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| Russia hearing live: FBI director Comey says no information to confirm Trump's wiretap claims | Russia hearing live: FBI director Comey says no information to confirm Trump's wiretap claims |
| (35 minutes later) | |
| 6.56pm GMT | |
| 18:56 | |
| Heck, the DC Democrat, calls the facts of the FBI investigation “dirty” and “sleazy.” He says that Trump is historically compromised. | |
| “We’ve heard nothing but terribly disturbing evidence of what has happened to our country at the hands of our greatest adversary,” Heck says. | |
| The evidence indicates “that this was in part an inside job,” Heck says. | |
| 6.51pm GMT | |
| 18:51 | |
| Rep Elise Stefanik of New York, a Republican, asks why it took the FBI months to notify Congress of its investigation into Russian election tampering, an investigation that opened in June 2016. | |
| “Because of the sensitivity of the matter,” Comey says. | |
| Stefanik then gets Comey to acknowledge that Russian hacking targeted both Republican- and Democratic-affiliated entities. But he doesn’t specify what Republican outfits were targeted. | |
| Updated | |
| at 6.52pm GMT | |
| 6.48pm GMT | |
| 18:48 | |
| Here’s video of the moment when Trump’s tweets about the intelligence hearing were fact-checked at the intelligence hearing (the fact check concluded: tweets not accurate but we apologize if we failed to make ourselves clear). | |
| Lol they're just fact-checking tweets now pic.twitter.com/OZzgGb8dhj | |
| 6.40pm GMT | |
| 18:40 | |
| Rick Crawford, Republican of Arkansas, extends thanks on behalf of New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady for the FBI’s helping to recover his stolen Super Bowl jersey, Comey’s under-oath hatred of the Patriots notwithstanding. What does this guy from Arkansas have to do with the Patriots? | |
| Comey says he hates the Patriots because of their “sustained excellence” which offends him as a New York Giants fan. | |
| Basically, he’s sick of winning. | |
| 6.38pm GMT | |
| 18:38 | |
| Comey: Russia targeted voter registrations rolls, not voting machines or tabulation | |
| Denny Heck, Democrat of DC, asks Comey what elections apparatus Russia targeted, exactly. | |
| Not voting machines, Comey says: “We saw no indication of that.” | |
| They saw “efforts to penetrate state boards of election, voter registration databases.” But not to penetrate the vote itself. “Their efforts were aimed at voter registration systems in various states...” not as far as the FBI knows at “voting machines, vote tabulation.” | |
| 6.35pm GMT | |
| 18:35 | |
| Comey declines comment on whether Manafort subject of investigation | |
| Joaquin Castro, Democrat of Texas: “the coincidences keep piling up.” | |
| He asks: Is Paul Manafort a subject in your investigation? | |
| Comey: I’m not going to comment on that. | |
| 6.29pm GMT | |
| 18:29 | |
| Comey and Rogers contradict Trump tweets about what they said earlier | |
| Himes, the Connecticut Democrat, gets Comey and Rogers to knock down the Trump tweets in real time. | |
| First Himes reads Trump’s tweet that Comey and Rogers had testified “that Russia did not influence electoral process.” | |
| “I haven’t been following anybody on Twitter while I’ve been sitting here,” Comey says. | |
| “This tweet has gone out to millions of Americans, 16.1m to be exact,” Himes says. “Is that accurate?” | |
| Comey says they have not testified about the potential impact of Russia’s tampering on the vote tally: | |
| We’ve offered no opinion, have no view... on potential impact, because it’s not something that we’ve looked at... It certainly wasn’t our intention to say that today because we don’t have any information on that subject. And it wasn’t something that was looked at. | |
| Himes asks Rogers about a second Trump tweet, “NSA Director Rogers tells Congress unmasking individuals endangers national security.” | |
| “I assume the comment is designed to address the leaking of such information,” Rogers says. But he hasn’t read it. | |
| Lol they're just fact-checking tweets now pic.twitter.com/OZzgGb8dhj | |
| Updated | |
| at 6.39pm GMT | |
| 6.22pm GMT | 6.22pm GMT |
| 18:22 | 18:22 |
| Comey, describing Russia’s disposition on Trump, falls back on a football analogy. | Comey, describing Russia’s disposition on Trump, falls back on a football analogy. |
| “I hate the New England Patriots, and no matter who they play I would like them to lose,” he says. “The hatred for Mrs Clinton was all the way along. When Mr Trump became the nominee, there was some sense that it would be great if he could win, it would be great if we could help him” but at least we have to hurt her if we can. | “I hate the New England Patriots, and no matter who they play I would like them to lose,” he says. “The hatred for Mrs Clinton was all the way along. When Mr Trump became the nominee, there was some sense that it would be great if he could win, it would be great if we could help him” but at least we have to hurt her if we can. |
