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Ukip’s former leader Nigel Farage has accused the party’s only MP of preventing it from becoming a radical anti-immigration party.Ukip’s former leader Nigel Farage has accused the party’s only MP of preventing it from becoming a radical anti-immigration party.
In an increasingly hostile war of words with Douglas Carswell, Farage said the Clacton MP, who defected from the Conservatives to Ukip in 2014, had undermined his attempts to equate EU membership with increased levels of immigration. In an increasingly hostile war of words with Douglas Carswell, Farage said the Clacton MP, who defected from the Conservatives to Ukip in 2014, had undermined his attempts to equate EU membership with increased levels of immigration. He denied his desire to see Carswell expelled from the party was connected with leaked emails which suggested the MP had blocked a move to grant Farage a peerage.
Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme amid reports that Carswell is in talks with the Tories about switching back, Farage said: “The time has now come to have a clean break. To make sure we don’t have influences like Carswell taking us away from the key arguments like immigration. Party sources insisted on Wednesday that Carswell was not subject to any formal disciplinary procedures, and Ukip leader Paul Nuttall had no prerogative power to expel him, even if he should wish to do so.
Carswell met Ukip chairman Paul Oakden on Monday night, and said the meeting was “amicable” and he intended to continue to sit as a Ukip MP.
Carswell played down reports that he was on the verge of returning to the Conservative party. “I’m Ukip 100%” he told the Guardian. Ukip donor Arron Banks, a close ally of Farage and fierce critic of the MP, announced on Twitter on Tuesday that he intended to stand against Carswell in Clacton at the next general election.
However, one Tory MP told the Guardian that while it would “infuriate some colleagues”, they did believe it was likely that Carswell would eventually switch back from Ukip, though the MP has also said he would not want to inflict another by-election on his constituency so soon after a general election and referendum, and would feel honour-bound to do so if he switched party.
A Ukip source said Oakden had been asked to meet Carswell to establish the facts behind the leaked email row, but the MP was not subject to formal disciplinary proceedings. “The matter of whether a party member remains a member of the party is a matter for the NEC,” the source said.
“Nigel said this morning he wanted to expel Douglas in 2015. But it was impossible to do, because the party leader does not have that power. Neither does Paul Nuttall. It is not in Paul’s gift, because if a party leader had that sort of power, the possibility of dictatorial control would be appalling.
“That’s why all parties have processes and systems to ensure fair play. There is no formal process to kick him out of the party or discipline him, it is a fact-finding exercise.”
Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme Farage said: “The time has now come to have a clean break. To make sure we don’t have influences like Carswell taking us away from the key arguments like immigration.
“There have been some in Ukip who want to turn us into a mainstream political party with very bland messages and I would say Ukip is a radical party or it is nothing.“There have been some in Ukip who want to turn us into a mainstream political party with very bland messages and I would say Ukip is a radical party or it is nothing.
“This question of immigration is still the number one issue in the minds of voters in this country. Ukip must not be squeamish about it. People like Douglas Carswell wrote in the Times last year we should not make immigration synonymous with EU membership. I thought, ‘Crikey, I have spent 10 years trying to do that very thing’.”“This question of immigration is still the number one issue in the minds of voters in this country. Ukip must not be squeamish about it. People like Douglas Carswell wrote in the Times last year we should not make immigration synonymous with EU membership. I thought, ‘Crikey, I have spent 10 years trying to do that very thing’.”
Farage denied his calls for Carswell to be expelled from Ukip were motivated by reports that the MP had attempted to block Farage from getting a knighthood. Leaked emails showed Carswell joking that Farage should be given an OBE “for services to headline writers”.Farage denied his calls for Carswell to be expelled from Ukip were motivated by reports that the MP had attempted to block Farage from getting a knighthood. Leaked emails showed Carswell joking that Farage should be given an OBE “for services to headline writers”.
Farage initially ducked the question, saying: “I dislike him because he has damaged me, Ukip and the leave campaign.”Farage initially ducked the question, saying: “I dislike him because he has damaged me, Ukip and the leave campaign.”
Asked a third time whether Carswell’s attempt to block a possible knighthood was motivating his animosity, Farage said: “No, I’ve been campaigning to get rid of him for a very long time.”Asked a third time whether Carswell’s attempt to block a possible knighthood was motivating his animosity, Farage said: “No, I’ve been campaigning to get rid of him for a very long time.”
But he was coy about whether he wanted to become “Sir Nigel”. Asked whether he wanted a knighthood, he said: “Not particularly.” But while he ruled out a peerage, he added: “If something else came along I might accept it.”But he was coy about whether he wanted to become “Sir Nigel”. Asked whether he wanted a knighthood, he said: “Not particularly.” But while he ruled out a peerage, he added: “If something else came along I might accept it.”
Carswell has played down reports that he is on the verge of returning to the Tory fold. “I’m Ukip 100%” he told the Guardian. Farage accused Carswell of being “against most of the key principles that Ukip stands for” and said he threatened to undermineNuttall, who was recently defeated in the Stoke Central by-election by Labour’s Gareth Snell. He said: “We should have got rid of him back in 2015 when he pretty much sabotaged a media attempt of mine at a European summit.”
On Monday night, Carswell said he had had an “amicable” meeting with Ukip’s chair, Paul Oakden, and was happy to continue to represent the party in the House of Commons.
But one Tory MP told the Guardian that while it would “infuriate some colleagues”, they did believe it was likely that Carswell would switch back from Ukip.
Farage accused Carswell of being “against most of the key principles that Ukip stands for” and said he threatened to undermine the current leader, Paul Nuttall.
He said: “We should have got rid of him back in 2015 when he pretty much sabotaged a media attempt of mine at a European summit.”
Farage said he had no power to expel Carswell from the party. He said: “It is not my decision. I have no executive position in the party at all. But I think that our own NEC now needs to do this.”Farage said he had no power to expel Carswell from the party. He said: “It is not my decision. I have no executive position in the party at all. But I think that our own NEC now needs to do this.”
A Ukip source said Oakden had been asked to meet Carswell to establish the facts behind the leaked email row, but the MP was not subject to formal disciplinary proceedings.
“The matter of whether a party member remains a member of the party is a matter for the NEC,” the source said.
“Nigel said this morning he wanted to expel Douglas in 2015. But it was impossible to do, because the party leader does not have that power. Neither does Paul Nuttall. It is not in Paul’s gift, because if a party leader had that sort of power, the possibility of dictatorial control would be appalling. That’s why all parties have processes and systems to ensure fair play. There is no formal process to kick him out of the party or discipline him, it is a fact-finding exercise.”
Asked about Ukip’s future as Britain begins to leave the EU, Farage said: “We are the turkeys that have voted for Christmas.Asked about Ukip’s future as Britain begins to leave the EU, Farage said: “We are the turkeys that have voted for Christmas.
“At the moment there is huge trust in Theresa May to deliver Brexit, but I think already we are beginning to see concessions being made, over fishing, the fact that she wants to stay in the European arrest warrant. My guess is that a year down the road, there will be a lot of people who are very frustrated with the Brexit process. So Ukip needs to bide its time and get its messages right.”“At the moment there is huge trust in Theresa May to deliver Brexit, but I think already we are beginning to see concessions being made, over fishing, the fact that she wants to stay in the European arrest warrant. My guess is that a year down the road, there will be a lot of people who are very frustrated with the Brexit process. So Ukip needs to bide its time and get its messages right.”