exploited Africa in the colonial era, and that although Europe had “important Christian roots … they are not the only ones. There are others that cannot be denied.”
Abortion, he said, was a “grave sin, it’s the murder of an innocent”. And while he insisted marriage was between a man and a woman – “We cannot change it. This is the nature of things” – the pope acknowledged the existence of same-sex civil unions.