| Rogers jumps in and says they had a lot of evidence pointing in the same direction, in terms of Russia’s preferences, actions and intentions. “There’s a reason why we had a high level as confidence in everything.” | Rogers jumps in and says they had a lot of evidence pointing in the same direction, in terms of Russia’s preferences, actions and intentions. “There’s a reason why we had a high level as confidence in everything.” |
| 6.18pm GMT | 6.18pm GMT |
| 18:18 | 18:18 |
| I don’t know him, I’ve never met him, and we never got along. | I don’t know him, I’ve never met him, and we never got along. |
| Wow - Spicer now describing Manafort as playing a "very limited role" for a "very limited" time. He was chairman of the campaign!!! | Wow - Spicer now describing Manafort as playing a "very limited role" for a "very limited" time. He was chairman of the campaign!!! |
| Why would you tell such embarrassing falsehoods unless you were worried about what Comey might turn up? https://t.co/8HuuqgbbrD | Why would you tell such embarrassing falsehoods unless you were worried about what Comey might turn up? https://t.co/8HuuqgbbrD |
| 6.10pm GMT | 6.10pm GMT |
| 18:10 | 18:10 |
| Comey declines comment on whether Trump personally under investigation | Comey declines comment on whether Trump personally under investigation |
| Or wait... should that be, Comey refuses to deny Trump is being personally investigated? | Or wait... should that be, Comey refuses to deny Trump is being personally investigated? |
| Comey would not comment on whether Trump was or is being personally investigated by FBI. | Comey would not comment on whether Trump was or is being personally investigated by FBI. |
| 6.05pm GMT | 6.05pm GMT |
| 18:05 | 18:05 |
| The Democrats are using the hearing, currently, about Trump family and business activities in Russia. Republicans have used the hearing to raise an alarm about leaks of classified information and to question the motives of the FBI investigation. Both vectors have prompted a lot of “I’m not going to answer that / I can’t answer that” from the witnesses. | The Democrats are using the hearing, currently, about Trump family and business activities in Russia. Republicans have used the hearing to raise an alarm about leaks of classified information and to question the motives of the FBI investigation. Both vectors have prompted a lot of “I’m not going to answer that / I can’t answer that” from the witnesses. |
| Have to wonder if this hearing creates greater pressure for an independent commission into Trump/Russia. HPSCI partisanship on display. | Have to wonder if this hearing creates greater pressure for an independent commission into Trump/Russia. HPSCI partisanship on display. |
| 6.02pm GMT | 6.02pm GMT |
| 18:02 | 18:02 |
| Trump continues to spread misinformation about today’s testimony. | Trump continues to spread misinformation about today’s testimony. |
| What Comey actually said: The White House cannot unmask surveillance targets. “The White House can make similar requests [to unmask the identity of surveillance targets] but they can’t on their own collect, so they can’t on their own unmask.” | What Comey actually said: The White House cannot unmask surveillance targets. “The White House can make similar requests [to unmask the identity of surveillance targets] but they can’t on their own collect, so they can’t on their own unmask.” |
| What Trump says Comey said: Comey admits White House can unmask citizens: | What Trump says Comey said: Comey admits White House can unmask citizens: |
| FBI Director Comey admits Obama’s White House had ability to “unmask” American citizens. https://t.co/gIo6it9NcQ | FBI Director Comey admits Obama’s White House had ability to “unmask” American citizens. https://t.co/gIo6it9NcQ |
| 5.56pm GMT | 5.56pm GMT |
| 17:56 | 17:56 |
| Press secretary Sean Spicer has begun his briefing. He claims the ongoing intelligence hearing has revealed that there’s no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. Of course no such conclusion has been aired at the hearing. What we’ve learned is that the FBI has undertaken an investigation. This is not a subtle distinction. | Press secretary Sean Spicer has begun his briefing. He claims the ongoing intelligence hearing has revealed that there’s no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. Of course no such conclusion has been aired at the hearing. What we’ve learned is that the FBI has undertaken an investigation. This is not a subtle distinction. |
| Spicer on hearing: "It's clear that nothing has changed" as Spicer says there is no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion | Spicer on hearing: "It's clear that nothing has changed" as Spicer says there is no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion |
