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Brexit live: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to resign after losing no-confidence vote Brexit live: Angela Eagle touted as unity candidate in Labour leadership crisis
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The latest departure from the Labour front bench is Liz McInnes, who was the Shadow Communities and Local Government Minister, according to reports.
It’s a significant one in that she is believed to have spoken up for Corbyn at the latest stormy Labour Parliamentary Party meeting.
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What is about European summits and the need for their participants to refuel by sinking their teeth into the meat of young calves?
The menu being served up to David Cameron and others in Brussels this evening has come through and, you’ve guessed it, there’s veal.
Entrée:
Salade de caille et haricots verts, croustillant de fruits secs
Quail and green bean salad with a crispy dried fruit pastry triangle
Plat principal:
Mignon de veau à la ficelle, petits légumes de saison
Poached veal tenderloin with seasonal baby vegetables
Dessert:
Coupe de fraises
Strawberries
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The figure most likely to emerge as an “agreed” challenger for the Labour leadership is Angela Eagle, the former shadow business secretary and shadow first secretary of state, according to the New Statesman’s George Eaton.
He also suggests that Dan Jarvis, the former soldier and backbencher who has long been touted as a potential leader, and the former minister Yvette Cooper, are in the loop.
MPs not naming candidate immediately because some still hope Corbyn may resign.
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Steven Morris
The first minister of Wales, Carwyn Jones, has warned that support for far right parties will increase if there are not clear answers from the leave side over what happens next.
Speaking during a debate on the outcome of the EU referendum at the Welsh assembly, Jones said if there were no answers, “people who have voted leave will take their anger out in different ways.”
Jones, the leader of Welsh Labour, added: “That will mean we will see support for extreme racist parties of the far right. That is my great worry. There is a duty and responsibility on all of us including the leave campaigners to explain what happens next and do that quickly. We need more than waffle, we need detail.”
He also accused the leader of the Tories in Wales, Andrew RT Davies, of launching a “fundamental attack on devolution”.
Davies has suggested funds that used to come from the EU to support deprived communities in Wales and farming could come directly from Westminster rather than be funelled through the Welsh government.
Jones said: “This [referendum] vote must not be used as a reason to leach power away from the people of Wales.”
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Back for a moment now to the larger fallout from the pro-Brexit vote and it has emerged that the British and Irish governments are set to discuss the fallout from the Brexit vote for the first time on Wednesday.Back for a moment now to the larger fallout from the pro-Brexit vote and it has emerged that the British and Irish governments are set to discuss the fallout from the Brexit vote for the first time on Wednesday.
Ireland’s Foreign Affairs Minister, Charlie Flanagan, and the Northern Ireland Secretary, Theresa Villiers, will talk about the impact of the referendum on cross-border relations when they meet in Belfast.Ireland’s Foreign Affairs Minister, Charlie Flanagan, and the Northern Ireland Secretary, Theresa Villiers, will talk about the impact of the referendum on cross-border relations when they meet in Belfast.
Speaking ahead of the visit to Northern Ireland, where 56% of those who voted backed Remain, Flanagan said:Speaking ahead of the visit to Northern Ireland, where 56% of those who voted backed Remain, Flanagan said:
It is also my first visit since last Thursday’s referendum and I want again to reassure people that the Irish Government in its contacts with EU partners continues to emphasise that the Northern Ireland and all-island dimensions will be an area for priority attention in all post-referendum negotiations processes, including in relation to the status of the border.It is also my first visit since last Thursday’s referendum and I want again to reassure people that the Irish Government in its contacts with EU partners continues to emphasise that the Northern Ireland and all-island dimensions will be an area for priority attention in all post-referendum negotiations processes, including in relation to the status of the border.
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Andrew SparrowAndrew Sparrow
In his interview on the BBC News (see 5.20pm) Alastair Campbell said that the Labour party was becoming a “sect” under Jeremy Corbyn. And he said that many of the new members who had joined the party because they liked Corbyn were not much help when it came to campaigning.In his interview on the BBC News (see 5.20pm) Alastair Campbell said that the Labour party was becoming a “sect” under Jeremy Corbyn. And he said that many of the new members who had joined the party because they liked Corbyn were not much help when it came to campaigning.
