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Labour AM warns of threat to devolution in Brexit vote wake | Labour AM warns of threat to devolution in Brexit vote wake |
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Disillusionment with politicians shown by the vote for Brexit could threaten the existence of the assembly in years to come, a Labour AM has warned. | |
Jeremy Miles, AM for Neath, said the institution should be on its "guard". | Jeremy Miles, AM for Neath, said the institution should be on its "guard". |
His colleague Lee Waters also suggested "complacency" could change the public's support for the assembly. | |
Welsh voters backed devolution in two referendums in 1997 and 2011, but rejected calls from Labour, Plaid Cymru and the Lib Dems to back EU membership. | |
Leave campaigner Mark Reckless, a UKIP AM, said it was more conceivable now that the "consensus on devolution" may not continue to attract the support of a "plurality of people". | |
The comments come after David Taylor, a former aide to ex-Labour cabinet minister Lord Hain, said devolution was under threat if politicians did not change attitudes over Brexit. | |
'Continued existence' | 'Continued existence' |
Mr Miles said: "People will have formed a view that coming out of the EU is the answer to a lot of what they are angry or concerned about." | Mr Miles said: "People will have formed a view that coming out of the EU is the answer to a lot of what they are angry or concerned about." |
But he said that "is not going to be the case". | But he said that "is not going to be the case". |
"So the disillusionment we've obviously seen with politicians in some sense, coming out of the Brexit decision, I think could be quite a lot worse in five years' time," he added. | "So the disillusionment we've obviously seen with politicians in some sense, coming out of the Brexit decision, I think could be quite a lot worse in five years' time," he added. |
Mr Miles argued that "it could easily be that we face challenge within that sort of time frame". | Mr Miles argued that "it could easily be that we face challenge within that sort of time frame". |
He said it was a "threat to the continued existence" of the institution. | He said it was a "threat to the continued existence" of the institution. |
"I am not saying in five years' time people will say they will want to get rid of the assembly but over time that could be the result of continued disillusionment." | "I am not saying in five years' time people will say they will want to get rid of the assembly but over time that could be the result of continued disillusionment." |
Mr Miles added he believed that the decision to vote to leave was, in part, "because of a lack of a full understanding of all that the European Union does", arguing that a lack of understanding was a potential threat to the assembly as an institution as well. | Mr Miles added he believed that the decision to vote to leave was, in part, "because of a lack of a full understanding of all that the European Union does", arguing that a lack of understanding was a potential threat to the assembly as an institution as well. |
He said the institution needed to be clearer and that AMs should "go out and explain to people what it is that we do". | He said the institution needed to be clearer and that AMs should "go out and explain to people what it is that we do". |
"We just have to be on our guard," he said. | "We just have to be on our guard," he said. |
The next assembly election is due to take place in 2021. | The next assembly election is due to take place in 2021. |
'Complacency' | 'Complacency' |
Lee Waters, Labour AM for Llanelli, said that public support for devolution had grown since the assembly was established. | Lee Waters, Labour AM for Llanelli, said that public support for devolution had grown since the assembly was established. |
"But the populist backlash towards everything resembling the establishment that has been unleashed by austerity is an unpredictable force," he said. | "But the populist backlash towards everything resembling the establishment that has been unleashed by austerity is an unpredictable force," he said. |
"To date the assembly has been seen to be on the right side of public opinion, but complacency could change that." | "To date the assembly has been seen to be on the right side of public opinion, but complacency could change that." |
Mr Waters said that the "case for the assembly was initially made on the back of devolution's ability to transform the Welsh economy". | |
"Despite continued efforts, on that test it has so far failed to fulfil its potential," he said. | "Despite continued efforts, on that test it has so far failed to fulfil its potential," he said. |
"We need to fight like the future of devolution depends upon it, and come together - cross-party - to agree an economic plan that can silence the doubters and deliver on devolution's promise." | "We need to fight like the future of devolution depends upon it, and come together - cross-party - to agree an economic plan that can silence the doubters and deliver on devolution's promise." |
Mark Reckless, a UKIP AM for South Wales East, said: "It was an enormous shock for a lot of people within that soft nationalist, Cardiff Bay establishment what happened [in the referendum]. | Mark Reckless, a UKIP AM for South Wales East, said: "It was an enormous shock for a lot of people within that soft nationalist, Cardiff Bay establishment what happened [in the referendum]. |
"I don't think they can properly say they speak for the people, for Wales on this issue. | "I don't think they can properly say they speak for the people, for Wales on this issue. |
'Blindsided' | 'Blindsided' |
"Because they've been blindsided by that, it is perhaps more conceivable than it was before that the consensus on devolution may not continue to attract the support of a plurality of people at least who vote in Wales." | "Because they've been blindsided by that, it is perhaps more conceivable than it was before that the consensus on devolution may not continue to attract the support of a plurality of people at least who vote in Wales." |
"Doing our job properly" would stop that becoming an actual threat, he argued: "Delivering high quality public services in the devolved areas... rather than naval gazing about further devolution." | "Doing our job properly" would stop that becoming an actual threat, he argued: "Delivering high quality public services in the devolved areas... rather than naval gazing about further devolution." |
But polling expert Professor Roger Scully, of the Wales Governance Centre, said he did not think "there's a major crisis" for devolution. | But polling expert Professor Roger Scully, of the Wales Governance Centre, said he did not think "there's a major crisis" for devolution. |
"All the evidence we have is that the majority of people in Wales are broadly supportive of devolution," he said. | "All the evidence we have is that the majority of people in Wales are broadly supportive of devolution," he said. |
"There has been this broadly anti-establishment mood - that mood was part of what led to the Brexit vote. | |
"This could coalesce around other parties and political institutions. | |
"It's not impossible to imagine some of this mood being directed towards the Welsh Assembly. | "It's not impossible to imagine some of this mood being directed towards the Welsh Assembly. |
"But it hasn't happened yet." | "But it hasn't happened yet." |
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