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Democratic debate: Clinton and Sanders square off in Brooklyn – live | Democratic debate: Clinton and Sanders square off in Brooklyn – live |
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Navy yard debate set to float | |
Break a bottle on the bow – this debate is about to begin, at 9pm ET (if CNN is to be believed, which, sometimes they’ve fudged the start time). If you’re just joining us, welcome to our live blog coverage of the ninth Democratic presidential debate, staging here in Brooklyn just five days before New York state holds its primary. | |
To break through to New York Democrats who may long ago have decided to support Hillary Clinton, the former home-state senator, Bernie Sanders may need to go at Clinton directly, perhaps along the lines of attack he’s been trying out on the campaign trail: she takes money from banks and she’s a longtime member of the corrupt political class. | |
As the frontrunner, Clinton may not need to counterattack so much as to parry Sanders without losing her balance and saying anything that could alienate voters already in her corner (see: Clinton, Bill). But Hillary Clinton has shown an appetite to scrap in the last weeks and there’s no reason to believe she’ll leave it home tonight. | |
After New York falls on Tuesday, a string of primaries in northeastern states will lead the race to Indiana and then in a headlong rush toward California on 7 June and the nomination. We’re almost there, faithful readers – so, who do you think will turn in the stronger performance tonight? What are you looking to hear? Whom are you rooting for? | |
Thanks for reading and, as always, don’t be shy: join the fun in the comments! | |
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Just over seven years ago, Marcelo Lucero was attacked by seven teenagers in Patchogue, NY and stabbed to death on the street as the teens reportedly yelled “Fucking Mexicans. Fucking illegals”. | |
Attacking Latinos was allegedly a regular sport to the local high schoolers, who apparently didn’t know or care that Lucero and the friend who was attacked with him was Ecuadorian; Lucero was the only Latino that the teens killed in their spree of violence. | |
On Thursday, locals - including many clergy from Long Island and a group of immigrants from Queens – gathered to memorialize Lucero and call for the village to install a memorial on the spot. Two blocks away at a local night club, almost visible from the spot where Lucero died, hundreds of supporters gathered to see Donald Trump speak. Some of them carried anti-immigrant signs, waving them as traffic passed by. | |
At the vigil for Marcelo Lucero, who was killed in a hate crime in Patchogue, NY where Trump is holding a rally. pic.twitter.com/QlXv2EBKPK | |
As member after member of the clergy took to the microphone on the windswept corner of Railroad Ave and Funaro Street, trains passed by and a helicopter slowly circling over head. Participants were called upon to pray, asked to join in with a rendition of Amazing Grace and called upon to approach their neighbors with love and compassion, not hatred. | |
The bishop of the Episcopal diocese of Long Island, Reverend Lawrence C Provenzano, told the crowd that it wasn’t Trump who could lead to a new American day: “God’s love and God’s peace will make America great again”, he promised. | |
Mourners march from the spot where Marcelo Lucero died towards the Trump rally, TV trucks visible. pic.twitter.com/uhzcnHqCRB | |
At the end, vigil-goers gathered around a portrait of Lucero, as his brother Josello – teary-eyed – thanked them for remembering his brother and for coming out year after year. Josello Lucero, who speaks about anti-immigrant violence at schools around the area and started a scholarship in his brother’s name, began to hug friends that he recognized as a group of young immigrants unfurled a banner and walked up the block towards the Trump rally, where the towers from the satellite trucks were visible. | |
They stood as a silent rebuke to Trump and his followers who, at that point, were all comfortably inside the Emporium nightclub where the topic was reportedly bringing jobs back to Long Island. | |
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She’s been at this awhile: | |
#TBT to Hillary in a 2000 debate. Tune in for tonight's #DemDebate at 9:00 p.m. ET.https://t.co/CvuiR7bfch | |
Sanders tweets about the Tuesday vote: | |
New York – the entire country will be watching as the results come in on Tuesday. Commit to vote for Bernie today: https://t.co/a0oGdtKUBz | |
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The Guardian’s Jana Kasperkevic has been following Fight for $15 protesters on a march across midtown to the GOP gala (see earlier dispatches here). After hours of protesting on an increasing chilly night, many of the marchers have dispersed, Jana reports. | |
Most of the crowd has dispersed. But a small crowd right in front of Cipriani's is kind of slowing down the traffic on sidewalk | |
