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Italy referendum: 'Period of uncertainty' predicted after Matteo Renzi's defeat – live Italy referendum: 'Period of uncertainty' predicted after Matteo Renzi's defeat – live
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10.54am GMT
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Italy might have to spend public money to rescue some of its banks, including by taking stakes in them, according to European Central Bank Governing Council member Ewald Nowotny.
“The difference between Italy and other states such as Germany and Austria is that, until now, in Italy there has not been any significant state aid or state takeovers (of banks),” Reuters quoted him saying.
Nowotny, who heads Austria’s central bank, added: “It therefore cannot be ruled out that it will be necessary for the state to take stakes (in banks) in some way.”
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10.46am GMT
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BuzzFeed’s Italian Europe editor Alberto Nardelli cautions against playing down the referendum result:
The next time Italy goes to the polls you have a 3 horse race: 1) M5S 2) PD (in disarray) and 3) centre-right/Lega - they all could win
10.41am GMT
10:41
Germany’s foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has admitted that the result of the Italian referendum is a “concern’.
He said that while the result of the Italian referendum on constitutional reform,was “not the end of the world,” it was also “not a positive development in the case of the general crisis in Europe.”
Steinmeier said that Germany was watching the developments “with concern.”
He added that Renzi’s government had been moving in the right direction, and he said Germany hoped the new Italian government would continue along the same path.
10.35am GMT
10:35
Stephanie Kirchgaessner
What happens now in Italy?
Our Rome correspondent Stephanie Kirchgaessner has the answers:
Prime Minister Matto Renzi said at an emotional press conference after the vote that he would submit his resignation to Italy’s president, Sergio Mattarella, on Monday afternoon.
We can expect that the president will either accept his resignation or ask Renzi to stay, but the prime minister’s overwhelming loss, with about 60% of Italians rejecting the proposed changes, mean he is most likely leaving Palazzo Chigi. For now.
Then what?
With Renzi gone it will fall to Mattarella to cobble together a new government. He will call in all the leading parties to see if they can reach an agreement on a new government. The major players will be Renzi, who is still the leader, for now, of the ruling Democratic party; Silvio Berlusconi, representing Forza Italia; Beppe Grillo or one of his emissaries – young guns Luigi Di Maio or Alessandro Di Battista; and Matteo Salvini of the Northern League.
Hang on, won’t there be an election?
That’s what the Five Star Movement and the Northern League want. They will put considerable pressure on Mattarella to dissolve the current parliament and set a date for a snap vote.
If they appear to be in a hurry on this front, that’s because they are, and for good reason. One of the major reforms that the Renzi government passed before Sunday’s rout was an elaborate change to the country’s electoral laws. The change was designed for the winner of the next election, which everyone thought would take place in 2018, to automatically take a majority of seats in parliament. At the time the so-called Italicum law passed, it was fiercely opposed by the Five Star Movement, which compared it to a fascist power grab.
The changes in election rules were meant to work alongside the changes to the constitution that have now been rejected by Italian voters. The Democratic party has made it clear that it now wants to, and must, change the electoral law back to a proportional system.
Not surprisingly, the Five Star Movement sees a big opportunity for the party to win if elections are held right now, under the new electoral laws, and before they are changed back to a proportionate system. This is the brutal fight we are heading into. Mattarella will have the final say.
So will there be a snap election or not?
Stay tuned. Most analysts do not think it is a real possibility, but there are a lot of moving parts at the moment. If the main centrist and traditional political parties – the Democratic party and Forza Italia – can stay aligned, because both have an interest in changing the electoral law back to the way it was, they can likely stave off calls for a snap election.
In which case, who might be the next prime minister?
Some names have been floating around for weeks, given that Renzi was behind in the polls for a while and Sunday’s defeat was not really unexpected. The leading contender at the moment seems to be Pier Carlo Padoan, who currently serves as finance minister.
It’s a choice that might calm investor concerns, given that Padoan has long been seen as the lead figure in dealing with the aftermath of the economic crisis and continuing problems with Italy’s banking system. Dario Franceschini, the culture minister, is another name that has been in the mix, as well as economic development minister Carlo Calenda, also famous for being at the centre of an unlikely row over prosecco with Boris Johnson.
