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People living in a north Derbyshire hamlet have been told they cannot have any signposts pointing to the area because it is not a "recognised" place. People living in a north Derbyshire hamlet have been told they cannot have signposts because it is not a "recognised" place.
Holestone Moor near Matlock has been mentioned in census and gravedigging records since 1851.Holestone Moor near Matlock has been mentioned in census and gravedigging records since 1851.
But Derbyshire County Council said the hamlet was not shown on local maps and therefore was not a recognised geographical location. But Derbyshire County Council said the settlement was not shown on local maps and therefore was not a recognised geographical location.
Resident Steve Clemerson said the community definitely "did exist".Resident Steve Clemerson said the community definitely "did exist".
'Tongue-in-cheek''Tongue-in-cheek'
Mr Clemerson, who runs a holiday cottage business, said: "Guests are having problems finding us because the road isn't signposted.Mr Clemerson, who runs a holiday cottage business, said: "Guests are having problems finding us because the road isn't signposted.
"We do exist, we do live here. We don't seem to get an awful lot for our council tax and it didn't seem too much to ask whether they [the council] could signpost the road so people could find us.""We do exist, we do live here. We don't seem to get an awful lot for our council tax and it didn't seem too much to ask whether they [the council] could signpost the road so people could find us."
Holestone Moor is made up of eight houses plus a few businesses and farms.Holestone Moor is made up of eight houses plus a few businesses and farms.
In a statement, Derbyshire County Council said: "The council can only supply signs to recognised geographical locations and does not consider that Holestone Moor is such a place.In a statement, Derbyshire County Council said: "The council can only supply signs to recognised geographical locations and does not consider that Holestone Moor is such a place.
"There are no distinct entry points to the hamlet and it is not shown on local maps.""There are no distinct entry points to the hamlet and it is not shown on local maps."
Residents did offer to club together to erect their own signs but were told by the council they would be removed as "an illegal obstruction".Residents did offer to club together to erect their own signs but were told by the council they would be removed as "an illegal obstruction".
Mr Clemerson added: "It's all a bit tongue-in-cheek. It would genuinely be nice to have the road signposted. Whether we're called a hamlet or not is irrelevant. We know we're a community."Mr Clemerson added: "It's all a bit tongue-in-cheek. It would genuinely be nice to have the road signposted. Whether we're called a hamlet or not is irrelevant. We know we're a community."