| Does POTUS still have confidence in Comey? @PressSec: “There is no reason to believe he doesn’t at this time” | Does POTUS still have confidence in Comey? @PressSec: “There is no reason to believe he doesn’t at this time” |
| 5.53pm GMT | 5.53pm GMT |
| 17:53 | 17:53 |
| OK we’re back. Comey tells Schiff, the Democratic ranking member, that the FBI prioritizes cases it investigates. He repeats that it would not be appropriate for the FBI to follow up with reporters on stories touching on classified information. (Although that’s been known to happen.) | OK we’re back. Comey tells Schiff, the Democratic ranking member, that the FBI prioritizes cases it investigates. He repeats that it would not be appropriate for the FBI to follow up with reporters on stories touching on classified information. (Although that’s been known to happen.) |
| 5.38pm GMT | 5.38pm GMT |
| 17:38 | 17:38 |
| Rep Wenstrup, Republican of Ohio, asks Comey whether he can meet with the Iraqi ambassador, or will that bring him under FBI investigation? | Rep Wenstrup, Republican of Ohio, asks Comey whether he can meet with the Iraqi ambassador, or will that bring him under FBI investigation? |
| The implication that Flynn’s or Stone’s or Manafort’s or Sessions’ or Page’s or whoever’s contacts with Russian operatives was small peanuts, the equivalent of a routine meeting any government figure might have with any foreign party, undeserving of investigation. | The implication that Flynn’s or Stone’s or Manafort’s or Sessions’ or Page’s or whoever’s contacts with Russian operatives was small peanuts, the equivalent of a routine meeting any government figure might have with any foreign party, undeserving of investigation. |
| Comey says the FBI does not issue advisory opinions. | Comey says the FBI does not issue advisory opinions. |
| Wenstrup asks Comey whether he knows who leaked information about Flynn. Or whether the NY Times was misled in its pertinent reports. | Wenstrup asks Comey whether he knows who leaked information about Flynn. Or whether the NY Times was misled in its pertinent reports. |
| Comey can’t comment. He won’t confirm accuracy of information in article, he won’t confirm details of investigation, he won’t [he’s interrupted]. | Comey can’t comment. He won’t confirm accuracy of information in article, he won’t confirm details of investigation, he won’t [he’s interrupted]. |
| Wenstrup: Is it possible that a so-called source to a media outlet may actually be a Russian advocate? | Wenstrup: Is it possible that a so-called source to a media outlet may actually be a Russian advocate? |
| [Reds, reds, everywhere...] | [Reds, reds, everywhere...] |
| Comey: In general? Sure. Somebody can always be something they’re intending to not. | Comey: In general? Sure. Somebody can always be something they’re intending to not. |
| Comey asks to pee. Permission granted. | Comey asks to pee. Permission granted. |
| 5.27pm GMT | 5.27pm GMT |
| 17:27 | 17:27 |
| Rep Turner, Republican of Ohio, notes that Russia, if they want to cloud American democracy, must be very happy with Comey’s announcement of an investigation into the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russia. | Rep Turner, Republican of Ohio, notes that Russia, if they want to cloud American democracy, must be very happy with Comey’s announcement of an investigation into the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russia. |
| That seems like a fair assessment. Probably the best news they’ve gotten since... November? | That seems like a fair assessment. Probably the best news they’ve gotten since... November? |
| Turner asks what it takes to open a counter-intelligence investigation. Is a picture with a foreign official enough? | Turner asks what it takes to open a counter-intelligence investigation. Is a picture with a foreign official enough? |
| Comey: It depends. | Comey: It depends. |
| Turner: Let’s say it’s not clandestine. Let’s assume no intention of covertly. Is just a picture enough to spark an investigation? | Turner: Let’s say it’s not clandestine. Let’s assume no intention of covertly. Is just a picture enough to spark an investigation? |
| Comey: Doesn’t strike me as enough. But this is hypothetical. | Comey: Doesn’t strike me as enough. But this is hypothetical. |
| Turner: What about attending a conference. | Turner: What about attending a conference. |
| Comey: I can’t say as I sit here, it would depend on a lot of different things. | Comey: I can’t say as I sit here, it would depend on a lot of different things. |
| They go back and forth a few times. Turner says, “I’m very concerned about the issue of how an investigation is opened.” He tells Comey to make his investigation quick because it could imperil American democracy. Not the activity under investigation, mind you – the investigation. | They go back and forth a few times. Turner says, “I’m very concerned about the issue of how an investigation is opened.” He tells Comey to make his investigation quick because it could imperil American democracy. Not the activity under investigation, mind you – the investigation. |