Federico Santi, an Italy analyst at Eurasia Group in London, said it was most likely that Renzi’s replacement would be a member of the PD, and one who would be deemed acceptable to critical factions within the party as well as centrist coalition partners such as Angelo Alfano, the centre-right interior minister.
But Renzi will also want to pick someone who does not necessarily harbour grand political ambitions themselves who might ultimately challenge him in the likely case that he wants to return to Palazzo Chigi in the future.
What will the caretaker government do and how long will it take to get off the ground?
Analysts predict that a caretaker government could be in place within a few weeks and that Renzi could remain at the helm of the government until a new government is secured with the backing of parliament and one other piece of impending business – passage of the 2017 budget – is completed.
How has Mattarella handled crises like this in the past?
We really don’t know. This will be the first time the president, who was elected in 2015, has been at the centre of such a big moment for the country. He has been tight-lipped so far and is supposed to be an independent actor, making decisions in the best interests of Italy.
10.25am GMT
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Alessandra Mussolini, Italian Senator, Forza Italia MEP and the granddaughter of the dictator Benito Mussolini, says the Italian referendum result is ominous for German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
@forza_italia Vittoria del NO segnale anche a #Europa a trazione tedesca. Endorsement #Merkel e #Schauble tomba per il SI @ForzaItaliaEU
She spells out the messages by retweeting a provocative image of Europe’s fallen leaders posted by a right wing blogger.
Retweeted Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet):pic.twitter.com/tTWv9lAa0E https://t.co/EizZmdHjPE
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Matteo Salvini, head of Italy’s far right Northern League party, has hailed the referendum result as Italy’s Liberation Day from the government of Matteo Renzi. He is giving a press conference that is being streamed on Facebook.Matteo Salvini, head of Italy’s far right Northern League party, has hailed the referendum result as Italy’s Liberation Day from the government of Matteo Renzi. He is giving a press conference that is being streamed on Facebook.
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Pierre Moscovici, the European Commissioner for Economic and Financial Affairs, is putting a brave face on the Italian referendum.Pierre Moscovici, the European Commissioner for Economic and Financial Affairs, is putting a brave face on the Italian referendum.
Speaking to reporters in Brussels he said he has “full confidence in Italian authorities to manage this situation”.Speaking to reporters in Brussels he said he has “full confidence in Italian authorities to manage this situation”.
He added: “I’m very confident in the capacity of the eurozone to resist all kind of shocks.”He added: “I’m very confident in the capacity of the eurozone to resist all kind of shocks.”
'Italian authorities well-equipped to deal with the situation, says @pierremoscovici 'Italy is a solid country on which we rely.''Italian authorities well-equipped to deal with the situation, says @pierremoscovici 'Italy is a solid country on which we rely.'
French Finance Minister Michel Sapin, took a similar move-along-nothing-to-see-here line. He insisted that the Italian referendum “is a question of internal politics. The referendum wasn’t about Europe.”French Finance Minister Michel Sapin, took a similar move-along-nothing-to-see-here line. He insisted that the Italian referendum “is a question of internal politics. The referendum wasn’t about Europe.”
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9.47am GMT9.47am GMT
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Germany’s hardline finance minister, Wolfgang Schäuble, says Italy should continue with Renzi’s economic policies.Germany’s hardline finance minister, Wolfgang Schäuble, says Italy should continue with Renzi’s economic policies.
“Italy has to continue the path that Prime Minister Renzi has taken economically and politically”, Reuters quoted Schäuble as saying.“Italy has to continue the path that Prime Minister Renzi has taken economically and politically”, Reuters quoted Schäuble as saying.
The response prompted a Gif of a headshaking Schäuble:The response prompted a Gif of a headshaking Schäuble:
#Schäuble: "Continuare con politiche economiche Renzi. Non c'è motivo per crisi dell'Euro" Arrivano le prime direttive. #5dicembre pic.twitter.com/rdwRFBXGJS#Schäuble: "Continuare con politiche economiche Renzi. Non c'è motivo per crisi dell'Euro" Arrivano le prime direttive. #5dicembre pic.twitter.com/rdwRFBXGJS
9.39am GMT9.39am GMT
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The euro has rebounded from a 21-month low, clawing back almost all the ground it had lost overnight. Reuters has more:The euro has rebounded from a 21-month low, clawing back almost all the ground it had lost overnight. Reuters has more:
The single currency tumbled as much as 1.4% in Asian trade to hit $1.0505, its weakest since March 2015, as investors worried about increased political uncertainty in the euro zone. But by 0855 GMT it had recovered almost all of those losses, trading down 0.1% on the day at $1.0650.The single currency tumbled as much as 1.4% in Asian trade to hit $1.0505, its weakest since March 2015, as investors worried about increased political uncertainty in the euro zone. But by 0855 GMT it had recovered almost all of those losses, trading down 0.1% on the day at $1.0650.
