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Theresa May urged to adopt Labour-style approach to Brexit - politics live | Theresa May urged to adopt Labour-style approach to Brexit - politics live |
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Lisa O'Carroll | |
The former Irish taoiseach and former EU ambassador John Bruton told a gathering at the Irish embassy last night that he believed the EU divorce bill was designed to tease out Britain’s financial red lines before they get down to substantive talks. | |
The one thing the UK has is money – if it puts out its card on money, it has no other negotiating [position]. | |
The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, put the EU on a potential collision course with Theresa May earlier this year by insisting it made “no sense” to negotiate a future UK-EU relationship without first reaching agreement on the UK’s financial commitment to the EU.The bill has been estimated at anything between £50bn and £85bn. | |
Speaking after giving the Henry Grattan speech at the Irish embassy on Monday, Bruton also told the audience that he had been told that Boris Johnson was being obstructive for no reason in day to day relations with the EU. | |
“I think the UK is being obstructive .... a lot of this is in private so there is no electoral gain for Boris Johnson or anybody else,” he said. He said he thought the attitude had to change because “failure in this negotiation is going to be very damaging for everyone.” | |
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Heather Stewart | |
Listening to Michael Gove talking about a collaborative approach to Brexit on Today this morning I was reminded that in his original Vote Leave victory speech on the morning after the referendum result was declared in 2015, he called for representatives of “different political traditions” to be involved in shaping what he called Britain’s “gradual divergence” from the rest of the EU. | |
“It’s important that representatives from every part of the United Kingdom, every community, every religion and different political traditions are involved in shaping our future, and we should draw on wisdom from great minds outside politics”, he said at the time. | |
Many of Theresa May’s colleagues complained over the ensuing year that she wasn’t terribly good at drawing on wisdom from within her own cabinet, let alone outside politics. Perhaps the new parliamentary arithmetic will force her into adopting something more like the approach her old rival Gove favoured at the outset? | |
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Gove says government must proceed with 'maximum possible consensus' on Brexit | |
Here is the key quote from Michael Gove’s interview on the Today programme earlier. Gove, the new environment secretary and one of the leaders of the Vote Leave campaign, said the government should proceed with the “maximum possible consensus’” on Brexit. | |
It’s also the case that we need to recognise that we as Conservatives were not returned with a majority. And that means we need to proceed with the maximum possible consensus and we also need to ensure that the concerns of people who voted remain - many of whom now actually want us to press ahead with leaving the European union as quickly and in as orderly fashion as possible - we need to make sure that their concerns are part of our conversation. | |
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SNP shelves fundraising for second independence referendum campaign | |
Severin Carrell | |
The Scottish National party has withdrawn a £1m fundraising appeal to help fight a second Scottish independence referendum, the Herald has reported, after its heavy election defeats on Friday. | |
The SNP launched the ref.scot campaign when Nicola Sturgeon, the first minister and SNP leader, launched her quest for a second independence vote by spring 2019. That goal has now been dropped, and Sturgeon admitted on Friday she had to re-evaluate her referendum strategy after the loss of 21 SNP seats in the general election. | |
The SNP’s remaining 35 MPs have to elect a new Westminster leader after Angus Robertson, who previously held the role, lost his Moray seat to the Tories. | |
With that vote taking place tomorrow, four MPs have put their names forward: Drew Hendry, the former leader of Highland council; Ian Blackford, a former SNP party treasurer; Joanna Cherry QC, an advocate; and Tommy Sheppard, a former comedy club director and previously deputy leader of Hackney council’s Labour group. | |
Robertson remains the SNP’s deputy leader despite losing his seat. The party’s rules only require the deputy leader to be an party member. | |
The disappearance of the fundraising appeal, which had raised £482,000 with 10 days of its 100-day operation still to go, was first spotted by the Times reporter Daniel Sanderson on Friday morning. | |
Interesting - the SNP appears to have ditched its crowdfunder from its indyref2 website. First screengrab from May 13. #ge2017 pic.twitter.com/2xBKbUH6GY | |
The Herald reports today that the SNP confirmed the appeal had been taken down, although the campaign website remained online. “Our fundraising efforts were focused on the general election,” a spokesman said. | |
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Inflation up to 2.9%, a four-year high | |
Inflation has gone up to 2.9%, a four-year high. | |
That increase is higher than expected, and bad news for living standards, obviously. | |
My colleague Graeme Wearden has more on his business live blog. | |
