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| Labor and Coalition debate penalty rate cuts – politics live | Labor and Coalition debate penalty rate cuts – politics live |
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| 2.33am GMT | |
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| Classic. The group that destablises a Coalition govt betrays its own members, turning them from the Deplorables into the Expendables #auspol pic.twitter.com/xXuM0BAX8w | |
| 2.27am GMT | |
| 02:27 | |
| Updated | |
| at 2.29am GMT | |
| 2.15am GMT | |
| 02:15 | |
| Voting patterns on penalty rate suspension. | |
| Independents Katter, Sharkie, Bandt & Wilkie vote with Opposition, McGowan votes with govt. #suspension #fairWorkAct pic.twitter.com/D91mCZf1n7 | |
| 2.12am GMT | |
| 02:12 | |
| Canning Liberal MP Andrew Hastie, the man who named the conservative group The Deplorables, has stood by Malcolm Turnbull on Perth radio. | |
| He is the prime minister under God – I consider that a sacred office and I would be loath to push a spill motion or do any of those sorts of things which people are somehow suggesting. | |
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| at 2.29am GMT | |
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| 02:09 | |
| Whither to for the Young Ones | |
| Katharine Murphy has a story on the Deplorable Club which you can find here. But there is a lovely little detail in it: | |
| One member of the group of conservative MPs told Guardian Australia on Monday the coordination between like-minded parliamentarians started as a narrowly focussed effort to revive the 18C debate, rather as anything more broad ranging, although there was a feeling that Abbott should return to the cabinet. | |
| But according to this account, as time went on, younger conservatives involved in the discussions became irritated that the conversations turned to returning Eric Abetz and Kevin Andrews – two Abbott supporters moved on from the cabinet by Turnbull when he took the leadership in September 2015 – to ministerial roles. “This turned the young ones off,” said one participant. | |
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| Deplorable. | |
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| at 2.09am GMT | |
| 1.59am GMT | 1.59am GMT |
| 01:59 | 01:59 |
| Paul Karp | Paul Karp |
| Labor shadow Brendan O’Connor spoke in the house after Malcolm Turnbull. O’Connor said far from abiding by the umpire’s decision, the Coalition had previous chucked out umpire decisions, including the Victorian Country Fire Authority dispute, and in abolishing the road safety remuneration tribunal. | |
| In the CFA dispute, the Turnbull government made changes to the Fair Work Act in August 2016 prohibiting terms of enterprise agreements that restrict emergency services organisations’ ability to deploy volunteers. | In the CFA dispute, the Turnbull government made changes to the Fair Work Act in August 2016 prohibiting terms of enterprise agreements that restrict emergency services organisations’ ability to deploy volunteers. |
| The Fair Work Commission hadn’t yet approved the EA so the government didn’t technically overturn an existing decision, it changed the goal posts in order to affect the outcome in a particular case. | |
| In the case of the RSRT, the government abolished the body that set the rates independent contractors’ charged for work (and therefore their pay). In this case, the RSRT had already issued a pay order, and the government got rid of not just the order but the whole body. | In the case of the RSRT, the government abolished the body that set the rates independent contractors’ charged for work (and therefore their pay). In this case, the RSRT had already issued a pay order, and the government got rid of not just the order but the whole body. |
| Coalition types would defend the move because – unlike the Fair Work Commission which sets minimum pay for employees – the RSRT set minimum rates for independent contractors’, which arguably interfered with their ability to compete. But it is still an example of overturning the decision of an independent tribunal. | |
| Liberal defence industries minister Christopher Pyne just told Sky: | Liberal defence industries minister Christopher Pyne just told Sky: |
| The RSRT was a fit-up by the Labor party. | The RSRT was a fit-up by the Labor party. |
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| at 2.03am GMT | |
| 1.52am GMT | 1.52am GMT |
| 01:52 | 01:52 |
| Lunchtime politics | Lunchtime politics |
| Newspoll has the Coalition on 45% to Labor’s 55% on a two-party-preferred basis. The Coalition’s primary vote is bleeding to One Nation and Labor. | Newspoll has the Coalition on 45% to Labor’s 55% on a two-party-preferred basis. The Coalition’s primary vote is bleeding to One Nation and Labor. |
| This appears to have put Malcolm Turnbull in a mood, which has led to a stern lecture to journalists for getting distracted rather than focusing on the issues of bottlemakers and butchers. | This appears to have put Malcolm Turnbull in a mood, which has led to a stern lecture to journalists for getting distracted rather than focusing on the issues of bottlemakers and butchers. |
| The prime minister also said the bad poll was Tony Abbott’s fault and the former PM’s intervention was specifically designed to inflict damage in the polling period. | The prime minister also said the bad poll was Tony Abbott’s fault and the former PM’s intervention was specifically designed to inflict damage in the polling period. |
| The poll didn’t put Barnaby Joyce in a mood though, because he actually said he reads polls. He is listening, says he. | The poll didn’t put Barnaby Joyce in a mood though, because he actually said he reads polls. He is listening, says he. |
