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MPs back 24-week abortion limit MPs back 24-week abortion limit
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Attempts to cut the upper limit for abortions from 24 to 22 weeks have been rejected by MPs after a free vote.Attempts to cut the upper limit for abortions from 24 to 22 weeks have been rejected by MPs after a free vote.
Tory MP Nadine Dorries, a former nurse who proposed a 20-week limit, said: "There comes a point when it has to be said this baby has a right to life."Tory MP Nadine Dorries, a former nurse who proposed a 20-week limit, said: "There comes a point when it has to be said this baby has a right to life."
But her plan was defeated by 332 votes to 190. A move to bring in a 22-week limit was opposed by 304 votes to 233.But her plan was defeated by 332 votes to 190. A move to bring in a 22-week limit was opposed by 304 votes to 233.
Pro-choice campaigners said there was no scientific evidence to justify a cut in the limit.Pro-choice campaigners said there was no scientific evidence to justify a cut in the limit.
Catholic cabinet ministers Ruth Kelly, Des Browne and Paul Murphy voted for cutting the limit to 12 weeks.Catholic cabinet ministers Ruth Kelly, Des Browne and Paul Murphy voted for cutting the limit to 12 weeks.
Government figures showed 193,737 women in England and Wales had an abortion in 2006.Government figures showed 193,737 women in England and Wales had an abortion in 2006.
In modern Britain the most dangerous place to be is in your mother's womb. It should be a place of sanctity Edward LeighConservative MP In quotes: Abortion debateHow MPs votedQ&A: Abortion lawIn modern Britain the most dangerous place to be is in your mother's womb. It should be a place of sanctity Edward LeighConservative MP In quotes: Abortion debateHow MPs votedQ&A: Abortion law
The votes followed two impassioned debates on the controversial Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill - the biggest shake-up of fertility law for nearly 20 years.The votes followed two impassioned debates on the controversial Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill - the biggest shake-up of fertility law for nearly 20 years.
Earlier the government saw off another challenge to the bill when MPs rejected a cross-party move for doctors to consider the need for a "father and a mother" before allowing IVF treatment.Earlier the government saw off another challenge to the bill when MPs rejected a cross-party move for doctors to consider the need for a "father and a mother" before allowing IVF treatment.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg voted for the 24-week limit to be maintained. Conservative leader David Cameron voted for the limit to be lowered to 22 weeks.Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg voted for the 24-week limit to be maintained. Conservative leader David Cameron voted for the limit to be lowered to 22 weeks.
'Botched' abortion
Health Minister Dawn Primarolo insisted there was no evidence requiring the abortion laws to be changed.
See a graph of abortion levelsSee a graph of abortion levels
Health Minister Dawn Primarolo insisted there was no evidence requiring the abortion laws to be changed.
She said: "The upper gestational limit for termination of pregnancy was set by Parliament in 1990 at 24 weeks because the scientific evidence of the time was that the threshold of viability had increased and babies were increasingly surviving at 24 weeks and above.She said: "The upper gestational limit for termination of pregnancy was set by Parliament in 1990 at 24 weeks because the scientific evidence of the time was that the threshold of viability had increased and babies were increasingly surviving at 24 weeks and above.
"That was the case in 1990 and it's certainly the case now.""That was the case in 1990 and it's certainly the case now."
But, David Jones, a professor of bio-ethics, said research on the survival rates for extremely premature babies was "disputed".
Opponents of the 24-week limit say babies can feel pain in abortionsOpponents of the 24-week limit say babies can feel pain in abortions
But, David Jones, a professor of bio-ethics, said research on the survival rates for extremely premature babies was "disputed".
Mrs Dorries said she believed the right of a woman to choose had its limits.Mrs Dorries said she believed the right of a woman to choose had its limits.
She said she reached this decision after seeing the "botched" abortion of a baby boy when she was a gynaecological nurse.She said she reached this decision after seeing the "botched" abortion of a baby boy when she was a gynaecological nurse.
"I believe a baby has rights. Those rights kick in if that baby were born it would have a chance of life and if it feels pain as part of the abortion," she said."I believe a baby has rights. Those rights kick in if that baby were born it would have a chance of life and if it feels pain as part of the abortion," she said.
'Protect the vulnerable''Protect the vulnerable'
Ex-minister Edward Leigh, a father-of-six, who pressed for a 12-week limit, said it would bring Britain into line with the rest of Europe.Ex-minister Edward Leigh, a father-of-six, who pressed for a 12-week limit, said it would bring Britain into line with the rest of Europe.
ENGLAND AND WALES ABORTIONS Under 9 weeks: 54.9%9-12 weeks: 34.3%13-19 weeks: 9.2% 20-24 weeks: 1.5% ONS figures from 2006 Abortion: Medical evidenceAbortions 1971-2006ENGLAND AND WALES ABORTIONS Under 9 weeks: 54.9%9-12 weeks: 34.3%13-19 weeks: 9.2% 20-24 weeks: 1.5% ONS figures from 2006 Abortion: Medical evidenceAbortions 1971-2006
"In modern Britain the most dangerous place to be is in your mother's womb. It should be a place of sanctity," he said."In modern Britain the most dangerous place to be is in your mother's womb. It should be a place of sanctity," he said.
He said "98% of abortions are social - only 1.3% are for foetuses which are handicapped, 0.4% are for risk to mother's life" and added: "It is a bleak picture of modern Britain ...I believe we should give that silent child a voice."He said "98% of abortions are social - only 1.3% are for foetuses which are handicapped, 0.4% are for risk to mother's life" and added: "It is a bleak picture of modern Britain ...I believe we should give that silent child a voice."
Labour's Claire Curtis-Thomas said she was not opposed to abortion, believing women had the right to choose.Labour's Claire Curtis-Thomas said she was not opposed to abortion, believing women had the right to choose.
But she added: "I can't accept that we keep the limit where it stands where there is a possibility of life. The majority of people are deeply uncomfortable with that prospect."But she added: "I can't accept that we keep the limit where it stands where there is a possibility of life. The majority of people are deeply uncomfortable with that prospect."
MPs debate abortion limit in Parliament
Labour's Chris McCafferty said restricting when a woman could have a termination "is just prolonging the agony" and was "cruel, cynical, ill-informed and inhumane".Labour's Chris McCafferty said restricting when a woman could have a termination "is just prolonging the agony" and was "cruel, cynical, ill-informed and inhumane".
MPs debate abortion limit in Parliament
"It's a basic misconception that women with an unwanted pregnancy should only enter into the actual decision-making process after counselling with someone they do not know," she said."It's a basic misconception that women with an unwanted pregnancy should only enter into the actual decision-making process after counselling with someone they do not know," she said.
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Lib Dem Dr John Pugh said: "There are people in our world today in no way inferior to us in capacity, intelligence and beauty who were born at 22 weeks. That ought to give us cause for reflection."Lib Dem Dr John Pugh said: "There are people in our world today in no way inferior to us in capacity, intelligence and beauty who were born at 22 weeks. That ought to give us cause for reflection."
Earlier a bid to cut the limit to 12 weeks was opposed by 393 votes to 71. A further attempt to get the limit down to 16 weeks was defeated by 387 votes to 84.Earlier a bid to cut the limit to 12 weeks was opposed by 393 votes to 71. A further attempt to get the limit down to 16 weeks was defeated by 387 votes to 84.
On Monday night a cross-party attempt to ban hybrid animal embryos was defeated, and a bid to ban "saviour siblings" was voted down by 342 votes to 163.On Monday night a cross-party attempt to ban hybrid animal embryos was defeated, and a bid to ban "saviour siblings" was voted down by 342 votes to 163.
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