I’ve got to tell you, campaigning recently in the referendum, a lot of these new members - we did not see that many of them out there, delivering leaflets and knocking on doors.I’ve got to tell you, campaigning recently in the referendum, a lot of these new members - we did not see that many of them out there, delivering leaflets and knocking on doors.
There is academic research backing this up. Tim Bale, a politics professor at Queen Mary University of London, has carried out a survey of Labour members and registered supporters who signed up after the 2015 general election, as part of a research project into party membership, and he has found that the newcomers are not particularly active. Here’s an extract from his paper.There is academic research backing this up. Tim Bale, a politics professor at Queen Mary University of London, has carried out a survey of Labour members and registered supporters who signed up after the 2015 general election, as part of a research project into party membership, and he has found that the newcomers are not particularly active. Here’s an extract from his paper.
What is fascinating, however, is that if Labour is to win, it may have to do it largely without much practical help from its new members and registered supporters. Confirming the complaints of many a Labour MP and ward secretary, the newbies might talk (and tweet) a good game, but they don’t necessarily turn up to do the hard yards.What is fascinating, however, is that if Labour is to win, it may have to do it largely without much practical help from its new members and registered supporters. Confirming the complaints of many a Labour MP and ward secretary, the newbies might talk (and tweet) a good game, but they don’t necessarily turn up to do the hard yards.
Just over two-thirds of Labour’s post-GE2015 members and supporters (68%) have retweeted, posted or forwarded a message supporting the Labour party on social media and nearly nine out of ten (88%) claim to have signed a petition on behalf of the party. But only 15% of them have participated in door-to-door or telephone canvassing of voters or helped out at a party function, and only 28% of them claimed to have delivered leaflets. Indeed, some 63% said they had put in no time at all on behalf of the party during recent local, mayoral and devolved elections.Just over two-thirds of Labour’s post-GE2015 members and supporters (68%) have retweeted, posted or forwarded a message supporting the Labour party on social media and nearly nine out of ten (88%) claim to have signed a petition on behalf of the party. But only 15% of them have participated in door-to-door or telephone canvassing of voters or helped out at a party function, and only 28% of them claimed to have delivered leaflets. Indeed, some 63% said they had put in no time at all on behalf of the party during recent local, mayoral and devolved elections.
Finally, 61% of Labour’s new members say they have never attended a party meeting – which could mean that MPs worried about their obvious enthusiasm for deselecting those hostile to Jeremy may have less to fear than they might think.Finally, 61% of Labour’s new members say they have never attended a party meeting – which could mean that MPs worried about their obvious enthusiasm for deselecting those hostile to Jeremy may have less to fear than they might think.
That’s all from me for today.That’s all from me for today.
I’m handing over now to my colleague Ben Quinn.I’m handing over now to my colleague Ben Quinn.
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Jessica ElgotJessica Elgot
David Ward, who was chief of staff to the Labour leader John Smith, said that when the Labour party leadership election rules were revised in 1993, no one ever thought it was necessary to insist that a leader who lost a confidence motion would have to resign - because people thought it was obvious a leader could not survive in those circumstances.David Ward, who was chief of staff to the Labour leader John Smith, said that when the Labour party leadership election rules were revised in 1993, no one ever thought it was necessary to insist that a leader who lost a confidence motion would have to resign - because people thought it was obvious a leader could not survive in those circumstances.
He also said the current crisis showed why Ed Miliband was so wrong to abandon Labour’s electoral college. John Smith’s legacy has been “blown up”, he said. Ward told me: He also said the current crisis showed why Ed Miliband was so wrong to abandon Labour’s electoral college. John Smith’s legacy has been “blown up”, he said. Ward, who has elaborated on this thoughts in a blog, told me:
John Smith told me there would be no need for an ejector seat. If a leader lost a no confidence vote they would resign. You cannot survive. So we never thought it was necessary.John Smith told me there would be no need for an ejector seat. If a leader lost a no confidence vote they would resign. You cannot survive. So we never thought it was necessary.