Between 8-8.30pm, Jana writes, most of the crowd outside the Grant Hyatt dispersed with just a few dozen protesters remaining. While the New York GOP finance chair said that ten protesters were arrested, an NYPD spokesman told the Guardian that since the event was still ongoing he was unable to confirm any numbers. | |
Despite standing out for hours, the protesters did not catch a glimpse of Donald Trump, whom they have spent the evening protesting. | |
What it looks like now https://t.co/urhKpwVGwj | |
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Here’s a taste of some of the peppery rhetoric in the Democratic campaign in the days leading up to tonight’s debate: | Here’s a taste of some of the peppery rhetoric in the Democratic campaign in the days leading up to tonight’s debate: |
Sanders v Clinton: war of words ahead of New York primary – video | Sanders v Clinton: war of words ahead of New York primary – video |
Sanders: Clinton is not qualified to be president | Sanders: Clinton is not qualified to be president |
Clinton: ‘I’m sick of Sanders’ campaign’s lies’ | Clinton: ‘I’m sick of Sanders’ campaign’s lies’ |
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Chocolate elephants and spirited protests at GOP gala | Chocolate elephants and spirited protests at GOP gala |
Alan Yuhas | Alan Yuhas |
On the inside of the Republican dinner, where seats cost $1,000 a plate, donors are entering the ballroom to find plates of chocolate and strawberry elephants waiting for them, writes the Guardian’s Alan Yuhas: | On the inside of the Republican dinner, where seats cost $1,000 a plate, donors are entering the ballroom to find plates of chocolate and strawberry elephants waiting for them, writes the Guardian’s Alan Yuhas: |
Chocolate and strawberry elephants at the Republican dinner for $1,000 a seat. pic.twitter.com/nqx1gmvhxT | Chocolate and strawberry elephants at the Republican dinner for $1,000 a seat. pic.twitter.com/nqx1gmvhxT |
The event is off to a late start because of security concerns: dozens of NYPD and secret service officers are roaming the halls and putting guests and press through long security check points. | The event is off to a late start because of security concerns: dozens of NYPD and secret service officers are roaming the halls and putting guests and press through long security check points. |
While reporters were lined up awaiting their own turn through the metal detectors, a band of protesters broke out of the elevators in their hallway and pushed through to the barrier overlooking the lobby. | While reporters were lined up awaiting their own turn through the metal detectors, a band of protesters broke out of the elevators in their hallway and pushed through to the barrier overlooking the lobby. |
With a banner declaring Republicans ‘the party of hate’ and shouting ‘presente!’ they called out various groups to rally against the conservative party: black Americans, Hispanic Americans, gay Americans. | With a banner declaring Republicans ‘the party of hate’ and shouting ‘presente!’ they called out various groups to rally against the conservative party: black Americans, Hispanic Americans, gay Americans. |
Within minutes secret service and hotel security also swept into the already crowded hallway, grabbing the banner of a protester who leaned over the balcony and pulling him back from the edge. More agents arrived to corral the protesters in a circle of linked arms, the amorphous security bubble forcing its way out from the crowd of reporters and off to the lobby. | Within minutes secret service and hotel security also swept into the already crowded hallway, grabbing the banner of a protester who leaned over the balcony and pulling him back from the edge. More agents arrived to corral the protesters in a circle of linked arms, the amorphous security bubble forcing its way out from the crowd of reporters and off to the lobby. |
Then it was back to quiet and waiting for entry to the ballroom and speeches by John Kasich, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. | Then it was back to quiet and waiting for entry to the ballroom and speeches by John Kasich, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. |
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What’s the state of the race? Hillary Clinton is ahead and it would take a major acceleration by Bernie Sanders to catch her. | What’s the state of the race? Hillary Clinton is ahead and it would take a major acceleration by Bernie Sanders to catch her. |
