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By Finlo Rohrer BBC News Magazine The Victorian Society is celebrating 50 years of trying to save the UK's 19th Century buildings. We love Victorian architecture now, but once their public buildings were being listed for demolition, their terraced houses were being gutted. What changed?By Finlo Rohrer BBC News Magazine The Victorian Society is celebrating 50 years of trying to save the UK's 19th Century buildings. We love Victorian architecture now, but once their public buildings were being listed for demolition, their terraced houses were being gutted. What changed?
For many people today, the dream home is "period". And for many of the many, that "period" is Victorian.For many people today, the dream home is "period". And for many of the many, that "period" is Victorian.
Victorian terraces with their cornicing and patterned brickwork and bay windows are home to vast numbers of Britons.Victorian terraces with their cornicing and patterned brickwork and bay windows are home to vast numbers of Britons.
10 THAT WERE SAVED Tyntesfield House, SomersetForeign Office, LondonShadwell Park, NorfolkLlanfyllin Workhouse, OswestryAlbert Dock, LiverpoolSt Pancras station, LondonAlbert Memorial, LondonTemperance Billiards Hall, LondonUndershaw house, SurreyKentish Town Baths, London In pictures: 10 that were savedIn pictures: Five still in danger10 THAT WERE SAVED Tyntesfield House, SomersetForeign Office, LondonShadwell Park, NorfolkLlanfyllin Workhouse, OswestryAlbert Dock, LiverpoolSt Pancras station, LondonAlbert Memorial, LondonTemperance Billiards Hall, LondonUndershaw house, SurreyKentish Town Baths, London In pictures: 10 that were savedIn pictures: Five still in danger
And away from the urban areas where these robust little houses dominate, many in the UK feel an emotional connection with the major public buildings of the Victorian age.And away from the urban areas where these robust little houses dominate, many in the UK feel an emotional connection with the major public buildings of the Victorian age.
But it was not ever thus. In 1958, the poet Sir John Betjeman and the architecture guru Nikolaus Pevsner set up the Victorian Society to save the nation's Victorian and Edwardian architecture from predation.But it was not ever thus. In 1958, the poet Sir John Betjeman and the architecture guru Nikolaus Pevsner set up the Victorian Society to save the nation's Victorian and Edwardian architecture from predation.
And predations there were plenty. The post-war years saw a crystallising of scepticism about Victorian buildings. The most zealous harbingers of modernism felt animosity towards buildings that were a contradiction of the white heat of technology.And predations there were plenty. The post-war years saw a crystallising of scepticism about Victorian buildings. The most zealous harbingers of modernism felt animosity towards buildings that were a contradiction of the white heat of technology.
"In the 1960s, 'Victorian' and 'monstrosity' were two words that seemed to be inextricably linked," says architect Robert Adam."In the 1960s, 'Victorian' and 'monstrosity' were two words that seemed to be inextricably linked," says architect Robert Adam.
Two battlesTwo battles
Victorian was fusty, excessive, old, impractical, self-indulgent, snobbish, aloof architecture, utterly opposed to the age of space travel.Victorian was fusty, excessive, old, impractical, self-indulgent, snobbish, aloof architecture, utterly opposed to the age of space travel.
But the Victorian Society fought two battles that helped to slowly turn the tide, both involving buildings designed by the great George Gilbert Scott. One was against the mooted demolition of London's opulent Gothic revival St Pancras hotel and station, recognised with a statue of Betjeman in the newly Eurostar-hosting and fully renovated buildings.But the Victorian Society fought two battles that helped to slowly turn the tide, both involving buildings designed by the great George Gilbert Scott. One was against the mooted demolition of London's opulent Gothic revival St Pancras hotel and station, recognised with a statue of Betjeman in the newly Eurostar-hosting and fully renovated buildings.
