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| Tony Abbott under pressure to take more Syrian refugees, and China free trade motion – politics live | |
| (35 minutes later) | |
| 5.07am BST05:07 | |
| Question time | |
| Labor opens with refugees and Syria. Will the government join with the opposition and let 10,000 asylum seekers into the country? | |
| Tony Abbott: | |
| As I indicated the House yesterday, we will do more. Australia will do more. We have already done a lot. | |
| Abbott notes that people who are in camps, particularly persecuted minorities, and women and children, need support to ensure they have the prospect of a better life. | |
| He says he has been given a briefing by the immigration minister, Peter Dutton. | |
| Overnight he met the UN Commissioner for Refugees. He’s now in Geneva. He is meeting with the International Organisation for Migration. He is meeting with the international committee of the Red Cross as well as other senior UN officials. | |
| The government will consider these discussions. | |
| This is a complex and difficult situation. We owe it to the human beings involved to make good and considered, as well as compassionate decisions for their future. We do need to be prudent, we do need to plan. | |
| We shouldn’t delay but nevertheless we do need to be careful and I expect that within 24 hours, the government will have much more to say on this matter. | |
| 4.58am BST04:58 | |
| Shocker. No lunchtime summary, and question time looms. We will stand still and take stock of the political day’s many moving parts directly after the hour of glower. Pinkie promise. | |
| 4.56am BST04:56 | |
| Shalailah Medhora | |
| The chair of the treaties committee, Liberal MP Wyatt Roy, has just tabled the committee’s report into a proposed deal for Australia to sell uranium to India. The committee gave the deal the green light, but only if India satisfied a number of caveats aimed at preventing Australian uranium from ending up in nuclear weapons, including the full separation of civil and military nuclear facilities, and the creation of a new, fully independent regulatory body. India is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, and is estimated to have between 90 and 110 nuclear warheads. Its neighbours China and Pakistan are also armed with nuclear capabilities. | |
| 4.42am BST04:42 | |
| Refugees and effects tests | |
| The trade debate has wrapped now. | |
| Very quickly, today’s Coalition joint party room saw debates about refugees and about competition policy. | |
| My colleague Lenore Taylor tells me today’s briefing pointed to a shift in sentiment, and desire on the part of the community that the government do more to help Syrians. A number of government MPs emphasised the need to respond with generosity. One MP reported that the generous mood was not just the ABC and organisations of the left – this was a heartland issue. | |
| The prime minister told colleagues the government would be consistent with its values and attentive to Australia’s interests. | |
| There was also a boilover about competition policy. Six or seven MPs favoured the effects test being championed by the serially enthusiastic small business minister Bruce Billson. | |
| (An effects test in competition law relates to the misuse of market power by big business. It’s a hot potato with business, in that it divides the big folks from the small fry. The government recently hit pause on the Billson effort to achieve an effects test.) | |
| For his part, the prime minister told colleagues one should not be too theological on section 46 of the competition law. (That’s where an effects test lives.) | |
| 4.29am BST04:29 | 4.29am BST04:29 |
| Of course there’s a whole separate argument to make on the obligation of reforming governments to prosecute the cause of free trade in the public domain. I think good governments are absolutely obliged to make the intellectual case for trade liberalisation given the economic benefits that flow. In fact one of the big problems right now is the opponents of free trade are winning the battle of ideas in this sphere – and winning big time. | Of course there’s a whole separate argument to make on the obligation of reforming governments to prosecute the cause of free trade in the public domain. I think good governments are absolutely obliged to make the intellectual case for trade liberalisation given the economic benefits that flow. In fact one of the big problems right now is the opponents of free trade are winning the battle of ideas in this sphere – and winning big time. |
| But that’s a separate issue from whether or not you waste time with a parliamentary motion which appears to be more about political framing than substance. And if you choose to go down the stunt path (a time honoured and often worthy path in parliamentary politics), then at least make sure you can carry it off. | But that’s a separate issue from whether or not you waste time with a parliamentary motion which appears to be more about political framing than substance. And if you choose to go down the stunt path (a time honoured and often worthy path in parliamentary politics), then at least make sure you can carry it off. |