Sanders is estimated to need to capture 56% of all remaining delegates to win the nomination. His supporters might point out he won the last eight states. Her supporters might point out those were demographically favorable to him and included a lot of caucuses and she now appears poised to go on a streak of her own. His supporters might point out that her delegate lead is a lot smaller if you subtract superdelegates. Her supporters might reply that it’s still a lead, it’s growing and by the way she leads by over 2m popular votes too. | Sanders is estimated to need to capture 56% of all remaining delegates to win the nomination. His supporters might point out he won the last eight states. Her supporters might point out those were demographically favorable to him and included a lot of caucuses and she now appears poised to go on a streak of her own. His supporters might point out that her delegate lead is a lot smaller if you subtract superdelegates. Her supporters might reply that it’s still a lead, it’s growing and by the way she leads by over 2m popular votes too. |
You get the idea. Below is a chart comparing the candidates’ delegate riches – and for state-by-state hauls, visit our comprehensive delegate tracker here. | You get the idea. Below is a chart comparing the candidates’ delegate riches – and for state-by-state hauls, visit our comprehensive delegate tracker here. |
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The question this direly worded fundraising email from the Republican National Committee elides is: what if Bernie Sanders is the nominee? | The question this direly worded fundraising email from the Republican National Committee elides is: what if Bernie Sanders is the nominee? |
Pretty grim and fatalistic fundraising email from the RNC pic.twitter.com/EzscEuLvPB | Pretty grim and fatalistic fundraising email from the RNC pic.twitter.com/EzscEuLvPB |
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A battle to cheer loudest outside debate | A battle to cheer loudest outside debate |
Lauren Gambino | Lauren Gambino |
Outside the Navy Yard in advance of the debate, two groups of Hillary Clinton supporters and volunteers volleyed chants from either side of the fortress-style entrance, writes the Guardian’s Lauren Gambino: | Outside the Navy Yard in advance of the debate, two groups of Hillary Clinton supporters and volunteers volleyed chants from either side of the fortress-style entrance, writes the Guardian’s Lauren Gambino: |
Yards away, a less organized rally for Bernie Sanders drew honks from a fleet of cars with the group, Black Men for Bernie. | Yards away, a less organized rally for Bernie Sanders drew honks from a fleet of cars with the group, Black Men for Bernie. |
Entourage of Black Men for Bernie cars. pic.twitter.com/e1nwFcuK3b | Entourage of Black Men for Bernie cars. pic.twitter.com/e1nwFcuK3b |
On the Clinton side, Jenniece Centrella wore a Hillary campaign button pinned to her beanie. Centrella, an architect who lives in Brooklyn, said she’s worried New York voters might get complacent after multiple polls showed Clinton winning her adopted home state by a wide margin. | On the Clinton side, Jenniece Centrella wore a Hillary campaign button pinned to her beanie. Centrella, an architect who lives in Brooklyn, said she’s worried New York voters might get complacent after multiple polls showed Clinton winning her adopted home state by a wide margin. |
Jenniece Centrella says she's voting for the most "qualified" candidate in the race pic.twitter.com/NQvqbznduP | Jenniece Centrella says she's voting for the most "qualified" candidate in the race pic.twitter.com/NQvqbznduP |
“We don’t just need to do well, we need to do really well,” she said, shouting over a campaign volunteer banging a plastic cone. “She’s up by over 2 million popular votes. She deserves this. We need a big win in New York.” | “We don’t just need to do well, we need to do really well,” she said, shouting over a campaign volunteer banging a plastic cone. “She’s up by over 2 million popular votes. She deserves this. We need a big win in New York.” |
On the other side, Jessiah Cox, waved a sign that said “Brooklyn is Berning” and “Talk Bernie to me”. | On the other side, Jessiah Cox, waved a sign that said “Brooklyn is Berning” and “Talk Bernie to me”. |
At just 16, Cox is not eligible to vote in this presidential election, but he still wants to have his say. | At just 16, Cox is not eligible to vote in this presidential election, but he still wants to have his say. |
“This election is gonna affect my future,” he said. “That’s why I’m here at this rally. I want to be a part of electing the president.” | “This election is gonna affect my future,” he said. “That’s why I’m here at this rally. I want to be a part of electing the president.” |
At 16, Jessiah Cox can't vote yet but that doesn't mean he can't have a say! pic.twitter.com/3d0wmek0TX | At 16, Jessiah Cox can't vote yet but that doesn't mean he can't have a say! pic.twitter.com/3d0wmek0TX |
Cox attended Sanders’s rally in Washington Square Park last night, and said he left inspired. | Cox attended Sanders’s rally in Washington Square Park last night, and said he left inspired. |
“He’s so genuine,” Cox gushed. “As a young black man, I feel he’s the one who will genuinely help us.” | “He’s so genuine,” Cox gushed. “As a young black man, I feel he’s the one who will genuinely help us.” |