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The BBC’s Norman Smith is in Downing Street for the cabinet meeting. And he is following the rule that you can never go wrong with a cat pic on Twitter. | The BBC’s Norman Smith is in Downing Street for the cabinet meeting. And he is following the rule that you can never go wrong with a cat pic on Twitter. |
Morning folks. Those cabinet meetings are just so dull. Brexit.. blah blah.. Brexit blah... #LazontheLoose pic.twitter.com/smhpbqy3jB | Morning folks. Those cabinet meetings are just so dull. Brexit.. blah blah.. Brexit blah... #LazontheLoose pic.twitter.com/smhpbqy3jB |
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The cabinet is meeting this morning. There was a meeting of the political cabinet yesterday, but this is the first meeting of the new cabinet devoted to government business. It is due to start at 9.30am. | The cabinet is meeting this morning. There was a meeting of the political cabinet yesterday, but this is the first meeting of the new cabinet devoted to government business. It is due to start at 9.30am. |
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Hague urges May to adopt Labour-style approach to Brexit and to set up cross-party commission | Hague urges May to adopt Labour-style approach to Brexit and to set up cross-party commission |
In his interviews this morning Michael Gove, the new environment secretary and one of the leaders of the Vote Leave campaign, stressed the importance of achieving a consensus on Brexit (see 8.12am) - although he said almost nothing about what this might mean in practice. | In his interviews this morning Michael Gove, the new environment secretary and one of the leaders of the Vote Leave campaign, stressed the importance of achieving a consensus on Brexit (see 8.12am) - although he said almost nothing about what this might mean in practice. |
For a much clearer idea of what this might mean, do read William Hague’s column in the Daily Telegraph today (paywall). Hague is a former Tory leader and a former foreign secretary. He backed remain in the EU referendum, but he won the Tory leadership in 1997 because he was seen as a Eurosceptic and he probably has more clout with hardline Tory leavers than many of his remain colleagues. | For a much clearer idea of what this might mean, do read William Hague’s column in the Daily Telegraph today (paywall). Hague is a former Tory leader and a former foreign secretary. He backed remain in the EU referendum, but he won the Tory leadership in 1997 because he was seen as a Eurosceptic and he probably has more clout with hardline Tory leavers than many of his remain colleagues. |
Essentially Hague is backing calls for a cross-party commission to take charge of Brexit. This is an idea also being pushed by, among others, Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish first minister (here), and Yvette Cooper, the senior Labour MP (here, in the Guardian). | Essentially Hague is backing calls for a cross-party commission to take charge of Brexit. This is an idea also being pushed by, among others, Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish first minister (here), and Yvette Cooper, the senior Labour MP (here, in the Guardian). |
But the Hague argument is quite detailed. Here are the main points. | But the Hague argument is quite detailed. Here are the main points. |
Hague says Theresa May needs to adopt a new approach to Brexit because a minimalist one is risky. | |
In the worst-case scenario, we end up with a poor Brexit deal rejected in parliament but with no alternative available, presided over by ministers suffering mounting public and business dissatisfaction, leading to the election of a Labour government led, in effect, by Marxists. | In the worst-case scenario, we end up with a poor Brexit deal rejected in parliament but with no alternative available, presided over by ministers suffering mounting public and business dissatisfaction, leading to the election of a Labour government led, in effect, by Marxists. |
Faced with such dangers, sitting tight is not an option. Napoleon’s maxim that “the side that stays within its fortifications is beaten” applies fully to this situation. Breaking out of these problems will require a change both of style and substance, treating last week’s terrible outcome as an opportunity and a duty to tackle intractable issues in new ways. | Faced with such dangers, sitting tight is not an option. Napoleon’s maxim that “the side that stays within its fortifications is beaten” applies fully to this situation. Breaking out of these problems will require a change both of style and substance, treating last week’s terrible outcome as an opportunity and a duty to tackle intractable issues in new ways. |
He says May should make the economy, not controlling immigration, the priority in the Brexit talks. | |
Change the emphasis given to the UK’s objectives, with a clear indication that economic growth will have priority over controlling the number of people entering the country for work. This would show a readiness to accommodate the views of Scottish Conservatives, business organisations and, to some degree, opposition parties, within certain parameters. | Change the emphasis given to the UK’s objectives, with a clear indication that economic growth will have priority over controlling the number of people entering the country for work. This would show a readiness to accommodate the views of Scottish Conservatives, business organisations and, to some degree, opposition parties, within certain parameters. |