| 4.23am BST04:23 | 4.23am BST04:23 |
| For the record, this is the wording of the Labor amendment, which will shortly be defeated. | For the record, this is the wording of the Labor amendment, which will shortly be defeated. |
| I move: | I move: |
| That paragraph 3 be deleted and that the following be inserted: | That paragraph 3 be deleted and that the following be inserted: |
| 3. Support the China-Australia FTA and call on the Government to work with the parliament to legislate safeguards which: | 3. Support the China-Australia FTA and call on the Government to work with the parliament to legislate safeguards which: |
| a) Maximise job opportunities for Australian workers; | a) Maximise job opportunities for Australian workers; |
| b) Protect overseas workers from exploitation and maintain Australian wages and conditions; and | b) Protect overseas workers from exploitation and maintain Australian wages and conditions; and |
| c) Promote safety on Australian work sites by ensuring the skills and qualifications of temporary trades workers are of the highest standard. | c) Promote safety on Australian work sites by ensuring the skills and qualifications of temporary trades workers are of the highest standard. |
| 4.22am BST04:22 | 4.22am BST04:22 |
| PM Tony Abbott leaves the chamber during debate on the China-Australia FTA @murpharoo @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/uKG3cENzda | PM Tony Abbott leaves the chamber during debate on the China-Australia FTA @murpharoo @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/uKG3cENzda |
| The prime minister didn’t stay for the conclusion of the debate. Why would you? Doubtless better causes to serve on a frantic Tuesday. | The prime minister didn’t stay for the conclusion of the debate. Why would you? Doubtless better causes to serve on a frantic Tuesday. |
| One interesting inflection point late in the contributions. Shorten did not mention the ISDS clause in his contribution on the motion. The deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek did, however. She was concerned about the impact of the ISDS clause on health policy. | One interesting inflection point late in the contributions. Shorten did not mention the ISDS clause in his contribution on the motion. The deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek did, however. She was concerned about the impact of the ISDS clause on health policy. |
| The debate is winding up now. Votes are underway on the Labor amendment. | The debate is winding up now. Votes are underway on the Labor amendment. |
| 4.18am BST04:18 | 4.18am BST04:18 |
| A victory signifying .. ? | |
| This debate is still rolling. The trade minister Andrew Robb’s contribution was not entirely coherent. Chris Bowen is taking his turn now. | This debate is still rolling. The trade minister Andrew Robb’s contribution was not entirely coherent. Chris Bowen is taking his turn now. |
| A couple of very quick analytical thoughts. First and most salient point. Most people won’t watch more than 30 seconds of this so it doesn’t matter a jot. | A couple of very quick analytical thoughts. First and most salient point. Most people won’t watch more than 30 seconds of this so it doesn’t matter a jot. |
| But if they were watching, I think a reasonable conclusion from all this is mild debacle for the government. Elements of mild parliamentary tactics debacle: Labor cut across the opening of the motion, ensuring that the prime minister (a busy and important person) had to wait in the parliament for his moment for 30 minutes like the first speaker for the negative from the year-nine debating squad. | |
| Abbott’s contribution was fine as it went – there are good, solid policy arguments to be made in favour of trade liberalisation generally and the China FTA specifically – but he was obviously wrong-footed by Shorten not appearing in the chamber until late in the piece. | |
| Shorten (when he arrived and spoke) actually managed to keep his detail about what Labor wants on the looming FTA enabling legislation comprehensible (a practice which he very often fluffs). Shorten was correct to note that this whole show today is basically a stunt. What was the prime minister doing on a busy sitting day moving a motion on a deal when the enabling legislation isn’t yet before the parliament? | |
| It is kind of odd, and not entirely prime ministerial. Abbott will get the vote he wants because the government controls the chamber, but what does it mean at the end of the day? | |
| Two fifths of bugger all. | |
| Updated at 5.14am BST | |
| 4.04am BST04:04 | 4.04am BST04:04 |
| A tiny bit of superb from Mike Bowers. Manager of government business Christopher Pyne and Anthony Albanese have a little moment while passing during a quiet moment in the combat. | A tiny bit of superb from Mike Bowers. Manager of government business Christopher Pyne and Anthony Albanese have a little moment while passing during a quiet moment in the combat. |
| 4.01am BST04:01 | 4.01am BST04:01 |
| 3.58am BST03:58 | 3.58am BST03:58 |