Labour MPs represent millions of Labour voters, not a few hundred thousand members, which is why the electoral college was originally founded to represent Labour members, MPs and the unions.Labour MPs represent millions of Labour voters, not a few hundred thousand members, which is why the electoral college was originally founded to represent Labour members, MPs and the unions.
It was a huge folly to drop this. New Labour was obsessed with one member one vote and you can say now that they perhaps have reaped what they sowed. The people around Corbyn who are advising him actively want to create a crisis. That’s part of their world view. They would be quite happy to have a small rump party under the name Momentum socialists of 15 or so MPs. That would suit them just fine.It was a huge folly to drop this. New Labour was obsessed with one member one vote and you can say now that they perhaps have reaped what they sowed. The people around Corbyn who are advising him actively want to create a crisis. That’s part of their world view. They would be quite happy to have a small rump party under the name Momentum socialists of 15 or so MPs. That would suit them just fine.
I think Corbyn will lose an electoral challenge, young people particularly are horrified at the result of this referendum.I think Corbyn will lose an electoral challenge, young people particularly are horrified at the result of this referendum.
To see John Smith’s legacy blown up like this, it’s just so awful.To see John Smith’s legacy blown up like this, it’s just so awful.
And anyone who cannot fill a front bench cannot be credible as an alternative government.And anyone who cannot fill a front bench cannot be credible as an alternative government.
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The Labour party resignations continued. Sarah Champion says she has resigned as shadow minister for preventing abuse.The Labour party resignations continued. Sarah Champion says she has resigned as shadow minister for preventing abuse.
I have just stepped down from my shadow minister job, but not my responsibilities to my constituents, party or victims of abuseI have just stepped down from my shadow minister job, but not my responsibilities to my constituents, party or victims of abuse
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One quarter of Labour voters less likely to vote Labour after EU referendum, internal survey showsOne quarter of Labour voters less likely to vote Labour after EU referendum, internal survey shows
Rajeev SyalRajeev Syal
One in four Labour voters are less likely to vote for the party following the referendum campaign, a leaked internal survey shows.One in four Labour voters are less likely to vote for the party following the referendum campaign, a leaked internal survey shows.
A poll conducted by YouGov for the party shows that 27% of the party’s supporters at the last general election said they were less likely to support the party following the referendum campaign.A poll conducted by YouGov for the party shows that 27% of the party’s supporters at the last general election said they were less likely to support the party following the referendum campaign.
11% of voters said they were more likely to support the party since the campaign ended on Thursday.11% of voters said they were more likely to support the party since the campaign ended on Thursday.
The figures will be seized upon by critics of Corbyn who have claimed that Labour is losing its core voters under his leadership.The figures will be seized upon by critics of Corbyn who have claimed that Labour is losing its core voters under his leadership.
The YouGov survey interviewed 2013 British adults on 26 and 27 June. It asked: “Thinking particularly about the Labour party and the Labour campaign in the referendum, would you say that this made you more or less likely to vote Labour or has it made no difference?”The YouGov survey interviewed 2013 British adults on 26 and 27 June. It asked: “Thinking particularly about the Labour party and the Labour campaign in the referendum, would you say that this made you more or less likely to vote Labour or has it made no difference?”
It found that 6% of those who voted Labour in 2015 said it was much more likely they would vote Labour; 5% said a little more likely to vote Labour, making a total of 11%.It found that 6% of those who voted Labour in 2015 said it was much more likely they would vote Labour; 5% said a little more likely to vote Labour, making a total of 11%.
15% of Labour’s voters said they were a little less likely to vote Labour since the referendum campaign; 12% said it made them a lot less likely to vote Labour, making a total of 27%.15% of Labour’s voters said they were a little less likely to vote Labour since the referendum campaign; 12% said it made them a lot less likely to vote Labour, making a total of 27%.
