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Young people who carry knives will be made to visit hospitals where stabbing victims are treated, in a bid to shock them into changing their behaviour.Young people who carry knives will be made to visit hospitals where stabbing victims are treated, in a bid to shock them into changing their behaviour.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said seeing "gruesome" injuries would be a tougher deterrent than sending all knife carriers in England and Wales to jail.Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said seeing "gruesome" injuries would be a tougher deterrent than sending all knife carriers in England and Wales to jail.
A spate of stabbings was making people "nervous" about going out, she said.A spate of stabbings was making people "nervous" about going out, she said.
The Tories said more knife carriers should go to prison and the Lib Dems called Ms Smith's plans "half-baked".The Tories said more knife carriers should go to prison and the Lib Dems called Ms Smith's plans "half-baked".
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Police in Scotland are expected to make an announcement on anti-knife measures on Monday.
The home secretary unveiled her plans for England and Wales on Sunday, hours after a man in his 30s was stabbed to death at a pub in Bolton.The home secretary unveiled her plans for England and Wales on Sunday, hours after a man in his 30s was stabbed to death at a pub in Bolton.
Another man is in a serious condition in hospital after suffering multiple stab wounds at Scotland's largest music festival, T in the Park, in Balado, Perth and Kinross.Another man is in a serious condition in hospital after suffering multiple stab wounds at Scotland's largest music festival, T in the Park, in Balado, Perth and Kinross.
And on Thursday, four men were stabbed to death in London and a fifth died after a knife attack in West Bromwich.And on Thursday, four men were stabbed to death in London and a fifth died after a knife attack in West Bromwich.
I'm concerned about the way in which those who are carrying knives and those who are the victims appear to be getting younger Home Secretary Jacqui Smith Man stabbed to death on night outHow common is knife crime?I'm concerned about the way in which those who are carrying knives and those who are the victims appear to be getting younger Home Secretary Jacqui Smith Man stabbed to death on night outHow common is knife crime?
Mrs Smith's proposals will see young people caught carrying knives being made to go to accident and emergency wards, to see the consequences of stabbings.Mrs Smith's proposals will see young people caught carrying knives being made to go to accident and emergency wards, to see the consequences of stabbings.
They will meet victims' families and make prison visits to people convicted of knife offences.They will meet victims' families and make prison visits to people convicted of knife offences.
The measures, overseen by senior Metropolitan Police officer Alf Hitchcock, will focus on a number of areas including London, the West Midlands, Greater Manchester, Merseyside, Lancashire, Essex and the Thames Valley.The measures, overseen by senior Metropolitan Police officer Alf Hitchcock, will focus on a number of areas including London, the West Midlands, Greater Manchester, Merseyside, Lancashire, Essex and the Thames Valley.
'Serious trouble''Serious trouble'
Ms Smith told the BBC: "I'm concerned particularly about the way in which those who are carrying knives and those who are the victims appear to be getting younger."Ms Smith told the BBC: "I'm concerned particularly about the way in which those who are carrying knives and those who are the victims appear to be getting younger."
She said the hospital visits would "make people realise that there is nothing glamorous about carrying a knife, it doesn't help you to be more safe and you will end up in serious trouble.She said the hospital visits would "make people realise that there is nothing glamorous about carrying a knife, it doesn't help you to be more safe and you will end up in serious trouble.
"I just think that's a better way of making people face up to the consequences of action and making them more likely not to carry knives again in the future.""I just think that's a better way of making people face up to the consequences of action and making them more likely not to carry knives again in the future."
I also think there should have been a shock tactic, under certain circumstances, of jailing youths who are carrying knives Barbara Dunne,Mother of stabbing victim Knife fears out on the townI also think there should have been a shock tactic, under certain circumstances, of jailing youths who are carrying knives Barbara Dunne,Mother of stabbing victim Knife fears out on the town
Earlier she told Sky News it was "tougher" than imprisonment to make people "face up to the sorts of implications of young people carrying knives on our streets".Earlier she told Sky News it was "tougher" than imprisonment to make people "face up to the sorts of implications of young people carrying knives on our streets".
Conservative home affairs spokesman David Ruffley said a lack of custodial sentences for knife carriers "simply doesn't send out the right message".Conservative home affairs spokesman David Ruffley said a lack of custodial sentences for knife carriers "simply doesn't send out the right message".
He added that the government's plans were "Ok as far as it goes", but that there was also a need for "more cops on the street".He added that the government's plans were "Ok as far as it goes", but that there was also a need for "more cops on the street".
Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Chris Huhne described Ms Smith's plans as "half-baked", and said the government had been in denial about the scale of the knife crime problem.Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Chris Huhne described Ms Smith's plans as "half-baked", and said the government had been in denial about the scale of the knife crime problem.
According to the British Crime Survey (BCS), overall violent crime has decreased by 41% since a peak in 1995.According to the British Crime Survey (BCS), overall violent crime has decreased by 41% since a peak in 1995.
Jacqui Smith says she is concerned by the young age of knife carriersJacqui Smith says she is concerned by the young age of knife carriers
Knives are used in about 8% of violent incidents, according to the BCS, a level that has largely remained the same during the past decade.Knives are used in about 8% of violent incidents, according to the BCS, a level that has largely remained the same during the past decade.
But the BCS figures do not include under-16s, something which Ms Smith recently announced would change.But the BCS figures do not include under-16s, something which Ms Smith recently announced would change.
She said on Sunday: "I think all of us understand, whatever top-level statistics might say, that this [knife crime] is a serious problem - that even if it isn't happening down your street makes you feel nervous and unconfident - and that's what we need to address".She said on Sunday: "I think all of us understand, whatever top-level statistics might say, that this [knife crime] is a serious problem - that even if it isn't happening down your street makes you feel nervous and unconfident - and that's what we need to address".
Anne Oakes-Odger, whose son Westley was stabbed to death in 2005, expressed doubts to BBC Radio 5 Live about the shock tactics.Anne Oakes-Odger, whose son Westley was stabbed to death in 2005, expressed doubts to BBC Radio 5 Live about the shock tactics.
"It all sounds rather cumbersome and not particularly cost-effective and I can't help but wonder how the actual stab victims would feel about that [hospital visits]," she said."It all sounds rather cumbersome and not particularly cost-effective and I can't help but wonder how the actual stab victims would feel about that [hospital visits]," she said.
HAVE YOUR SAYI certainly don't think it's a bad idea, but in general it's an attempt to treat a symptom instead of a causeMike, CambridgeSend us your commentsHAVE YOUR SAYI certainly don't think it's a bad idea, but in general it's an attempt to treat a symptom instead of a causeMike, CambridgeSend us your comments
Ms Smith has written to all 43 chief constables in England and Wales, reminding them of their powers to require pubs and clubs that are associated with knife or gun problems to search customers on entry.Ms Smith has written to all 43 chief constables in England and Wales, reminding them of their powers to require pubs and clubs that are associated with knife or gun problems to search customers on entry.
Ministers are also looking at how hospitals might work to help the police identify offenders without breaking patient confidentiality.Ministers are also looking at how hospitals might work to help the police identify offenders without breaking patient confidentiality.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said on Friday that recent knife deaths were "shocking and tragic". A cross-government youth crime plan is to be published on Tuesday.Prime Minister Gordon Brown said on Friday that recent knife deaths were "shocking and tragic". A cross-government youth crime plan is to be published on Tuesday.
A Police Service of Northern Ireland spokeswoman said there were "no plans" to bring in hospital visits like those announced for England and Wales.A Police Service of Northern Ireland spokeswoman said there were "no plans" to bring in hospital visits like those announced for England and Wales.