| Shorten is laying out Labor’s conditions. Mandatory labour market testing for projects over $150m; Australian safety standards; Australian wages. | Shorten is laying out Labor’s conditions. Mandatory labour market testing for projects over $150m; Australian safety standards; Australian wages. |
| The Labor leader says Tony Abbott doesn’t need to go back to Beijing to get this done. Labor is prepared to come round to his office to sort out the differences. This happened in 2004, when John Howard agreed to change the USFTA legislation to take account of Labor’s concerns. | The Labor leader says Tony Abbott doesn’t need to go back to Beijing to get this done. Labor is prepared to come round to his office to sort out the differences. This happened in 2004, when John Howard agreed to change the USFTA legislation to take account of Labor’s concerns. |
| Shorten to Abbott, across the dispatch box: | Shorten to Abbott, across the dispatch box: |
| You are a good man at being stubborn, but you confuse it with strength. Your resolution unamended changes nothing, helps no-one, goes nowhere. | You are a good man at being stubborn, but you confuse it with strength. Your resolution unamended changes nothing, helps no-one, goes nowhere. |
| Grow up Mr Abbott and do your day job. | Grow up Mr Abbott and do your day job. |
| 3.51am BST03:51 | 3.51am BST03:51 |
| Bill Shorten: | Bill Shorten: |
| We want new opportunities for our growing services sector and we want emerging industries like advanced manufacturing to get a boost, too. But the fundamental point remains, we need to get the package right, and for Labor this will always mean doing the right thing byAustralian workers. | We want new opportunities for our growing services sector and we want emerging industries like advanced manufacturing to get a boost, too. But the fundamental point remains, we need to get the package right, and for Labor this will always mean doing the right thing byAustralian workers. |
| There is nothing for Australia to gain by entering a race to the bottom with our neighbours on wages and conditions. There will always be other countries Mr prime minister that have more people willing to work longer for less money. | There is nothing for Australia to gain by entering a race to the bottom with our neighbours on wages and conditions. There will always be other countries Mr prime minister that have more people willing to work longer for less money. |
| Our goal should be to play on Australia’s strong ground. | Our goal should be to play on Australia’s strong ground. |
| 3.47am BST03:47 | 3.47am BST03:47 |
| The Labor leader is now attempting to amend the motion to ensure the agreement safeguards Australian jobs, safety and conditions. The government should support this amendment, Shorten says, otherwise this will be another stunt from the Abbott stunt factory – a wedge, a time wasting exercise – the ultimate hollow resolution of the ultimate hollow man. | The Labor leader is now attempting to amend the motion to ensure the agreement safeguards Australian jobs, safety and conditions. The government should support this amendment, Shorten says, otherwise this will be another stunt from the Abbott stunt factory – a wedge, a time wasting exercise – the ultimate hollow resolution of the ultimate hollow man. |
| 3.44am BST03:44 | 3.44am BST03:44 |
| Abbott goes to the contentious issue of labour mobility. | Abbott goes to the contentious issue of labour mobility. |
| There’s no changes to the protections for workers. No changes to the protections built into our immigration laws, none whatsoever. So there is absolutely nothing possible under this agreement with China that is not already possible. Let me repeat that Mr Speaker, there is absolutely nothing possible under this agreement with China that is not already possible, that is not already possible, including under free trade agreements negotiated by members opposite when they were in government. There is no possibility of placing foreigners in Australian jobs without labour market testing. | There’s no changes to the protections for workers. No changes to the protections built into our immigration laws, none whatsoever. So there is absolutely nothing possible under this agreement with China that is not already possible. Let me repeat that Mr Speaker, there is absolutely nothing possible under this agreement with China that is not already possible, that is not already possible, including under free trade agreements negotiated by members opposite when they were in government. There is no possibility of placing foreigners in Australian jobs without labour market testing. |
| Objections to the deal are a xenophobic campaign of lies. | Objections to the deal are a xenophobic campaign of lies. |
| Why is it that members opposite seem to be channelling the ghosts of the federation parliament, echoing the kind of sentiments that were heard at the time of the White Australia policy. | Why is it that members opposite seem to be channelling the ghosts of the federation parliament, echoing the kind of sentiments that were heard at the time of the White Australia policy. |
| Shorten has entered the chamber. | Shorten has entered the chamber. |
| Updated at 4.39am BST | Updated at 4.39am BST |
| 3.38am BST03:38 | 3.38am BST03:38 |
