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Republican debate: Trump defends immigration stance against Cruz and Rubio – live | |
(35 minutes later) | |
1.59am GMT | |
01:59 | |
Cruz joins attack on Trump | |
Cruz says he finds it funny that Trump pretends he invented the immigration issue. He says when he was fighting the Gang of 8 immigration reform proposal, “Where was Donald? He was firing Dennis Rodman on Celebrity Apprentice.” | |
Laugh line. | |
Then Trump hits Cruz for being unpopular. “Nobody likes you.” Trump: | |
“I get along with everybody. You get along with none of them... you don’t have one Republican senator backing you, and you work with these people... you should be ashamed of yourself.” | |
Cruz flips the attack. “Donald, if you want to be liked in Washington, that’s not a good attribute for president,” he says. He also hits Trump for hiring foreigners. | |
“Anyone who really cared about illegal immigration wouldn’t be hiring illegal immigrants,” Cruz says. | |
Trump hits back at Cruz, calling him duplicitous for leaving a 2012 loan from Goldman Sachs after financial disclosure forms. | |
1.56am GMT | |
01:56 | |
Rubio hits Trump on immigration | |
Rubio says that he would secure the border “before we doing anything on immigration.” Then he turns to Trump: “a lot of these positions that he’s now taking are new to him.” He mentions a 2011 Trump position in favor of a path to citizenship and the fact that Trump criticized 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney for talking about “self-deportation.” | |
Rubio goes straight to the attack. | |
He then picks up on a New York Times report that Trump hired foreign workers on immigration visas instead of Americans at a Florida resort. | |
Trump defends himself: | |
“As far as the people that I’ve hired... during the absolute prime season... you could not get help, it’s the up season... everybody agrees with me on that. They were part-time jobs.. because you couldn’t get help in that hot, hot section of Florida.” | |
Then Trump defends his criticism of Mitt Romney: | |
“He should’ve won that election... he ran a terrible campaign, he was a terrible candidate, that’s an election that should’ve been won.” | |
Applause. | |
But Rubio will not let him go: | |
“You did criticize him for using the term “self-deportation.” Then Rubio says, “you’re the only one on this stage for hiring people to work illegally.” | |
Trump has a great comeback: “I’m the only one on this stage who’s hired people.” | |
Rubio keeps after Trump, accusing him of hiring workers from Poland. He tells the audience to Google it. | |
“I’ve hired tens of thousands of people,” Trump says. | |
“Many from other countries,” Rubio says. | |
Sizzling! | |
1.50am GMT | |
01:50 | |
Cruz gets the Q. He says “the people who get forgotten in this debate” are the millions of “legal” immigrants who are losing their jobs – because, he implies, of undocumented workers. | |
Cruz says let’s fight for legal immigrants instead of ones “who break the law.” He says he’s led the fight against granting citizenship to undocumented migrants. | |
Then Trump brags about Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona endorsing him. There’s some applause. Some Trump fans in this crowd. | |
1.48am GMT | |
01:48 | |
First Q is about immigration. For Trump. You want to remove 11m undocumented migrants from the USA. But in your words “the good ones” can come back in. Cruz wouldn’t allow that and calls your plan “amnesty.” Is it? | |
“He was in charge of amnesty, he was the leader, and you can ask Marco,” too, Trump says. Trump says the only reason it’s even an issue is because he brought it up. “We either have a country or we don’t have a country.” | |
1.46am GMT | |
01:46 | |
Introductury statements | |
Ben Carson: America is “heading off the abyss of destruction.” A call for civility: “Marco, Donald, Ted, John: We will not solve any of these problems by trying to destroy each other... It’s not about us.” | |
John Kasich: My grandfather was a coal miner and my grandmother was an immigrant. For viewers: You can do whatever you want to do in your life. America is an amazing country. Shoot for the stars. America’s great and you can do it. | |
Marco Rubio: We have to decide the identity of America in the 21st century. Ronald Reagan. Conservatism. Hopes and dreams. Are we still that kind of party or one who “preys on people’s anger and fears?” Applause. | |
Ted Cruz: Welcome to Texas. [Applause.] I grew up here. I graduated from high school here. I am a senator from here. Democrats tell me I didn’t vote for you, but you’re doing what you said you would do. As president I will do that. | |
Donald Trump: My whole thing is Make America Great Again. We don’t win anymore. Isis, Obamacare, our Swiss cheese borders. We’re gonna start winning again. It’s gonna be a big difference. | |
1.40am GMT | |
01:40 | |
Our Ben Jacobs is in the room. And we’re going to fact check this after the commercial break: | |
Ben Carson is wearing a weirdly striped tie, not a solid color | |
1.38am GMT | |
01:38 | |
There they are. One of these men will be the Republican presidential nominee, unless something really unpredictable happens. | |
Here comes Deana Carter to sing the national anthem. And here comes the high note. O’er the land of the fuh-reee – cleanly hit, no showing off with the extra octave. And the home of the brave. Applause. Nicely done. The crowd chants USA! USA! | |
Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal sighting. | |
And a quick commercial break. | |
1.34am GMT | |
01:34 | |
Suprise guests at the debate – Wolf Blitzer, the moderator, introduces former president George HW Bush and Barbara Bush. | |
Notably not in the hall: one Jeb Bush. | |
The candidates are being introduced. | |
1.33am GMT | |
01:33 | |
CNN is running its hype reel ahead of the action onstage in Houston. What’s on your mind in the comments? | |
Horrendous as it sounds, it appears Trump is poised to win the Republican ticket. There are enough disenfranchised, angry and fed up Americans for whom the "Great American Dream" of hope and opportunity has become a nightmare of despair and joblessness. They have seen the corrupt bankers and establishment prosper while their standards of living have plummeted. They want revenge and believe rightly or wrongly that Trump will give them what they are looking for. | |
Looks like this "minutes away" thing is going to be another 45 minute delay. They must be having a pre-argument back stage. You know, a warm up. | |
Bunch of idiots. I never thought i'd miss a Bush! | |
1.30am GMT | |
01:30 | |
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01:30 | |
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And then there were five… | |
Here we go – the 10th Republican debate of the 2016 race for the White House is about to begin. You’ve been told and told what to look for: will Florida senator Marco Rubio or Texas senator Ted Cruz (or Ohio governor John Kasich??) mount an attack on accomplished politician Donald Trump that could somehow alter or interrupt the nominee-in-waiting’s authoritative lead in polling in the 11 states to host Republican voting on Super Tuesday this … Tuesday? | |
What would such an attack look like? Do debates matter that much? Can anything be said – after nine previous debates, countless individual rallies, town halls or whatever, enough campaign commercials to sink Noah and all Trump’s tweeting – can anything be said onstage in Houston tonight that would change the mind of the average Trump supporter sitting in Georgia or Texas or Virginia? | |
From where we sit, it will be dramatically interesting to watch them try. Thanks for joining our coverage and pitch in in the comments with who you think’s up, who’s down and who’s next out. | |