Three Paths to America

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/podcasts/three-paths-to-america.html

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We spent all weekend trying to understand the immigration ban signed into effect by President Trump last week aimed at keeping refugees and residents of seven majority-Muslim countries from entering the United States, and realized there isn’t enough bandwidth in the world to process the scale and scope of this decision.

So on this week’s “Still Processing,” we invited three women who live or have lived in the United States but were not born here to get their perspective on what the immigration ban means on a personal, philosophical and historical level.

First, we speak with Habab, one of Jenna’s friends, who was born in Sudan and raised in Canada and has been living in Washington legally for the last few years. She was mid-flight when Mr. Trump signed the order, heading home after a routine business trip to South America. She describes the unsettling confusion that greeted her when she landed at Washington Dulles airport.

Rukmini Callimachi, who covers terrorism and jihadists for The New York Times, talks with Wesley about the political implications of the ban — and whether it will resolve the problem it is intended to solve.

And we speak with Armida Lizarraga, an education consultant who lives in Lima, Peru, with her husband, a United States citizen who happens to be one of Wesley’s closest friends. We talk to her about her memories of living under Alberto Fujimori, the controversial former president of Peru who is now serving a 25-year sentence for corruption and human rights violations.

At the end of the show, we offer some recommendations for emotional balms to help one another cope with the chaos of the world right now. Not surprisingly, Wesley and Jenna twin out by suggesting the same sort of feel-good cultural activity.

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