But the survey also appears to confirm previous claims by Corbyn and his supporters that 65% of Labour supporters voted to remain. It finds that only 24% voted to leave while 9% did not vote.But the survey also appears to confirm previous claims by Corbyn and his supporters that 65% of Labour supporters voted to remain. It finds that only 24% voted to leave while 9% did not vote.
A spokesman for Corbyn said the party does not comment on internal surveys.A spokesman for Corbyn said the party does not comment on internal surveys.
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New Conservative party leader to be announced on Friday 9 SeptemberNew Conservative party leader to be announced on Friday 9 September
The Conservative party has announced that its new leader will be announced on 9 September. Its party board met today to consider proposals from the backbench 1922 committee, which said the new leader should be elected by 2 September. The board has tweaked the plans, and here are the key dates.The Conservative party has announced that its new leader will be announced on 9 September. Its party board met today to consider proposals from the backbench 1922 committee, which said the new leader should be elected by 2 September. The board has tweaked the plans, and here are the key dates.
Tomorrow - Nominations open.Tomorrow - Nominations open.
Thursday - Nominations close at noon.Thursday - Nominations close at noon.
Friday 9 September - New leader announced.Friday 9 September - New leader announced.
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Former civil service chief says Brexit withdrawal negotiations should not start until 2017Former civil service chief says Brexit withdrawal negotiations should not start until 2017
Phillip InmanPhillip Inman
Our economics correspondent Phillip Inman listened earlier to a hastily arranged treasury select committee hearing on the implications of Brexit.Our economics correspondent Phillip Inman listened earlier to a hastily arranged treasury select committee hearing on the implications of Brexit.
The meeting was attended by mostly remain MPs, with the addition of two Brexiters - Labour’s John Mann and Tory MP Jacob Rees Mogg. The experts interviewed by the committee were Lord Turnbull, a crossbench peer and former head of the civil service, Stephen King, the chief economist at HSBC and David Miles, an economist at Imprial College and former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee.The meeting was attended by mostly remain MPs, with the addition of two Brexiters - Labour’s John Mann and Tory MP Jacob Rees Mogg. The experts interviewed by the committee were Lord Turnbull, a crossbench peer and former head of the civil service, Stephen King, the chief economist at HSBC and David Miles, an economist at Imprial College and former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee.
Phillip writes:Phillip writes:
Lord Turnbull said the government would be misguided if it notified the European Commission of a decision to leave using article 50 before Whitehall was sure what ministers were asking for.Lord Turnbull said the government would be misguided if it notified the European Commission of a decision to leave using article 50 before Whitehall was sure what ministers were asking for.
Pressed by the committee chair Andrew Tyrie, he said it would be unwise to trigger article 50 until next year, and possibly not until the spring, though probably not later to avoid French and German officials being distracted by parliamentary and presidential elections, due in the autumn of 2017.Pressed by the committee chair Andrew Tyrie, he said it would be unwise to trigger article 50 until next year, and possibly not until the spring, though probably not later to avoid French and German officials being distracted by parliamentary and presidential elections, due in the autumn of 2017.
“What we don’t want is trigger article 50 and then for Angela Merkel to turn around and say she doesn’t want to talk to us because she has bigger fish to fry,” Turnbull said.“What we don’t want is trigger article 50 and then for Angela Merkel to turn around and say she doesn’t want to talk to us because she has bigger fish to fry,” Turnbull said.
“It’s a lot of work to get through. A new cabinet and front bench will need to get into their jobs and then into the details of trading arrangements, what we are going to offer on the movement of people. We are not going to get all we want on one and not make a concession on the other,” he said.“It’s a lot of work to get through. A new cabinet and front bench will need to get into their jobs and then into the details of trading arrangements, what we are going to offer on the movement of people. We are not going to get all we want on one and not make a concession on the other,” he said.