| 5.14pm GMT | 5.14pm GMT |
| 17:14 | 17:14 |
| Comey: 'I have no information that supports those [wiretapping] tweets' | Comey: 'I have no information that supports those [wiretapping] tweets' |
| Here’s another video clip, of a key moment from this morning. Nunes, the Republican chairman of the committee, admitted as much at the top of the hearing: Trump’s wire tapping claim is bushwa. | Here’s another video clip, of a key moment from this morning. Nunes, the Republican chairman of the committee, admitted as much at the top of the hearing: Trump’s wire tapping claim is bushwa. |
| 5.08pm GMT | 5.08pm GMT |
| 17:08 | 17:08 |
| Here’s a selection from our news coverage so far of these hearings: | Here’s a selection from our news coverage so far of these hearings: |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 5.16pm GMT | at 5.16pm GMT |
| 5.03pm GMT | 5.03pm GMT |
| 17:03 | 17:03 |
| President seeks to muddy testimony about Russia's role | President seeks to muddy testimony about Russia's role |
| Trump tweets a second moment from this morning’s hearing. | Trump tweets a second moment from this morning’s hearing. |
| Our original coverage of the section is here. Nunes was asking Rogers and then Comey whether Russia had succeed in altering vote totals in various swing states. | Our original coverage of the section is here. Nunes was asking Rogers and then Comey whether Russia had succeed in altering vote totals in various swing states. |
| The intelligence directors said no, Russia had not succeeded in altering vote totals. | The intelligence directors said no, Russia had not succeeded in altering vote totals. |
| Trump frames the moment falsely. He says the directors testified that “Russia did not influence the electoral process.” | Trump frames the moment falsely. He says the directors testified that “Russia did not influence the electoral process.” |
| The NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process. pic.twitter.com/d9HqkxYBt5 | The NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process. pic.twitter.com/d9HqkxYBt5 |
| Does the electoral process include information-dissemination by the media and -gathering by voters? In that case, the directors said the exact opposite. Comey declared at the top of the hearing that the FBI was investigating Russian interference in the election and the Trump campaign role. A bit later this morning, there was this exchange between Democratic Rep Himes and the witnesses: | Does the electoral process include information-dissemination by the media and -gathering by voters? In that case, the directors said the exact opposite. Comey declared at the top of the hearing that the FBI was investigating Russian interference in the election and the Trump campaign role. A bit later this morning, there was this exchange between Democratic Rep Himes and the witnesses: |
| Himes wonders whether “Russian hacking” refers to the fact that the intelligence community believes that Russians penetrated DNC and Podesta, stole info and disseminated it. | Himes wonders whether “Russian hacking” refers to the fact that the intelligence community believes that Russians penetrated DNC and Podesta, stole info and disseminated it. |
| Is that a fair characterization? | Is that a fair characterization? |
| Yes sir, says Rogers. | Yes sir, says Rogers. |
| But Rogers did not analyze whether that activity affected the election outcome. | But Rogers did not analyze whether that activity affected the election outcome. |
| Of course you didn’t, Himes said. | Of course you didn’t, Himes said. |
| Precisely as Trump was asserting that the intelligence chiefs had denied Russian influence, Comey and Rogers were testifying that Russian interference in the election had been “unusually loud,” as if the whole point of the interference was to destroy the credibility of American democracy by encouraging the intelligence community to flag the activity. | Precisely as Trump was asserting that the intelligence chiefs had denied Russian influence, Comey and Rogers were testifying that Russian interference in the election had been “unusually loud,” as if the whole point of the interference was to destroy the credibility of American democracy by encouraging the intelligence community to flag the activity. |
| Something else that might erode faith in American democracy: the president running a misinformation campaign that renders sworn testimony by intelligence chiefs incoherent. | Something else that might erode faith in American democracy: the president running a misinformation campaign that renders sworn testimony by intelligence chiefs incoherent. |