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Manus detention centre could stay, says Peter Dutton – live | |
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Bring detainees back to Australia, says Triggs | |
Over on ABC24 the Australian Human Rights Commissioner, Gillian Triggs has raised concerns with the prospect of Manus detainees being housed on Christmas Island, where the detention centre population is largely non-asylum related. | |
“People who are quite lawfully claiming rights as asylum seekers and refugees being in the same camps as those who have committed criminal offences and are subject to deportation, typically to New Zealand but of course to other countries as well on visa cancellations,” she said. | |
“I don’t think it’s a solution to keep warehousing these men. They’ve been held for years and they are in absolute despair about their futures. We need the political leadership to say ultimately we must accept our responsibility to bring these men back to Australia.” | |
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Manus detention centre could stay, says Dutton | |
Last bit from the Hadley interview: Dutton says he spoke with prime minister Malcolm Turnbull this morning and the PM is “100%” behind him. | |
Hadley raises the issue of foreign aid Australia gives to PNG. | |
“Can’t we use it as a little carrot or stick, and say ‘now listen fellas I know the Supreme Court made a decision but there are more things at play here than Manus Island’,” suggests Hadley. | |
Can’t we tell PNG that the aid will continue but it’s “quid pro quo and we can’t stick money into your joint if you’re not going to support us” he says. | |
Dutton says Australia will make its position very clear and will work through the situation with them. | |
“I think there is an opportunity for the detention centre to remain in place in a different form.” | |
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A few more key comments from Dutton’s interview with Hadley just now. | |
Despite comments from PNG representatives - which I’ll bring more on shortly - Dutton is maintaining that Australia is not bound at all by the PNG supreme court ruling, and that the 850 men are not Australia’s responsibility. | |
The supreme court ruling doesn’t require the centre to be closed immediately. An “open centre-style arrangement... may deal with some of the concerns the judges had” and allow a centre to continue operating. | |
Australia will work with PNG on the options “available to them”, says Dutton, but the starting and finishing point is No Settlement In Australia. | |
There is a “difficulty” with Iranian detainees as their country own’t take forced returns. “The PNG government will have to sort that out, and it’s an issue for them.” | |
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Dutton is asked about Omid, whom Guardian Australia understands is on his way to Brisbane for treatment. | Dutton is asked about Omid, whom Guardian Australia understands is on his way to Brisbane for treatment. |
“It’s a terrible situation, nobody wants to see anyone self harm,” Dutton says. | “It’s a terrible situation, nobody wants to see anyone self harm,” Dutton says. |
Omid is in a “very, very dire situation” and the government has sympathy for him and his family, “but the government is not going to change its policy”. | Omid is in a “very, very dire situation” and the government has sympathy for him and his family, “but the government is not going to change its policy”. |
“People aren’t going to stay permanently in our country, even if they come here temporarily for medical treatment.” | “People aren’t going to stay permanently in our country, even if they come here temporarily for medical treatment.” |
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This will be dealt with “in the best interests of our country,” says Dutton. | This will be dealt with “in the best interests of our country,” says Dutton. |
The minister is predicting it will take a couple of months to go through the supreme court decision and work out the options, which takes us beyond the next election. | The minister is predicting it will take a couple of months to go through the supreme court decision and work out the options, which takes us beyond the next election. |
He says Labor, and particularly Marles’s response, has been “ridiculous”. Hadley calls it acting like a “headless chook”. | He says Labor, and particularly Marles’s response, has been “ridiculous”. Hadley calls it acting like a “headless chook”. |
“They created this problem, Ray. They created drownings at sea,” says Dutton. | “They created this problem, Ray. They created drownings at sea,” says Dutton. |
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“We’ve paid the PNG government a lot of money,” says Hadley. | “We’ve paid the PNG government a lot of money,” says Hadley. |
“A lot of money,” agrees Dutton. | “A lot of money,” agrees Dutton. |
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Peter Dutton is talking to Ray Hadley on 2GB. | Peter Dutton is talking to Ray Hadley on 2GB. |
He’s saying there’s plenty of room on Nauru “because we stopped the boats”. But he adds “we don’t need to be talking about Christmas Island or Nauru or anywhere else” because PNG has to go through the supreme court judgement and look at its options. | He’s saying there’s plenty of room on Nauru “because we stopped the boats”. But he adds “we don’t need to be talking about Christmas Island or Nauru or anywhere else” because PNG has to go through the supreme court judgement and look at its options. |
“The 850 people under the MOU [memorandum of understanding] are the responsibility of the PNG government,” he tells Hadley. | “The 850 people under the MOU [memorandum of understanding] are the responsibility of the PNG government,” he tells Hadley. |
Which is a little contrary to what PNG says. | Which is a little contrary to what PNG says. |
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Refugee flown to Brisbane after self-immolation | Refugee flown to Brisbane after self-immolation |