Hague does not put it like this, but essentially he is urging May to adopt a Labour-style approach to Brexit. Labour’s Brexit policy is in some respects ambiguous, and in many respects very similar to the government’s, but one key difference is that the party says the economy, not curbing immigration, must come first. It is calling for a “jobs-first Brexit”, a phrase Jeremy Corbyn used three times when he appeared on the Andrew Marr Show on Sunday. | Hague does not put it like this, but essentially he is urging May to adopt a Labour-style approach to Brexit. Labour’s Brexit policy is in some respects ambiguous, and in many respects very similar to the government’s, but one key difference is that the party says the economy, not curbing immigration, must come first. It is calling for a “jobs-first Brexit”, a phrase Jeremy Corbyn used three times when he appeared on the Andrew Marr Show on Sunday. |
Hague suggests that that UK should stay in the European Economic Area (ie, adopt the Norway option) for two years after Brexit, as part of the transition. | Hague suggests that that UK should stay in the European Economic Area (ie, adopt the Norway option) for two years after Brexit, as part of the transition. |
He suggests the UK should grant free movement to EU citizens after Brexit if they have a job. This would be one stop short of full free movement, he says. | |
We can negotiate the “bold and ambitious free trade agreement” that the British people would like to see if we take a pragmatic approach to how we use the control we will have won back. | We can negotiate the “bold and ambitious free trade agreement” that the British people would like to see if we take a pragmatic approach to how we use the control we will have won back. |
There are various ways of doing this. One of them – put forward in this column before – is to bring in work permits for workers from the EU but agree to grant them to anyone who gets a job in Britain, unless they have a criminal record, or extremist connections. They would not receive any support if out of work, and the same rights would have to apply to British citizens throughout the EU. This approach, just one significant step short of free movement, would set the stage for a promising trade negotiation, and avoid damaging our own industries relying on European workers, from banking to fruit picking. | There are various ways of doing this. One of them – put forward in this column before – is to bring in work permits for workers from the EU but agree to grant them to anyone who gets a job in Britain, unless they have a criminal record, or extremist connections. They would not receive any support if out of work, and the same rights would have to apply to British citizens throughout the EU. This approach, just one significant step short of free movement, would set the stage for a promising trade negotiation, and avoid damaging our own industries relying on European workers, from banking to fruit picking. |
He calls for a cross-party commission to help decide who the government implements Brexit. | He calls for a cross-party commission to help decide who the government implements Brexit. |
Call in the CBI, the Institute of Directors, the British Chambers of Commerce, the Federation of Small Businesses, the TUC, the first ministers of the devolved governments, and the leaders of all the opposition parties – yes, even Corbyn – leading MPs of all parties, and say: “If you are willing to discuss how to make this work within these parameters, come in and we will be open to your views. There isn’t a perfect solution, but on how to conduct a transitional period and how to help the economy through Brexit as a priority we will work with you. Otherwise, we will just have to try to do this without you.” | Call in the CBI, the Institute of Directors, the British Chambers of Commerce, the Federation of Small Businesses, the TUC, the first ministers of the devolved governments, and the leaders of all the opposition parties – yes, even Corbyn – leading MPs of all parties, and say: “If you are willing to discuss how to make this work within these parameters, come in and we will be open to your views. There isn’t a perfect solution, but on how to conduct a transitional period and how to help the economy through Brexit as a priority we will work with you. Otherwise, we will just have to try to do this without you.” |
Hague admits that getting consensus would be difficult. But he says that, even if the government fails to obtain agreement, it will get credit for changing “both the style and the substance” of its approach. | Hague admits that getting consensus would be difficult. But he says that, even if the government fails to obtain agreement, it will get credit for changing “both the style and the substance” of its approach. |
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Q: Will you guarantee that farmers will keep the funding they get from EU subsidies to the end of this parliament, to 2022? | Q: Will you guarantee that farmers will keep the funding they get from EU subsidies to the end of this parliament, to 2022? |
Yes, says Gove. He says that was a manifesto commitment. | Yes, says Gove. He says that was a manifesto commitment. |
Q: Will farmers still be able to hire foreign workers? | Q: Will farmers still be able to hire foreign workers? |
Gove says he wants to listen to what the farming sector says about this. | Gove says he wants to listen to what the farming sector says about this. |
Q: You have generally voted against measures to combat climate change? | Q: You have generally voted against measures to combat climate change? |
Gove says that is a misrepresentation. | Gove says that is a misrepresentation. |