| Tony Abbott says it would be unconscionable not to bring this deal through to its proper conclusion. | Tony Abbott says it would be unconscionable not to bring this deal through to its proper conclusion. |
| It is a done deal. It cannot be renegotiated. It is a deal we take or leave. | It is a done deal. It cannot be renegotiated. It is a deal we take or leave. |
| The prime minister reminds Bill Shorten what he said about the agreement during a visit to Australia by the Chinese leadership. Positive things. What’s changed? Well the CFMEU doesn’t like it, Abbott says. | The prime minister reminds Bill Shorten what he said about the agreement during a visit to Australia by the Chinese leadership. Positive things. What’s changed? Well the CFMEU doesn’t like it, Abbott says. |
| And where is Shorten anyway? (The Labor leader is not in the chamber.) | And where is Shorten anyway? (The Labor leader is not in the chamber.) |
| 3.34am BST03:34 | 3.34am BST03:34 |
| Thirty minutes after the government wanted, the China free trade motion is proceeding now. The prime minister wants to remind us all just how important the China FTA is for the country. Abbott says this is the only free trade agreement undertaken by Beijing with a G20 country. This agreement gives us unparalleled access to the biggest market in Asia, and what will soon be the biggest market in the world, the prime minister says. | Thirty minutes after the government wanted, the China free trade motion is proceeding now. The prime minister wants to remind us all just how important the China FTA is for the country. Abbott says this is the only free trade agreement undertaken by Beijing with a G20 country. This agreement gives us unparalleled access to the biggest market in Asia, and what will soon be the biggest market in the world, the prime minister says. |
| 3.25am BST03:25 | 3.25am BST03:25 |
| Still working through the divisions to shut Labor up here. The shadow treasurer Chris Bowen just loomed at the dispatch box. Manager of government business Christopher Pyne wafted a dismissive hand in his direction. | Still working through the divisions to shut Labor up here. The shadow treasurer Chris Bowen just loomed at the dispatch box. Manager of government business Christopher Pyne wafted a dismissive hand in his direction. |
| Bye bye. Bye bye. Go write a book. | Bye bye. Bye bye. Go write a book. |
| (Pyne has also written a book. Perhaps they could write one together. I think they share a publisher.) | (Pyne has also written a book. Perhaps they could write one together. I think they share a publisher.) |
| 3.22am BST03:22 | 3.22am BST03:22 |
| 3.21am BST03:21 | 3.21am BST03:21 |
| Just very quickly in this division – the Labor caucus did have a brief bunfight over the citizenship legislation, which I flagged in a tweet I shared with you earlier this morning from Sky News reporter Laura Jayes. But the majority view in the opposition was pass the proposal if the government accepts the amendments proposed by the intelligence committee. I wondered if the bombing of Syria might come up in today’s caucus meeting, but apparently it did not. | Just very quickly in this division – the Labor caucus did have a brief bunfight over the citizenship legislation, which I flagged in a tweet I shared with you earlier this morning from Sky News reporter Laura Jayes. But the majority view in the opposition was pass the proposal if the government accepts the amendments proposed by the intelligence committee. I wondered if the bombing of Syria might come up in today’s caucus meeting, but apparently it did not. |
| Updated at 4.38am BST | Updated at 4.38am BST |
| 3.15am BST03:15 | 3.15am BST03:15 |
| The government has moved to gag Albanese. Pyne is suggesting the parliament may need to look at the standing orders to prevent motions reaching the length of War and Peace. | The government has moved to gag Albanese. Pyne is suggesting the parliament may need to look at the standing orders to prevent motions reaching the length of War and Peace. |
| Updated at 3.15am BST | Updated at 3.15am BST |
| 3.09am BST03:09 | 3.09am BST03:09 |
| Motion on the China free trade deal | Motion on the China free trade deal |
| The government has attempted to bring on its telegraphed free trade motion in the house. Anthony Albanese has pinged to his feet. He’s trying to knock out the China motion to have the house urgently consider the matter of Nationals leader Warren Truss providing a misleading account of advice given to a cruise operator about using foreign crews to lower operating costs. I flagged this issue with you first up today. | The government has attempted to bring on its telegraphed free trade motion in the house. Anthony Albanese has pinged to his feet. He’s trying to knock out the China motion to have the house urgently consider the matter of Nationals leader Warren Truss providing a misleading account of advice given to a cruise operator about using foreign crews to lower operating costs. I flagged this issue with you first up today. |
| House Speaker Tony Smith isn’t going to play ball. Let’s be orderly chaps, shall we? | House Speaker Tony Smith isn’t going to play ball. Let’s be orderly chaps, shall we? |