In the 1950s it was considered really hideous... Victorian fireplaces went in the skip Sarah BeenyProperty LadderIn the 1950s it was considered really hideous... Victorian fireplaces went in the skip Sarah BeenyProperty Ladder
The other was over the neoclassical Foreign Office. In 1963, the then minister of public works Geoffrey Rippon decided the department had outgrown its grandiose buildings and that they should be flattened.The other was over the neoclassical Foreign Office. In 1963, the then minister of public works Geoffrey Rippon decided the department had outgrown its grandiose buildings and that they should be flattened.
The Victorian Society's members were prominent among those howling with outrage over both plans. And after fierce debate, both buildings were Grade I-listed and saved.The Victorian Society's members were prominent among those howling with outrage over both plans. And after fierce debate, both buildings were Grade I-listed and saved.
By the 1980s the mood had changed to the point that Victorian houses were again in vogue. Much of the concrete public housing of the 1960s and 1970s had not stood even a short test of time. There was understandable appreciation for a category of house that looked like it could withstand all but the most determined wrecking ball.By the 1980s the mood had changed to the point that Victorian houses were again in vogue. Much of the concrete public housing of the 1960s and 1970s had not stood even a short test of time. There was understandable appreciation for a category of house that looked like it could withstand all but the most determined wrecking ball.
Unsympathetic custodiansUnsympathetic custodians
"They have a solidity which people enjoy," says architect and Victorian Society campaigner John Scott. "They have a character and a traditional sense which people like. They represent the... point the English terrace house was perfected. It was the absolute pinnacle of Britain at its most confident and technological.""They have a solidity which people enjoy," says architect and Victorian Society campaigner John Scott. "They have a character and a traditional sense which people like. They represent the... point the English terrace house was perfected. It was the absolute pinnacle of Britain at its most confident and technological."
As well as its rock solid build qualities, the Victorian terrace possesses an adaptability that is appreciated by the modern buyer. Renovation to modern tastes is not difficult.As well as its rock solid build qualities, the Victorian terrace possesses an adaptability that is appreciated by the modern buyer. Renovation to modern tastes is not difficult.
But many owners want at least a taste of former glories - features that have been obscured or obliterated by less sympathetic custodians in the 1950s and onwards.But many owners want at least a taste of former glories - features that have been obscured or obliterated by less sympathetic custodians in the 1950s and onwards.
VICTORIAN TERRACE FEATURES Bay windowsSlate roofsColoured glass in front doorCornicing (decorative plaster mouldings)Decorative patterned brickworkSash windowsVICTORIAN TERRACE FEATURES Bay windowsSlate roofsColoured glass in front doorCornicing (decorative plaster mouldings)Decorative patterned brickworkSash windows
"In the 1950s it was considered really hideous, [with people] hiding the detailing inside," says property developer and Property Ladder presenter Sarah Beeny."In the 1950s it was considered really hideous, [with people] hiding the detailing inside," says property developer and Property Ladder presenter Sarah Beeny.
"Victorian fireplaces went in the skip. In terms of detailing it did go out in a very big way. If you think of Barry Bucknell, the first DIY guru, his main theme was how to get rid of the Victorian detailing in your house. People bought hardboard in vast quantities.""Victorian fireplaces went in the skip. In terms of detailing it did go out in a very big way. If you think of Barry Bucknell, the first DIY guru, his main theme was how to get rid of the Victorian detailing in your house. People bought hardboard in vast quantities."
This hardboard went over fireplaces and banisters as the cheapest possible erasure of the past, often leaving them essentially intact for future generations to restore.This hardboard went over fireplaces and banisters as the cheapest possible erasure of the past, often leaving them essentially intact for future generations to restore.
"We are now discovering again that this is a very satisfactory building type," says Adam."We are now discovering again that this is a very satisfactory building type," says Adam.
"It is very straight-forward and easy to decorate. The terrace is very effective in terms of land use, the internal layout is very simple. Report after report produced by the government shows this is the most effective way of producing high-density housing.""It is very straight-forward and easy to decorate. The terrace is very effective in terms of land use, the internal layout is very simple. Report after report produced by the government shows this is the most effective way of producing high-density housing."