Turnbull said he supported basing the Brexit team in the cabinet office, but argued that Oliver Letwin should only be a stop gap head of the negotiating team.Turnbull said he supported basing the Brexit team in the cabinet office, but argued that Oliver Letwin should only be a stop gap head of the negotiating team.
“The government has started building an apparatus and I think it’s in the right place in the Cabinet Office. At the moment it is under the charge of Oliver Letwin, who I think is completely unsuitable in the longer term. He has spent the last six years as a kind of consigliere of the prime minister. He has been absolutely at the heart of No 10. And that is not the profile needed for carrying its work forward.”“The government has started building an apparatus and I think it’s in the right place in the Cabinet Office. At the moment it is under the charge of Oliver Letwin, who I think is completely unsuitable in the longer term. He has spent the last six years as a kind of consigliere of the prime minister. He has been absolutely at the heart of No 10. And that is not the profile needed for carrying its work forward.”
He said it needed someone committed to the cause of Brexit.He said it needed someone committed to the cause of Brexit.
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Ewen MacAskillEwen MacAskill
As long as Jeremy Corbyn has the support of the unions and the membership he has a strong chance of beating off the challenge. The unions provide the financial backing as well as contributing activists to organise campaign events and staff phone banks.As long as Jeremy Corbyn has the support of the unions and the membership he has a strong chance of beating off the challenge. The unions provide the financial backing as well as contributing activists to organise campaign events and staff phone banks.
Len McClusky, the leader of one of the biggest unions, Unite, confirmed his continued support for Corbyn in spite of speculation to the contrary. (See 5.14pm.) And Manuel Cortes, general secretary of the Transport Salaried Staffs’ Association, also backed Corbyn. He said: Len McCluskey, the leader of one of the biggest unions, Unite, confirmed his continued support for Corbyn in spite of speculation to the contrary. (See 5.14pm.) And Manuel Cortes, general secretary of the Transport Salaried Staffs’ Association, also backed Corbyn. He said:
It is almost unbelievable to watch the Labour party plunge into a crisis of its own making as its MPs involve themselves in childish, self-indulgent behaviour which doesn’t befit their office.It is almost unbelievable to watch the Labour party plunge into a crisis of its own making as its MPs involve themselves in childish, self-indulgent behaviour which doesn’t befit their office.
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Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair’s former communications chief, has just been on the BBC saying Jeremy Corbyn should resign. Campbell said that his own MP, Sir Keir Starmer, was excellent but he would find it hard to vote for him in the next general election if he thought that it would lead to Corbyn becoming prime minister. Corbyn was not up to the job, he said.Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair’s former communications chief, has just been on the BBC saying Jeremy Corbyn should resign. Campbell said that his own MP, Sir Keir Starmer, was excellent but he would find it hard to vote for him in the next general election if he thought that it would lead to Corbyn becoming prime minister. Corbyn was not up to the job, he said.
Campbell has written more about Corbyn on his blog. Here’s an extract:Campbell has written more about Corbyn on his blog. Here’s an extract:
MPs are of mixed quality. But they are not all daft. The avalanche of resignations of frontbenchers has come not merely because of [Corbyn’s] half-hearted, ineffectual campaigning in the referendum debate. It has come because they have seen up close that he cannot do the job. And we saw again last night, just as we saw in that car crash Vice documentary, is that he is great when telling the converted what they already think (and by the way large numbers in that crowd last night are dedicated to destroying Labour not saving it) but hopeless at winning over the people we are going to need to prevent an even bigger Tory majority in the coming election, whether it is Johnson, Theresa May or anyone else at the helm from Number 10.MPs are of mixed quality. But they are not all daft. The avalanche of resignations of frontbenchers has come not merely because of [Corbyn’s] half-hearted, ineffectual campaigning in the referendum debate. It has come because they have seen up close that he cannot do the job. And we saw again last night, just as we saw in that car crash Vice documentary, is that he is great when telling the converted what they already think (and by the way large numbers in that crowd last night are dedicated to destroying Labour not saving it) but hopeless at winning over the people we are going to need to prevent an even bigger Tory majority in the coming election, whether it is Johnson, Theresa May or anyone else at the helm from Number 10.