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Hello, and welcome to our live-wire coverage of the ninth Democratic presidential debate. Tonight your blog is parked in the Brooklyn Navy Yard – building 269 to be precise – and as obsolete shipyards go, it’s a beaut: | Hello, and welcome to our live-wire coverage of the ninth Democratic presidential debate. Tonight your blog is parked in the Brooklyn Navy Yard – building 269 to be precise – and as obsolete shipyards go, it’s a beaut: |
Good place for a debate. pic.twitter.com/N5nBYPkTnf | Good place for a debate. pic.twitter.com/N5nBYPkTnf |
They made ships here for 150 years, and if the business at hand were not to keep up with the cut and thrust onstage, we couldn’t see not taking up the local site guide on its invitation to visit the dry dock that has been in operation since before the civil war or the 24-acre navy hospital campus “that is virtually frozen in time”. Definitely the coolest debate venue since they parked that Air Force One behind the stage at the Reagan Library. | They made ships here for 150 years, and if the business at hand were not to keep up with the cut and thrust onstage, we couldn’t see not taking up the local site guide on its invitation to visit the dry dock that has been in operation since before the civil war or the 24-acre navy hospital campus “that is virtually frozen in time”. Definitely the coolest debate venue since they parked that Air Force One behind the stage at the Reagan Library. |
Which candidate will leave here with full sails? (Boats built here must not have unfurled until they got south of the harbor, but you catch the drift.) Vermont senator Bernie Sanders and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton are scheduled to take the stage at 9pm ET. | Which candidate will leave here with full sails? (Boats built here must not have unfurled until they got south of the harbor, but you catch the drift.) Vermont senator Bernie Sanders and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton are scheduled to take the stage at 9pm ET. |
Much is being made of a supposed uptick in the rhetorical temper of the race in the weeks before the New York primary on Tuesday. There was a kerfuffle about who’s qualified to be president, Sanders has been hitting Clinton for taking hundreds of thousands of dollars for speeches to banks [Clarification: that’s per speech], and Clinton has gone after Sanders on guns and foreign policy acumen. | Much is being made of a supposed uptick in the rhetorical temper of the race in the weeks before the New York primary on Tuesday. There was a kerfuffle about who’s qualified to be president, Sanders has been hitting Clinton for taking hundreds of thousands of dollars for speeches to banks [Clarification: that’s per speech], and Clinton has gone after Sanders on guns and foreign policy acumen. |
We may be imagining it, but the last two dozen or so times we did this, counting the Republican ones, the action on stage has seemed to have a way of failing to live up to the pre-bout hype. (One memorable exception being Marco Rubio’s last couple debates, in which he and Ted Cruz took turns throwing haymakers at Donald Trump.) | We may be imagining it, but the last two dozen or so times we did this, counting the Republican ones, the action on stage has seemed to have a way of failing to live up to the pre-bout hype. (One memorable exception being Marco Rubio’s last couple debates, in which he and Ted Cruz took turns throwing haymakers at Donald Trump.) |
That’s not to downplay the significance of what we could see tonight. According to most counters and analysts, if Sanders doesn’t break through in New York next week, he could slide and bump through a thicket of upcoming north-eastern states – Maryland, Delaware, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania and Connecticut – without gaining the traction he needs to challenge the frontrunner for the nomination. | That’s not to downplay the significance of what we could see tonight. According to most counters and analysts, if Sanders doesn’t break through in New York next week, he could slide and bump through a thicket of upcoming north-eastern states – Maryland, Delaware, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania and Connecticut – without gaining the traction he needs to challenge the frontrunner for the nomination. |
So it’s Sanders’ night to make an irresistible case and Clinton’s night to control the lead she has long enjoyed. Thank you for following along here, and as usual, please jump into the comments with the full force of your insight, wit and wisdom. | So it’s Sanders’ night to make an irresistible case and Clinton’s night to control the lead she has long enjoyed. Thank you for following along here, and as usual, please jump into the comments with the full force of your insight, wit and wisdom. |
Now if you’ll excuse us for a moment ... | Now if you’ll excuse us for a moment ... |
Will not abandon #DemDebate duties ... pic.twitter.com/JMqDKhYlzo | Will not abandon #DemDebate duties ... pic.twitter.com/JMqDKhYlzo |
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