The result had been widely expected, though the size of the “No” vote, at with 59.1%, was more emphatic than had been forecast.The result had been widely expected, though the size of the “No” vote, at with 59.1%, was more emphatic than had been forecast.
“Because the vote was largely expected, there really isn’t enthusiasm to push the move too far,” said Societe Generale macro strategist Kit Juckes. “From here, FX will take its cue from (bond) spreads, the equity market reaction, and wait for rating agencies to opine.”“Because the vote was largely expected, there really isn’t enthusiasm to push the move too far,” said Societe Generale macro strategist Kit Juckes. “From here, FX will take its cue from (bond) spreads, the equity market reaction, and wait for rating agencies to opine.”
Italy’s 10-year government bond yield shot up as much 13 basis points to above 2% soon after European bond markets opened, still below a 14-month high around 2.17% touched in late November. By 0855 GMT it was back below 2%, up 6 basis points on the day.Italy’s 10-year government bond yield shot up as much 13 basis points to above 2% soon after European bond markets opened, still below a 14-month high around 2.17% touched in late November. By 0855 GMT it was back below 2%, up 6 basis points on the day.
European Central Bank sources told Reuters last week that the bank was ready to step up purchases of Italian government bonds temporarily if the referendum result were to spur a sell-off, but traders said on Monday that they had seen no evidence of the ECB in the market so far.European Central Bank sources told Reuters last week that the bank was ready to step up purchases of Italian government bonds temporarily if the referendum result were to spur a sell-off, but traders said on Monday that they had seen no evidence of the ECB in the market so far.
The ECB holds its next policy meeting on Thursday. “(The result) has marginally increased the likelihood of a crisis like in 2011 or something, but even a full-blown crisis ... is not in itself something that is a meaningful burden for the euro,” said Commerzbank’s head of currency strategy in Frankfurt, Ulrich Leuchtmann, referring to the spiralling of Italian borrowing costs five years ago.The ECB holds its next policy meeting on Thursday. “(The result) has marginally increased the likelihood of a crisis like in 2011 or something, but even a full-blown crisis ... is not in itself something that is a meaningful burden for the euro,” said Commerzbank’s head of currency strategy in Frankfurt, Ulrich Leuchtmann, referring to the spiralling of Italian borrowing costs five years ago.
“The only thing that would be a big burden (for the euro) is if the ECB reacts to it with more expansionary monetary policy, but ... Italian government bond spreads have reacted relatively benignly at the moment, and therefore it’s relatively unlikely that the ECB will do anything big.”“The only thing that would be a big burden (for the euro) is if the ECB reacts to it with more expansionary monetary policy, but ... Italian government bond spreads have reacted relatively benignly at the moment, and therefore it’s relatively unlikely that the ECB will do anything big.”
Some analysts said the euro was drawing some support from Sunday’s presidential election in Austria, where voters roundly rejected Norbert Hofer, the candidate vying to become the first freely elected far-right head of state in Europe since World War Two.Some analysts said the euro was drawing some support from Sunday’s presidential election in Austria, where voters roundly rejected Norbert Hofer, the candidate vying to become the first freely elected far-right head of state in Europe since World War Two.
Our Business Live blog has the latest:Our Business Live blog has the latest:
9.27am GMT9.27am GMT
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Lee Hardman, currency analyst as the Japanese finacial service company MUFG, says the relatively mild reaction on the markets reflects the irony that a no vote actually limits the risk of anti establishment parties gaining power in Italy.Lee Hardman, currency analyst as the Japanese finacial service company MUFG, says the relatively mild reaction on the markets reflects the irony that a no vote actually limits the risk of anti establishment parties gaining power in Italy.
He said:He said:
“By rejecting the constitutional reforms, the Senate will retain it powers acting as a counter balance to the Chamber of Deputies.“By rejecting the constitutional reforms, the Senate will retain it powers acting as a counter balance to the Chamber of Deputies.