Embellishment maniaEmbellishment mania
The nation's terraced houses were built to cope with massive movements of population to urban areas. Yet again the UK is struggling to cope with burgeoning population and may look for inspiration from the terrace.The nation's terraced houses were built to cope with massive movements of population to urban areas. Yet again the UK is struggling to cope with burgeoning population and may look for inspiration from the terrace.
"The only bits of Victorian houses that people regularly change are the kitchen and the bathroom," Scott says. "Everything else still fits family life. And you can't say the same for virtually every other era of period of house.""The only bits of Victorian houses that people regularly change are the kitchen and the bathroom," Scott says. "Everything else still fits family life. And you can't say the same for virtually every other era of period of house."
There is certainly great fondness for the features of the originals as well as for an age of architecture where even the most functional of buildings were embellished, water towers with elaborate brick motifs and register offices with Greek columns.There is certainly great fondness for the features of the originals as well as for an age of architecture where even the most functional of buildings were embellished, water towers with elaborate brick motifs and register offices with Greek columns.
Sir John Betjeman was instrumental in saving St PancrasSir John Betjeman was instrumental in saving St Pancras
But not everybody is a part of the Victorian love-fest. Adam admits he is "reviled" by other architects for attempting to incorporate historical themes in his buildings.But not everybody is a part of the Victorian love-fest. Adam admits he is "reviled" by other architects for attempting to incorporate historical themes in his buildings.
And Beeny suggests some people can be too slavish in their aping of Victorian style.And Beeny suggests some people can be too slavish in their aping of Victorian style.
"It isn't a glory day of fabulous architecture," she says. "We didn't think that 50 years ago. We have to put it into perspective. Victoriana is very fashionable. If you've got a house of any period it's quite nice to keep the original detailing.""It isn't a glory day of fabulous architecture," she says. "We didn't think that 50 years ago. We have to put it into perspective. Victoriana is very fashionable. If you've got a house of any period it's quite nice to keep the original detailing."
And she sees an amusing irony in houses that were seen as rather temporary at the time being restored in a slavish fashion over a century and a bit later.And she sees an amusing irony in houses that were seen as rather temporary at the time being restored in a slavish fashion over a century and a bit later.
But for the campaigners at the Victorian Society and elsewhere it is just a relief to no longer be fighting over major public buildings. The fashion is to respect the Victorians' buildings.But for the campaigners at the Victorian Society and elsewhere it is just a relief to no longer be fighting over major public buildings. The fashion is to respect the Victorians' buildings.
Now the battle has moved on to less well-known structures, threatened with demolition for practical rather than ideological reasons.Now the battle has moved on to less well-known structures, threatened with demolition for practical rather than ideological reasons.
And the threat now is often as much an unsympathetic conversion as outright destruction, as architectural historian and long-standing society member Gavin Stamp notes.And the threat now is often as much an unsympathetic conversion as outright destruction, as architectural historian and long-standing society member Gavin Stamp notes.
Grand houses are split into flats, churches become antique shops and police stations transform into restaurants. But such a change of purpose seems much more welcome than demolition.Grand houses are split into flats, churches become antique shops and police stations transform into restaurants. But such a change of purpose seems much more welcome than demolition.
And as Stamp insists: "The really good Victorian banks make wonderful bars."And as Stamp insists: "The really good Victorian banks make wonderful bars."