23-year-old Omid, who suffered severe burns after setting himself alight yesterday, has reportedly left Nauru in an air ambulance, bound for a Brisbane hospital. | 23-year-old Omid, who suffered severe burns after setting himself alight yesterday, has reportedly left Nauru in an air ambulance, bound for a Brisbane hospital. |
He remains in a critical condition, and heavily sedated. Before yesterday’s protest, he had reportedly told other asylum seekers he intended to burn himself in protest, but that the threat wasn’t taken seriously. | He remains in a critical condition, and heavily sedated. Before yesterday’s protest, he had reportedly told other asylum seekers he intended to burn himself in protest, but that the threat wasn’t taken seriously. |
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Some more detail on Dutton’s latest comments. | Some more detail on Dutton’s latest comments. |
The minister told Sky News this morning Nauru did have the capacity to take additional detainees, but he was still talking with the PNG government about options. | The minister told Sky News this morning Nauru did have the capacity to take additional detainees, but he was still talking with the PNG government about options. |
Labor spokesman Richard Marles has also been pushing for the government to work out an arrangement to keep the PNG arrangement going in some form. | Labor spokesman Richard Marles has also been pushing for the government to work out an arrangement to keep the PNG arrangement going in some form. |
The supreme court decision was comprehensive, and dismissed several amendments made by the government previously which had sought to cement the legality of the detention centre. Any new change now would have to be much stronger to get around the court’s findings. | |
Regarding the Christmas Island option, Dutton has been specific in his language, saying that none of the men from Manus would ever be “permanently settled” in Australia. | Regarding the Christmas Island option, Dutton has been specific in his language, saying that none of the men from Manus would ever be “permanently settled” in Australia. |
That language would seem to leave open the possibility for all, or some, of the men from Manus being transferred to the Christmas Island detention centre. | That language would seem to leave open the possibility for all, or some, of the men from Manus being transferred to the Christmas Island detention centre. |
Read more here. | Read more here. |
Related: Manus refugees likely to be relocated to Christmas Island and Nauru | Related: Manus refugees likely to be relocated to Christmas Island and Nauru |
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Good morning, | Good morning, |
Two days ago Australia’s immigration policy looked set in stone ahead of the July election. | Two days ago Australia’s immigration policy looked set in stone ahead of the July election. |
Then the supreme court of Papua New Guinea ruled the detention of asylum seekers and refugees was illegal and contrary to the country’s constitution and migration law. | Then the supreme court of Papua New Guinea ruled the detention of asylum seekers and refugees was illegal and contrary to the country’s constitution and migration law. |
In response, the PNG prime minister, Peter O’Neill announced the Manus Island centre will close, and said it was Australia’s responsibility to find alternative arrangements for those of the 850 male detainees who did not settle in PNG as refugees. | In response, the PNG prime minister, Peter O’Neill announced the Manus Island centre will close, and said it was Australia’s responsibility to find alternative arrangements for those of the 850 male detainees who did not settle in PNG as refugees. |
Australian immigration minister, Peter Dutton, had previously sought to distance his government from such responsibility. | Australian immigration minister, Peter Dutton, had previously sought to distance his government from such responsibility. |
Nauru has reached an “emergency situation”, advocates have said, after a young man set himself alight in front of UNHCR representatives yesterday, and a number of other asylum seekers and refugees attempted self-harm. | Nauru has reached an “emergency situation”, advocates have said, after a young man set himself alight in front of UNHCR representatives yesterday, and a number of other asylum seekers and refugees attempted self-harm. |
Tensions and desperation among those on Nauru has been exacerbated by the news out of PNG, people on the island have said. | Tensions and desperation among those on Nauru has been exacerbated by the news out of PNG, people on the island have said. |
Which brings us to this morning. | Which brings us to this morning. |
Dutton has flagged the possibility of sending the Manus men to Nauru or Christmas Island. | Dutton has flagged the possibility of sending the Manus men to Nauru or Christmas Island. |
“There is capacity [on Nauru] but we’re talking with the PNG government about what options are available in PNG and we’ll continue those discussions with them,” he said this morning. | “There is capacity [on Nauru] but we’re talking with the PNG government about what options are available in PNG and we’ll continue those discussions with them,” he said this morning. |
PNG high commissioner to Australia, Charles Lepani, says discussions will start next week on working out a plan to close the centre, but he maintained that responsibility for the detainees not settling in PNG was Australia’s, which must take them back. | PNG high commissioner to Australia, Charles Lepani, says discussions will start next week on working out a plan to close the centre, but he maintained that responsibility for the detainees not settling in PNG was Australia’s, which must take them back. |
We’ll bring you developments throughout the day. Stay with us. | We’ll bring you developments throughout the day. Stay with us. |
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