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Unite boss says Corbyn supporters 'will be ready' for any leadership election
Rajeev Syal
Len McCluskey, the head of Unite – the party’s biggest financial backer – said the behaviour of Labour’s MPs was “extraordinary” and had diverted attention from a Tory government in crisis.
If anyone wants to change the Labour leadership, they must do it openly and democratically through an election, not through resignations and pointless posturing. If there has to be such an election, Jeremy Corbyn’s supporters throughout the movement will be ready for it.
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A #SavingLabour website has been set up for people who want to send in a message saying they support calls for Jeremy Corbyn to resign.
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Labour source: "Rosie [chief whip] and John [PLP chair] have not asked JC to resign, contrary to some speculation."
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According to the New Statesman’s George Eaton, Rosie Winterton, the chief whip, and John Cryer, the chair of the PLP, are going to see Jeremy Corbyn to tell him that the game is up.
Chief whip and PLP chair going to tell Corbyn the game's up. Rebels' last hope of avoiding contest.
They are unlikely to have much luck. Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader, tried this on Monday and did not get anywhere.
In Rosa Prince’s very useful biography of Corbyn, two themes emerge very strongly. First, Corbyn is incredibly stubborn. He could not have spent his life campaigning for unfashionable causes if he wasn’t. And, second, in any contest between his principles/conscience and the interests of the PLP, the PLP always comes out second. That is why he merrily defied the Labour whip so often.
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Corbyn refuses to resign, saying no confidence vote has 'no constitutional legitimacy'
Anushka Asthana
Jeremy Corbyn has put out this statement.
In the aftermath of last week’s referendum, our country faces major challenges. Risks to the economy and living standards are growing. The public is divided.
The government is in disarray. Ministers have made it clear they have no exit plan, but are determined to make working people pay with a new round of cuts and tax rises.
Labour has the responsibility to give a lead where the government will not. We need to bring people together, hold the government to account, oppose austerity and set out a path to exit that will protect jobs and incomes.
To do that we need to stand together. Since I was elected leader of our party nine months ago, we have repeatedly defeated the government over its attacks on living standards.
Last month, Labour become the largest party in the local elections. In Thursday’s referendum, a narrow majority voted to leave, but two thirds of Labour supporters backed our call for a remain vote.
I was democratically elected leader of our party for a new kind of politics by 60% of Labour members and supporters, and I will not betray them by resigning. Today’s vote by MPs has no constitutional legitimacy.
We are a democratic party, with a clear constitution. Our people need Labour party members, trade unionists and MPs to unite behind my leadership at a critical time for our country.
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The New Statesman’s George Eaton says that, on the basis of these figures, Jeremy Corbyn would fail to get the 50 signatures he would need to nominate him for a leadership contest without the backing of 10 MEPs (who are now included in the group that can nominate candidates).
40 MPs back Corbyn. That means he'd need 10 MEPs if not on the ballot automatically.
But whether or not Corbyn would need to be nominated in a future leadership contest is a moot point. There is conflicting legal advice on this. His supporters have counsel’s opinion saying Corbyn would automatically be on the ballot, as a serving leader, but his opponents have legal advice saying the opposite.
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Sky’s Faisal Islam has the full figures.
Confirmed result from labour no confidence motion172 for40 against 4 spoilt ballots13 didn't vote
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By comparison, when Iain Duncan Smith faced a no confidence vote as Conservative party leader, he lost by 90 votes to 75. Duncan Smith subsequently resigned, and was replaced by Michael Howard.
But Duncan Smith was obliged to resign under Conservative party rules. No confidence motions in the leader do not feature in the Labour rulebook, which is why Corbyn says he can ignore today’s vote.
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That means 81% of the Labour MPs who voted have no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn.
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Corbyn loses no confidence motion by 172 votes to 40
This is from the Sunday Times’s James Lyons.
Labour MPs vote no confidence in Corbyn 172 to 40
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