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There is greater appreciation for the Victorians because we realise that the architects and builders of today are simply incapable of matching their brio and excellence. For all their self-confidence the Victorians knew that they had something to learn from what went before. They studied and developed the styles for the industrial age and gave our cities grand and loveable public buildings, rich in craftsmanship and meaning. The qualities of a Pugin, or Barry or Scott and their buildings will be recognised long after our modish ennobled architects have flashed in the pan. Richard, London
Coming to the UK from the southern hemisphere where houses are supposed to be poorly insulated (and made of matchsticks BTW), it's a real mystery as to why the English are obsessed with crooked, cold, leaky, damp, pokey, grimey, poorly laid out, jammed together houses... It's as though the UK can't let go of old tat just because it's old, because it's "Victorian", "Edwardian" or can in some other way be linked to a long dead royal personage. Guys, why not keep a few around for old times sake and mow the rest down to give the people who are alive *today* the opportunity to have a better quality of life as a result of living in homes that are actually pleasant to live in.Peter, Hever, UK
I love my Victorina house. The high ceilings, beautiful fireplaces, cornices, tile work and original doors all add to the atmosphere of living in such a wonderful building. I can't understand how anyone could hate a Victoria house. Emma, Egham
Our Victorian terrace house has been completely "Bucknelled". We've removed an astonishing amount of hardboard and there are barely any original features left. No slate roof, coloured glass, cornicing or sash windows. I can't understand why people love period houses. Once all the charming features have been removed, you're left with a chilly, dark and poorly planned house. Give me 60s architecture every time!Francois, Kent, UK
I live in a converted Victorian mansion. If it hadn't been made into flats in the 1980s, it may have been demolished to may way for a characterless eyesore. The sash windows can be drafty, but the high ceilings, beautiful brickwork and cornicing make up for it. Jane, London
I do not understand why the many condemned terraces in the north are not being refurbished instead - I believe the Tonight programme arranged for one house to be revamped at a very small fraction of the price it would cost to demolish and replace with something newer.Mark, Bexhill-on-Sea
A quick look around any city centre, but in particular the City of London, shows our post war buildings being culled at an alarming rate. Whilst I agree that to us now many of them look dated we are in danger of creating an architectural void - you'll find many examples of Norman and medieval buildings but nothing between 1950 and 1980.Derek Elmore, Stevenage, UK
I lived in a Victorian house for about three months last year. It was cold, damp, noisy, and you could hear every footstep from every other flat nearby. The windows did not close and the single glazing spiralled our heating costs. In December we decided to move out and took a former council flat in a big block. True, the front of our house has no coloured glass doors or pretty brick work. But our flat is warm, quiet, spacious, clean and much cheaper than the old one. And we have a large balcony, which is nicer than the towel-sized dark back garden of the old place. I don't see anything admirable in those grotty Victorian terraced houses. Inga, London
It is maybe a sad indictment of post war designers and council building control that there is a more solid feel and build quality to these old buildings. They more than likely will stand another 100 years and still be around when present day flimsy built houses are being flattened. Just a pity that wood preservation and insulation were not high in the Victorian priorities. David C Cooper, Aberdeen
I couldn't live in a modern house, they are way too clinical, like a hospital or doctor's surgery. I much prefer the comfort expressed in period detailing, it's what turns a square box into a home, rather than leaving it as a square box. I prefer Victorian, for their love of decoration, but would be equally content with Edwardian, Georgian, Deco, or even older if it still existed. Given it's what we all seem to want, why don't our modern house builders give it to us, instead of building cheap little boxes with paper-thin walls and no character? After all, it's not like they're chasing architectural credibility.Rob, London, UK
The problem with our addition to 'period' houses is the environmental impact. Our historic housing stock results in inefficient heating, high emissions, and a poor overall sustainability record. By all means keep the unique and distinctive historic buildings; but preserving millions of Victorian terraces into future decades will increasingly make no sense.Alastair Stevens, Gloucester, UK
I actually think that Victorian Architecture is starting to go out of fashion and good 'Brutalist' stuff from the 60s is coming back in. I'd much rather live in the Barbican than a Victorian conversion. A lot of the internal beauty of Victorian buildings is being ripped out in the vandalism that DIY property developers call conversions when they turn one Victorian flat into 3 or more flats. Lucio Buffone, London
Compared to the houses they are building today Victorian houses are wonderful. Today's buildings might be energy efficient - but most will be lucky if they're still standing in 50 years time. Victorian houses also have character, high ceilings and features...today's houses are a combination of featureless rooms, with low ceilings and a noticeable absence of any features or character. JB, UK
In the early 60s, my parents in law stripped out the fireplaces from their terraced house in Swindon. But my husband protested and was allowed to keep his. We sold the house some six years ago to a developer, and when we peeped through the window before it was sold again, we saw that the saved fireplace now took pride of place in the sitting room!Nicola Turton, Old Basing, England
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