“The system of checks and balances reduces the risk of an anti-establishment party like the Five Star Movement gaining power and being able to call a referendum on the euro.“The system of checks and balances reduces the risk of an anti-establishment party like the Five Star Movement gaining power and being able to call a referendum on the euro.
“The current updated electoral law, which favours majorities in the Chamber of Deputies but is based on more proportional rules in the Senate, also makes it difficult for the Five Star Movement to govern by favouring political fragmentation.“The current updated electoral law, which favours majorities in the Chamber of Deputies but is based on more proportional rules in the Senate, also makes it difficult for the Five Star Movement to govern by favouring political fragmentation.
“The award of a majority premium of seats to the most popular party in the Chamber of Deputies will be challenged in court, and the law is likely to be changed under a potential caretaker government to make it favour more the formation of coalitions rather than one party rule which would make it even more difficult for the Five Star Movement to govern.“The award of a majority premium of seats to the most popular party in the Chamber of Deputies will be challenged in court, and the law is likely to be changed under a potential caretaker government to make it favour more the formation of coalitions rather than one party rule which would make it even more difficult for the Five Star Movement to govern.
“The difficulty the Five Star Movement faces in coming into power is one of the reasons why the negative euro reaction has been more modest than some have feared.”“The difficulty the Five Star Movement faces in coming into power is one of the reasons why the negative euro reaction has been more modest than some have feared.”
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Leading Ukippers are in a jubilant mood.Leading Ukippers are in a jubilant mood.
Let's be clear: Italy has voted against the EU. Soon, there may no longer be an EU from which to Brexit.Let's be clear: Italy has voted against the EU. Soon, there may no longer be an EU from which to Brexit.
Has Nick Clegg called for a second referendum in Italy yet?Has Nick Clegg called for a second referendum in Italy yet?
Hope the exit polls in Italy are right. This vote looks to me to be more about the Euro than constitutional change.Hope the exit polls in Italy are right. This vote looks to me to be more about the Euro than constitutional change.
I really think Italy needs to leave the eurozone to prosper again. Hoping today's referendum will speed that day.I really think Italy needs to leave the eurozone to prosper again. Hoping today's referendum will speed that day.
But Brexit-backing Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan predicts that Italy won’t be leaving the Euro.But Brexit-backing Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan predicts that Italy won’t be leaving the Euro.
Unfortunately, I suspect Italy will keep the euro - despite, to a single approximation, not having grown since it joined in 1999.Unfortunately, I suspect Italy will keep the euro - despite, to a single approximation, not having grown since it joined in 1999.
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9.12am GMT
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Daniele Caprera, the UK spokesman for the Five Star Movement (M5S), has repeated his party’s opposition to Italy’s membership of the Euro.
He was asked on the BBC Radio 4’s Today programme if the M5S would hold a referendum on Euro membership if it gained power.
He said: “The Euro is a problem for Italy right now and we would like to get people’s voice on that. The Euro is damaging the Italian economy and Euro isn’t good enough for Italy right now.”
He dismissed talk of a global populist wave sweeping governments power as a “media agenda”, adding “this is mostly an Italian problem”.
Caprera added: “There is already a crisis in the EU. The current European system doesn’t meet the European people’s needs. It is more of economic system. It doesn’t help socially any of the problems that there are in Europe with immigration, and financial problems. Europe right now is being used to bring in cheap labour, to lower everybody’s salary. It is not a very good system.”
Asked if M5S was on the brink of power, Capera said: “I think so. We are very credible. We want to change Italy. We want to participate in Europe but we need somebody who will listen. So far they have failed ... All they have been focused on is economics and austerity.”
8.55am GMT
08:55
Sandro Gozi, Italy’s secretary for European affairs, says the project of European unity has lots a key player following the resignation of Matteo Renzi.
Interviewed on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme Gozi was asked whether the no vote represented the beginning of Europe breaking apart as he warned before the vote.
He said: “The beginning of Europe’s disintegration started with Brexit and it is up to the other 27 governments to relaunch Europe. That was our policy, that was our goal as the Renzi government. It is clear that Europe now loses a major political actor to its relaunch.”
Gozi accepted the referendum result will lead to political instability in Italy, but not financial uncertainty.
He said he did not see any risk to financial stability, but added there were “big questions” now over the reform project in Italy.
