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Indyref should not happen says David Mundell | Indyref should not happen says David Mundell |
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Scottish Secretary David Mundell has said a second independence referendum was possible but it should not happen. | Scottish Secretary David Mundell has said a second independence referendum was possible but it should not happen. |
The Tory MP said he "dreaded" a second ballot because it would be "seriously unpleasant" but he was confident the vote would support staying in the UK. | The Tory MP said he "dreaded" a second ballot because it would be "seriously unpleasant" but he was confident the vote would support staying in the UK. |
Earlier this week, UK Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said the SNP should "forget" about a second referendum. | Earlier this week, UK Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said the SNP should "forget" about a second referendum. |
He would not be drawn on reports he had suggested the UK government would block a vote. | He would not be drawn on reports he had suggested the UK government would block a vote. |
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said another independence referendum was increasingly likely in the wake of the Brexit vote but she would need the UK government's permission in order to hold a second legally binding vote. | Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said another independence referendum was increasingly likely in the wake of the Brexit vote but she would need the UK government's permission in order to hold a second legally binding vote. |
In an interview on BBC Scotland's Sunday Politics, Mr Mundell was asked several times if the UK government would block Scottish government plans for a second referendum | |
He said there was "not a proposal on the table" so it was not an issue at the moment. | He said there was "not a proposal on the table" so it was not an issue at the moment. |
Mr Mundell, Scotland's only Tory MP, said he did not want to get into a discussion about "process" but for a second independence referendum to happen there would need to be a similar deal to the Edinburgh agreement which allowed the 2014 vote. | Mr Mundell, Scotland's only Tory MP, said he did not want to get into a discussion about "process" but for a second independence referendum to happen there would need to be a similar deal to the Edinburgh agreement which allowed the 2014 vote. |
This would need the UK government and the Scottish government to reach agreement on the terms of the vote. | This would need the UK government and the Scottish government to reach agreement on the terms of the vote. |
Mr Mundell said: "Of course there could be another referendum, that is a process issue. | Mr Mundell said: "Of course there could be another referendum, that is a process issue. |
"But the people of Scotland are very clear that they don't want one and that's what we need to continue to debate about." | "But the people of Scotland are very clear that they don't want one and that's what we need to continue to debate about." |
Single market | Single market |
He added: "I'm not feart of another referendum, as Nicola Sturgeon likes to suggest, because I think it is pretty clear the outcome would be the same. | He added: "I'm not feart of another referendum, as Nicola Sturgeon likes to suggest, because I think it is pretty clear the outcome would be the same. |
"But I dread it because I think it would be a divisive and seriously unpleasant event which would set Scot against Scot and I don't think people want to see that." | "But I dread it because I think it would be a divisive and seriously unpleasant event which would set Scot against Scot and I don't think people want to see that." |
Mr Mundell said: "What people want to see is the two governments working together to get the best deal for Scotland and the rest of the UK as we leave the European Union." | Mr Mundell said: "What people want to see is the two governments working together to get the best deal for Scotland and the rest of the UK as we leave the European Union." |
The Scottish secretary also said it was not impossible for Scotland to remain part of the European Single Market via the European Free Trade Agreement while remaining in the UK, which is the first minister's wish. | The Scottish secretary also said it was not impossible for Scotland to remain part of the European Single Market via the European Free Trade Agreement while remaining in the UK, which is the first minister's wish. |
Mr Mundell said he did not see the need for a "differentiated" agreement for Scotland but his mind was "open". | Mr Mundell said he did not see the need for a "differentiated" agreement for Scotland but his mind was "open". |
At first minister's questions on Thursday, Ms Sturgeon told Holyrood: "If this parliament voted to have a referendum on independence, then absolutely I agree that no Westminster Tory should stand in the way of the voice of this parliament. | At first minister's questions on Thursday, Ms Sturgeon told Holyrood: "If this parliament voted to have a referendum on independence, then absolutely I agree that no Westminster Tory should stand in the way of the voice of this parliament. |
"The mandate of this government in relation to this is unequivocal - it was the Tories after all who put us in the position of being taken out of the European Union against our will, and with the support of only one of the 59 MPs in this country. | "The mandate of this government in relation to this is unequivocal - it was the Tories after all who put us in the position of being taken out of the European Union against our will, and with the support of only one of the 59 MPs in this country. |
"Strange is it not that a Tory party that proclaims that it would be so confident of winning a referendum on independence now talks about trying to block it. | "Strange is it not that a Tory party that proclaims that it would be so confident of winning a referendum on independence now talks about trying to block it. |
"Isn't it the case that the Tories are actually running a wee bit feart?" | "Isn't it the case that the Tories are actually running a wee bit feart?" |