| Treasurer Scott Morrison had batted off suggestions from Ray Hadley that he should a) listen to Tony Abbott on his policy prescriptions to stop immigration and dump the renewable energy target and b) not listen to Tony Abbott and hold the government line. Morrison suggested that Abbott’s policy to dump the RET was a sovereign risk. Labor environment shadow Mark Butler agreed with Scott Morrison and everyone cheered. | Treasurer Scott Morrison had batted off suggestions from Ray Hadley that he should a) listen to Tony Abbott on his policy prescriptions to stop immigration and dump the renewable energy target and b) not listen to Tony Abbott and hold the government line. Morrison suggested that Abbott’s policy to dump the RET was a sovereign risk. Labor environment shadow Mark Butler agreed with Scott Morrison and everyone cheered. |
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| at 1.53am GMT | at 1.53am GMT |
| 1.42am GMT | 1.42am GMT |
| 01:42 | 01:42 |
| Labor social services shadow Jenny Macklin is speaking against the omnibus/childcare bill and I will focus on a lunchtime summary. | Labor social services shadow Jenny Macklin is speaking against the omnibus/childcare bill and I will focus on a lunchtime summary. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 1.44am GMT | at 1.44am GMT |
| 1.39am GMT | 1.39am GMT |
| 01:39 | 01:39 |
| Labor lost the suspension motion to introduce its penalty rates bill. | Labor lost the suspension motion to introduce its penalty rates bill. |
| 1.35am GMT | 1.35am GMT |
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| Is that a berm? | Is that a berm? |
| Senate president Stephen Parry has told Senate estimates there was never a plan to build a moat around parliament house. | Senate president Stephen Parry has told Senate estimates there was never a plan to build a moat around parliament house. |
| It was going to be a ditch called a ha ha, it was mooted for one section of the parliament house perimeter but it had serious technical difficulties. It was never going to be filled with water or crocodiles, it was just a ditch. | It was going to be a ditch called a ha ha, it was mooted for one section of the parliament house perimeter but it had serious technical difficulties. It was never going to be filled with water or crocodiles, it was just a ditch. |
| This was reported on last year by Michael Koziol at Fairfax: | This was reported on last year by Michael Koziol at Fairfax: |
| Security agencies considered digging a channel similar to a moat around Parliament House as part of a controversial security overhaul, Fairfax Media can reveal. | Security agencies considered digging a channel similar to a moat around Parliament House as part of a controversial security overhaul, Fairfax Media can reveal. |
| The embankment, technically called a “berm” and commonly used as a defence against tanks, would have encircled the building as a way to keep vehicles off the hill. | The embankment, technically called a “berm” and commonly used as a defence against tanks, would have encircled the building as a way to keep vehicles off the hill. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 2.31am GMT | |
| 1.26am GMT | 1.26am GMT |
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| OK the lower house is now voting on Labor’s suspension motion. | OK the lower house is now voting on Labor’s suspension motion. |
| 1.20am GMT | 1.20am GMT |
| 01:20 | 01:20 |
| Malcolm Turnbull is losing his voice as he rounds on Bill Shorten and his record with the FWC, saying, | Malcolm Turnbull is losing his voice as he rounds on Bill Shorten and his record with the FWC, saying, |
| he started it | he started it |
| he staffed it | he staffed it |
| he defended it in advance | he defended it in advance |
| now he tries to backflip. | now he tries to backflip. |
| Nobody has traded away more penalty rates than the leader of the opposition. | Nobody has traded away more penalty rates than the leader of the opposition. |
| 1.16am GMT | 1.16am GMT |
| 01:16 | 01:16 |
| Malcolm Turnbull now goes to the substance of the issue. | Malcolm Turnbull now goes to the substance of the issue. |
| All of us understand how hard this will hit those who work on weekends. | All of us understand how hard this will hit those who work on weekends. |
| But Turnbull says the trade-off will be more hours worked, more jobs in hospitality and retail and workers will benefit. | But Turnbull says the trade-off will be more hours worked, more jobs in hospitality and retail and workers will benefit. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 1.20am GMT | at 1.20am GMT |
| 1.13am GMT | 1.13am GMT |
| 01:13 | 01:13 |
| Malcolm Turnbull is speaking against the Labor suspension of standing orders. | Malcolm Turnbull is speaking against the Labor suspension of standing orders. |
| Turnbull is talking about Shorten appointing the president of the FWC, | Turnbull is talking about Shorten appointing the president of the FWC, |
| hard-handed capitalist Iain Ross. | hard-handed capitalist Iain Ross. |
| He has worked in and around the unions for years, says Turnbull. | He has worked in and around the unions for years, says Turnbull. |
| 1.06am GMT | 1.06am GMT |
| 01:06 | 01:06 |
| Bill Shorten says the Labor party had opposed any cuts to penalty rates in the Fair Work Commission. | Bill Shorten says the Labor party had opposed any cuts to penalty rates in the Fair Work Commission. |
| Whereas the Coalition, having supported cuts to penalty rates previously, was now pretending it was Labor’s fault. | Whereas the Coalition, having supported cuts to penalty rates previously, was now pretending it was Labor’s fault. |
| Proverbial dog that has caught the truck. It doesn’t know what to do. | Proverbial dog that has caught the truck. It doesn’t know what to do. |