Gozi said: “It is clear that it was reformers against us: conservative camps, which was a mixture of has beens, many former prime ministers and the populists from the extreme right of the Northern League and the Five Star Movement.
He added: “It is clear that politically we are in a period of uncertainty. And it clear that the coalition of ‘no’ is coalition of resistance to political change. This is the big question on which we have to work in next days and months.”
8.34am GMT
08:34
Our Rome correspondent Stephanie Kirchgaessner warns against over interpreting the results from a binary choice. She points out that many of those who voted no are also bitterly opposed to the far right Northern League and the anti-establishment Five Star Movement.
There are no voters who were opposed to changes to constitution, and nothing else. Now they're aghast at being linked to Grillo + Salvini
8.17am GMT
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Follow the jittery reaction in the markets on the Guardian’s business blog.
8.04am GMT
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Has Renzi become the latest victim of the global rise in populism? Leading analysts differ. Richard Haas, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, says the result is ominous for western democracies and shows the current difficulty of governing from the centre.
Italian voters didn't just say no but hell no. Further evidence of how hard it is to govern from center. Ominous for western democracies.
But FT editor, Lionel Barber, advices against generalising from the result pointing to the particular problems facing Italy.
Health warning: Renzi is no victim of populist uprising: Italy has not been growing for two decades and referendums are protest vehicles
7.55am GMT
07:55
Leave.EU, the pro-Brexit campaign funded by former Ukip donor Arron Banks, has welcomed the Italy referendum result and hopes it will lead to Italy leaving the Euro.
The wave of people power has spread to Italy as voters force the resignation of PM Renzi. Next step: quit the Euro!https://t.co/p4Zmg7EeRQ pic.twitter.com/XoiIhMWT2b
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French president, François Hollande, says he respects the decision of Matteo Renzi to resign. In one of the first reactions from a fellow world leader, Hollande paid tribute to Renzi’s courage and dynamism.
Hollande, who last week announced he would not be contesting next year’s presidential race in France, said he shares Renzi’s desire to steer Europe towards jobs and growth.
In a statement from the Élysée Palace he said he hoped Italy could rebound from the current situation.
.@fhollande prend acte avec respect de la décision de @matteorenzi de démissionner à la suite du résultat négatif du référendum en Italie pic.twitter.com/XmqiiHLLvM
7.28am GMT
07:28
Matthew Weaver
What eurozone crisis? asks Politico Europe as it urges its readers to stay calm. In its daily Brussels Playbook briefing it says all the talk of crisis is just talk ... for now:
It’s nearly impossible for a solvent country to leave the euro, and the number of savers with more than €100,000 in fragile banks is very small indeed. While the euro dipped (before rallying) to $1.05 when No emerged victorious, it borders on voodoo-economics to equate small currency movements with fundamental economic strength or weakness.
Reality check: Italians voted to reject change. Leaving the eurozone is the biggest change imaginable and wasn’t on the ballot. Renzi’s resignation is no earthquake: Italy will have its 65th government since 1945 — it’ll likely manage. Not that the future looks pretty: The country’s inability to reform and move forward has seen it grow at an average of just 0.6 percent each year since 1960.
Analysis from Stefano Stefanini: The former diplomat and current La Stampa columnist advises Playbook readers that while Europe is concerned about Italy this morning, Italy is anxious about the post-Renzi government, not the euro. In the medium term, Italy now joins France at the top of the list of 2017 electoral worries. That doesn’t leave Angela Merkel in the clear: she’ll be called upon to help save the EU by helping to save Italy’s political centre.
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Italy, Austria and more: what we know so far
Claire Phipps
Italy
My experience in government ends here … I did all I could to bring this to victory. If you fight for an idea, you cannot lose.
Austria
small global turning of the tide in these uncertain, not to say hysterical and even stupid times.
It doesn’t fill me with joy when someone meddles from outside.
Meanwhile
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Italy’s Sky TG24, citing pollsters Quorum, says younger voters opted overwhelmingly for no, by 81% to 19% among 18- to 34-year-olds.
For the 35-54 age group, 67% chose no, with 33% ticking yes.
It was only among the 55+ voters that a majority went for yes, by 53% to 47%.
.@QuorumSAS per #SkyTG24: il #No stravince (81%) tra i giovani, il #Sì prevale solo di poco tra gli over 55 #SkyReferendum pic.twitter.com/zkyKlcPrsy