| Anthony Albanese: | Anthony Albanese: |
| With respect Mr Speaker, we supported the suspension of standing orders. They thought it was about their motion. | With respect Mr Speaker, we supported the suspension of standing orders. They thought it was about their motion. |
| We think it’s about our motion. | We think it’s about our motion. |
| A major stunt-off in play now. | A major stunt-off in play now. |
| Manager of government business Christopher Pyne: | Manager of government business Christopher Pyne: |
| This is an almost two page motion! | This is an almost two page motion! |
| Updated at 4.37am BST | Updated at 4.37am BST |
| 3.01am BST03:01 | 3.01am BST03:01 |
| The most persecuted group in the world. | The most persecuted group in the world. |
| Labor’s immigration spokesman, Richard Marles, is asked about the government’s preference for Christian minorities in the intake from Syria. Does he agree? | Labor’s immigration spokesman, Richard Marles, is asked about the government’s preference for Christian minorities in the intake from Syria. Does he agree? |
| Richard Marles: | Richard Marles: |
| We believe the best way forward is working with the UNHCR. | We believe the best way forward is working with the UNHCR. |
| 2.57am BST02:57 | 2.57am BST02:57 |
| Reading between the lines, the government is worried about the Senate numbers on the Heydon royal commission motion this afternoon. Abetz opened by blasting the motion to dismiss Heydon. It was “disgraceful”, he said. | Reading between the lines, the government is worried about the Senate numbers on the Heydon royal commission motion this afternoon. Abetz opened by blasting the motion to dismiss Heydon. It was “disgraceful”, he said. |
| Then this: | Then this: |
| The sign of a mature political party, the sign of a mature politician, is 1) to recognise when you are doing something wrong, and 2) even if by chance you do get the numbers there are occasions when you should not use your numbers. | The sign of a mature political party, the sign of a mature politician, is 1) to recognise when you are doing something wrong, and 2) even if by chance you do get the numbers there are occasions when you should not use your numbers. |
| I thought Labor wouldn’t get the numbers for this. Obviously, Abetz is concerned the opposition might. | I thought Labor wouldn’t get the numbers for this. Obviously, Abetz is concerned the opposition might. |
| Abetz was asked about the Australian’s story about contact between the commission and Kathy Jackson. | Abetz was asked about the Australian’s story about contact between the commission and Kathy Jackson. |
| As I understand it, Kathy Jackson complained that she felt she had been ambushed by the royal commission and had been treated very harshly. | As I understand it, Kathy Jackson complained that she felt she had been ambushed by the royal commission and had been treated very harshly. |
| Updated at 3.09am BST | Updated at 3.09am BST |
| 2.50am BST02:50 | 2.50am BST02:50 |
| Big calls, by Eric Abetz | Big calls, by Eric Abetz |
| Abetz addressed other issues. He told reporters he wants Christians prioritised in the refugee intake from Syria because Christians are the most persecuted group in the world. | Abetz addressed other issues. He told reporters he wants Christians prioritised in the refugee intake from Syria because Christians are the most persecuted group in the world. |
| He said the refugee intake should be decided on the basis of need. | He said the refugee intake should be decided on the basis of need. |
| But. | But. |
| I think the Australian people would see a need for that (prioritising Christians) to be a focus. In recent times a number of world leaders have indicated that the Christian community is the most persecuted religion in the world. I think the plight of Christians in the Middle East and elsewhere has been considerable. | I think the Australian people would see a need for that (prioritising Christians) to be a focus. In recent times a number of world leaders have indicated that the Christian community is the most persecuted religion in the world. I think the plight of Christians in the Middle East and elsewhere has been considerable. |
| Q: Vast numbers of Muslims have been killed as well so shouldn’t it be non-discriminatory? | Q: Vast numbers of Muslims have been killed as well so shouldn’t it be non-discriminatory? |
| That is why I said on the basis of need. | That is why I said on the basis of need. |
| But given the plight of Christians I think a very strong case can be made that Christians should be prioritised. | But given the plight of Christians I think a very strong case can be made that Christians should be prioritised. |
| 2.28am BST02:28 | 2.28am BST02:28 |
| Here comes the post-meeting dam break. First cab off the rank is the manager of government business, Eric Abetz, who is currently addressing reporters in the courtyard about an employment issue – the government’s “transition to work” service for young job seekers. Abetz tells reporters the Coalition has always been about jobs. At the moment they are on about an exposure draft, by the sounds of things. | Here comes the post-meeting dam break. First cab off the rank is the manager of government business, Eric Abetz, who is currently addressing reporters in the courtyard about an employment issue – the government’s “transition to work” service for young job seekers. Abetz tells reporters the Coalition has always been about jobs. At the moment they are on about an exposure draft, by the sounds of things. |
