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| Robinson future remains in doubt | Robinson future remains in doubt |
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| The fate of England's beleaguered head coach Andy Robinson is still unclear after further talks on Tuesday. | The fate of England's beleaguered head coach Andy Robinson is still unclear after further talks on Tuesday. |
| Rugby Football Union elite director Rob Andrew left Twickenham just before 1500 GMT without comment although he did return at around 1640 GMT. | Rugby Football Union elite director Rob Andrew left Twickenham just before 1500 GMT without comment although he did return at around 1640 GMT. |
| Robinson is expected to step down but it is believed that negotiations are continuing over his severance deal. | Robinson is expected to step down but it is believed that negotiations are continuing over his severance deal. |
| He was involved in talks with Andrew on Monday although it is not known if he was part of Tuesday's discussions. | He was involved in talks with Andrew on Monday although it is not known if he was part of Tuesday's discussions. |
| Interview: Former England coach Dick Best | Interview: Former England coach Dick Best |
| It is understood that RFU chief Francis Baron, elite director Rob Andrew and chairman Martyn Thomas asked Robinson to resign but he wants to stay on. | It is understood that RFU chief Francis Baron, elite director Rob Andrew and chairman Martyn Thomas asked Robinson to resign but he wants to stay on. |
| The RFU, however, is prepared to force Robinson out if needs be. | The RFU, however, is prepared to force Robinson out if needs be. |
| It is thought that Robinson will be offered the same compensation package whether he resigns or if he is sacked. | It is thought that Robinson will be offered the same compensation package whether he resigns or if he is sacked. |
| 606: DEBATE Just like his team, Robinson is hanging on to his job by the skin off his teeth TT 606: Have your say | |
| Robinson had been due to take part in three days of World Cup meetings starting on Tuesday in Paris but team manager Viv Brown has gone instead. | Robinson had been due to take part in three days of World Cup meetings starting on Tuesday in Paris but team manager Viv Brown has gone instead. |
| England lost for the eighth time in nine matches on Saturday when they were beaten 25-14 by South Africa. | England lost for the eighth time in nine matches on Saturday when they were beaten 25-14 by South Africa. |
| World Cup-winning captain Martin Johnson is understood to be first choice to step into the breach. | World Cup-winning captain Martin Johnson is understood to be first choice to step into the breach. |
| If he is not available, former Wasps and Ireland coach Warren Gatland or ex-South Africa coach Nick Mallett will come into the frame. | If he is not available, former Wasps and Ireland coach Warren Gatland or ex-South Africa coach Nick Mallett will come into the frame. |
| England have lost 13 of their 22 Tests under Robinson - including three of this month's four autumn internationals - and have slumped to seventh in the IRB world rankings. | England have lost 13 of their 22 Tests under Robinson - including three of this month's four autumn internationals - and have slumped to seventh in the IRB world rankings. |
| It is time for a change in the coach - not because of the last four games, but because of the last two years Former England captain Will Carling | It is time for a change in the coach - not because of the last four games, but because of the last two years Former England captain Will Carling |
| Robinson's team were booed off the pitch by the Twickenham crowd for the second time in three matches after their 25-14 defeat against South Africa on Saturday. | Robinson's team were booed off the pitch by the Twickenham crowd for the second time in three matches after their 25-14 defeat against South Africa on Saturday. |
| Former Bath coach Robinson was assistant coach to Sir Clive Woodward and a key part of the coaching team which won the World Cup in 2003. | Former Bath coach Robinson was assistant coach to Sir Clive Woodward and a key part of the coaching team which won the World Cup in 2003. |
| And when Woodward resigned in September 2004, Robinson was the RFU's unanimous choice to take over. | And when Woodward resigned in September 2004, Robinson was the RFU's unanimous choice to take over. |
| The 42-year-old, who has a contract until June 2008, has led England to two consecutive fourth place finishes in the Six Nations, and has won just one away match. | The 42-year-old, who has a contract until June 2008, has led England to two consecutive fourth place finishes in the Six Nations, and has won just one away match. |
| The RFU conducted a review after the 2006 Six Nations, and Robinson survived despite assistant coaches Phil Larder, Dave Alred and Joe Lydon all losing their jobs. | The RFU conducted a review after the 2006 Six Nations, and Robinson survived despite assistant coaches Phil Larder, Dave Alred and Joe Lydon all losing their jobs. |
| Brian Ashton (attack), John Wells (forwards) and Mike Ford (defence) have since been appointed under Robinson, while Rob Andrew has taken on the elite director of rugby role. | Brian Ashton (attack), John Wells (forwards) and Mike Ford (defence) have since been appointed under Robinson, while Rob Andrew has taken on the elite director of rugby role. |
| But the changes have failed to spark a revival in England's fortunes, and former England captain Will Carling said Robinson would have to go. | But the changes have failed to spark a revival in England's fortunes, and former England captain Will Carling said Robinson would have to go. |
| ANDY ROBINSON FACTFILE 1964: Born Taunton, 3 April1986: Joins Bath1988: Makes England debut against Australia1992: Leads Bath to league and cup double in first season as captain1997: Appointed Bath coach after resignation of Brian Ashton1997: Sir Clive Woodward installed as his assistant at Bath1998: Leads Bath to Heineken Cup glory with a 19-18 win over Brive2000: Appointed assistant England coach2000: Named as assistant coach for 2001 Lions tour to Australia2003: Helps England secure the World CupOctober 2004: Appointed England coach | ANDY ROBINSON FACTFILE 1964: Born Taunton, 3 April1986: Joins Bath1988: Makes England debut against Australia1992: Leads Bath to league and cup double in first season as captain1997: Appointed Bath coach after resignation of Brian Ashton1997: Sir Clive Woodward installed as his assistant at Bath1998: Leads Bath to Heineken Cup glory with a 19-18 win over Brive2000: Appointed assistant England coach2000: Named as assistant coach for 2001 Lions tour to Australia2003: Helps England secure the World CupOctober 2004: Appointed England coach |
| "I'm an England fan and after the four games in November, I haven't witnessed a lot of improvement," he told Sportsweek. | "I'm an England fan and after the four games in November, I haven't witnessed a lot of improvement," he told Sportsweek. |
| "I think it is time for a change in the coach - not because of the last four games, or even the last two games, but because of the last two years. | "I think it is time for a change in the coach - not because of the last four games, or even the last two games, but because of the last two years. |
| "If you look at England over the last two years, we don't seem to have any combinations that are working and Andy Robinson has to take responsibility for that." | "If you look at England over the last two years, we don't seem to have any combinations that are working and Andy Robinson has to take responsibility for that." |
| But Carling said there needed to be much greater clarity in terms of the specific job description of anyone brought in to replace Robinson. | But Carling said there needed to be much greater clarity in terms of the specific job description of anyone brought in to replace Robinson. |
| "I don't believe we need another coach - we need a manager," said Carling. | "I don't believe we need another coach - we need a manager," said Carling. |
| "We need someone who can get the environment right and I think Martin Johnson would be good for that. | "We need someone who can get the environment right and I think Martin Johnson would be good for that. |
| "But whether he wants to step straight into that is another thing. He's got some superb qualities, but it depends what the remit of the job is." | "But whether he wants to step straight into that is another thing. He's got some superb qualities, but it depends what the remit of the job is." |
| Johnson has gone on record as saying Robinson should be replaced. | Johnson has gone on record as saying Robinson should be replaced. |