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Welsh Assembly talks to be held to break Senedd deadlock Welsh Assembly talks to break first minister deadlock
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Formal talks between Labour and Plaid Cymru to try to break the deadlock over who the next first minister should be will begin on Friday. Formal talks between Labour and Plaid Cymru to try to break the deadlock in electing the next first minister will begin later.
The discussions come two days after an attempt to reinstall Carwyn Jones to the job failed in a tied Senedd vote. They come two days after an attempt to reinstall Carwyn Jones to the job failed in a tied Senedd vote.
BBC Wales also understands Mr Jones has discussed appointing the sole Liberal Democrat AM, Kirsty Williams, to a government job. BBC Wales also understands Mr Jones has discussed appointing Lib Dem AM Kirsty Williams as a cabinet minister.
Ms Williams was the only opposition AM to support Mr Jones in the vote. Ms Williams was the only opposition AM to support him against Plaid leader Leanne Wood in the vote.
The Conservatives, Plaid Cymru and the seven UKIP AMs have all backed Plaid leader Leanne Wood. Ms Wood was backed by the Conservatives and the seven UKIP AMs as well as her own party.
Labour fell short of a majority at the 5 May election and needs opposition support to govern.Labour fell short of a majority at the 5 May election and needs opposition support to govern.
Friday's talks between Labour and Plaid Cymru are due to be attended by Vale of Glamorgan AM Jane Hutt for Labour and Plaid Cymru's Simon Thomas, but not Mr Jones or Ms Wood, and will take place in Cardiff at midday. Jane Hutt will represent Labour and Simon Thomas Plaid Cymru in the talks taking place in Cardiff at midday, with neither party leader expected to attend.
Labour AM Vaughan Gething told BBC Wales on Thursday: "We do recognise we're a minority, so we're having conversations".Labour AM Vaughan Gething told BBC Wales on Thursday: "We do recognise we're a minority, so we're having conversations".
Mr Thomas added: "We are pleased that Labour has approached us in order to find consensus."Mr Thomas added: "We are pleased that Labour has approached us in order to find consensus."
Meanwhile, Labour and the Lib Dems confirmed talks were continuing between both sides, but refused to reveal what had been discussed. Plaid Cymru AMs insist they did not do a deal with other parties before the vote.
But Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies told BBC Radio Wales that his party and Plaid had held three sets of "substantial" talks beforehand involving two AMs from either side.
"You don't get a vote like that, where everyone votes in unison, especially a roll-call vote where everyone has to speak the name of the person they're voting for, without some degree of co-ordination," he said.
Mr Davies said there had been "an appetite to look at" different models of governing Wales which would have excluded Labour, but the talks failed to reach agreement.
The Welsh Tory leader said he had also spoken with Mr Jones, but without any resolution.
Meanwhile, Labour and the Lib Dems confirmed talks were continuing between their parties, but refused to reveal what had been discussed.
A well-placed Lib Dem source said Ms Williams had discussed an offer to take up a post as a cabinet minister.A well-placed Lib Dem source said Ms Williams had discussed an offer to take up a post as a cabinet minister.
A Labour source said there was "an open dialogue with Kirsty about what might be possible in the future".A Labour source said there was "an open dialogue with Kirsty about what might be possible in the future".
Even with Ms Williams as part of a new administration, Labour would still need some sort of arrangement with another party in order to endorse Mr Jones as first minister.Even with Ms Williams as part of a new administration, Labour would still need some sort of arrangement with another party in order to endorse Mr Jones as first minister.
Some UKIP AMs earlier suggested they could switch their votes if parts of the party's manifesto were made law, although Mr Gething said: "That is not something we would consider." Earlier on Thursday, some UKIP AMs suggested they could switch their votes if parts of the party's manifesto were made law, although Mr Gething said for Labour: "That is not something we would consider."
AMs have until 1 June to nominate a first minister or an another election will be held.AMs have until 1 June to nominate a first minister or an another election will be held.
At the assembly election Labour won 29 seats, Plaid Cymru 12, the Conservatives 11, UKIP seven and the Liberal Democrats one.At the assembly election Labour won 29 seats, Plaid Cymru 12, the Conservatives 11, UKIP seven and the Liberal Democrats one.