Mishal Husain cites two examples of votes. | Mishal Husain cites two examples of votes. |
Gove says he was a member of a government and voted with the party whip. | Gove says he was a member of a government and voted with the party whip. |
He says before he became a minister he did argue for measures to combat climate change. | He says before he became a minister he did argue for measures to combat climate change. |
He says that in the Times he wrote in favour of Roger Harrabin, the BBC’s environment analyst, praising his work in raising awareness about climate change. | He says that in the Times he wrote in favour of Roger Harrabin, the BBC’s environment analyst, praising his work in raising awareness about climate change. |
Q: How did it feel to be called back by Theresa May less than a year after she sacked you? | Q: How did it feel to be called back by Theresa May less than a year after she sacked you? |
Gove says he is a “great fan” of May. He says as home secretary she did a lot to tackle Islamist extremism. | Gove says he is a “great fan” of May. He says as home secretary she did a lot to tackle Islamist extremism. |
Q: You accused May of “failing to drain the swamp” in relation to extremism. | Q: You accused May of “failing to drain the swamp” in relation to extremism. |
No I didn’t, says Gove. | No I didn’t, says Gove. |
Q: That is what you briefed the Times. | Q: That is what you briefed the Times. |
Gove says that is a mischaracterisation. | Gove says that is a mischaracterisation. |
He praises May for tacking the factors that encourage extremism, the “upstream” issues. | He praises May for tacking the factors that encourage extremism, the “upstream” issues. |
And that’s it. | And that’s it. |
I will post a summary of all the Gove interviews soon. | I will post a summary of all the Gove interviews soon. |
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Q: The DUP want something in return for backing the Tories. They want to avoid customs checks on the Irish border. Could we stay in the customs union? | Q: The DUP want something in return for backing the Tories. They want to avoid customs checks on the Irish border. Could we stay in the customs union? |
Gove says the DUP wants a stable government. | Gove says the DUP wants a stable government. |
The talks with the DUP are about ensuring this. | The talks with the DUP are about ensuring this. |
As for the border, he says there are a number of “pragmatic steps” that can be taken to ensure trade is as frictionless as possible. | As for the border, he says there are a number of “pragmatic steps” that can be taken to ensure trade is as frictionless as possible. |
Q: So you think that can be achieved by the government’s plans? | Q: So you think that can be achieved by the government’s plans? |
Yes, says Gove. | Yes, says Gove. |
Q: The DUP want to end the bedroom tax and keep the triple lock. Will the price of the pact with them be ending austerity? | Q: The DUP want to end the bedroom tax and keep the triple lock. Will the price of the pact with them be ending austerity? |
Gove does not accept the premise of the question. He says he wants to relieve the next generation from the burden of debt. | Gove does not accept the premise of the question. He says he wants to relieve the next generation from the burden of debt. |
He says the phrases austerity and cuts programme come from “a part of the political lexicon” (ie, they are Labour terms, he is saying). | He says the phrases austerity and cuts programme come from “a part of the political lexicon” (ie, they are Labour terms, he is saying). |
He says public spending has to be kept at a sustainable level. | He says public spending has to be kept at a sustainable level. |
But the government has to respond to “legitimate public concerns” about public services being funded properly. | But the government has to respond to “legitimate public concerns” about public services being funded properly. |
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Q: But what does this mean in practice? What will change from the Lancaster House speech? | Q: But what does this mean in practice? What will change from the Lancaster House speech? |
Gove says May made it clear she was determined to honour the result of the referendum. | Gove says May made it clear she was determined to honour the result of the referendum. |
But we know have to think about what comes next. | But we know have to think about what comes next. |
He says he is now environment secretary. As we leave the common agricultural policy, we need to ensure we maintain high-quality environmental protection. | He says he is now environment secretary. As we leave the common agricultural policy, we need to ensure we maintain high-quality environmental protection. |
Q: William Hague has proposed a cross-party Brexit commission. Do you back that? | Q: William Hague has proposed a cross-party Brexit commission. Do you back that? |
Gove says there is already a cross-party Brexit committee in the Commons. He used to sit on it. | Gove says there is already a cross-party Brexit committee in the Commons. He used to sit on it. |
He says he does not want to endorse specific ideas. | He says he does not want to endorse specific ideas. |
Q: So you would oppose this idea? | Q: So you would oppose this idea? |
Gove says this idea is Hague’s copyright. | Gove says this idea is Hague’s copyright. |
He says the Brexit department has been talking to the widest possible group of people. | He says the Brexit department has been talking to the widest possible group of people. |
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