| Updated at 3.07am BST | Updated at 3.07am BST |
| 2.16am BST02:16 | 2.16am BST02:16 |
| Both of these developments could have been predicted. (This is about the government’s citizenship revocation proposal, which a number of legal experts think may be unconstitutional.) | Both of these developments could have been predicted. (This is about the government’s citizenship revocation proposal, which a number of legal experts think may be unconstitutional.) |
| Three Labor backbenchers raise concerns about citizenship laws in caucus. Overwhelming support within party with amendments though #caucus | Three Labor backbenchers raise concerns about citizenship laws in caucus. Overwhelming support within party with amendments though #caucus |
| Parliament’s joint committee on intelligence and security struggled to produce a report that both the government and the ALP could live with. That finally happened last week. We expect debate on this legislation some time this sitting fortnight. I don’t think the government has yet responded formally to the intelligence committee’s recommendations. | Parliament’s joint committee on intelligence and security struggled to produce a report that both the government and the ALP could live with. That finally happened last week. We expect debate on this legislation some time this sitting fortnight. I don’t think the government has yet responded formally to the intelligence committee’s recommendations. |
| Updated at 2.37am BST | Updated at 2.37am BST |
| 2.11am BST02:11 | 2.11am BST02:11 |
| Also worth posting this from Julie Bishop so you get the full answer on Syria and the imminent announcement that Australia will extend military action there. | Also worth posting this from Julie Bishop so you get the full answer on Syria and the imminent announcement that Australia will extend military action there. |
| I’ve already given you some of this morning – Bishop’s observation that the mission in Syria will not involve bombing civilians. I note that particular observation hasn’t gone down well in the thread. I think some of you feel that might be a little misleading or naive. | I’ve already given you some of this morning – Bishop’s observation that the mission in Syria will not involve bombing civilians. I note that particular observation hasn’t gone down well in the thread. I think some of you feel that might be a little misleading or naive. |
| If you read right through you’ll see the mission has some lofty ambitions. | If you read right through you’ll see the mission has some lofty ambitions. |
| Q: On Syria of course we’re expecting an announcement on whether we are going to extend our mission there and start bombing Syria. Is that inevitable? | Q: On Syria of course we’re expecting an announcement on whether we are going to extend our mission there and start bombing Syria. Is that inevitable? |
| Julie Bishop: | Julie Bishop: |
| We believe that we need to end this conflict in Syria. That’s why so many people are leaving Syria. There’s a massive conflict – a civil war going on inside the country. | We believe that we need to end this conflict in Syria. That’s why so many people are leaving Syria. There’s a massive conflict – a civil war going on inside the country. |
| Q: But isn’t there an inconsistency there that we’re dropping bombs on them? | Q: But isn’t there an inconsistency there that we’re dropping bombs on them? |
| No, not at all. | No, not at all. |
| Q: And giving them refuge? | Q: And giving them refuge? |
| No, we’re not dropping bombs on civilians. We’re targeting the terrorist organisation, its military bases, its supply lines. And this is the organisation that is carrying out horrific attacks against civilian populations. And so if we are able to defeat the terrorist organisation, that stops the terrorist organisation attacking civilians. So we have to go to the root cause of the conflict. There is a political solution with the Assad regime, a military solution with the terrorist organisation. | No, we’re not dropping bombs on civilians. We’re targeting the terrorist organisation, its military bases, its supply lines. And this is the organisation that is carrying out horrific attacks against civilian populations. And so if we are able to defeat the terrorist organisation, that stops the terrorist organisation attacking civilians. So we have to go to the root cause of the conflict. There is a political solution with the Assad regime, a military solution with the terrorist organisation. |
| Q: So that is the mission, is it? It’s an attack on IS only? | Q: So that is the mission, is it? It’s an attack on IS only? |
| Absolutely. That is all we’ve been asked to do and that’s all we would consider. | Absolutely. That is all we’ve been asked to do and that’s all we would consider. |
| Q: Okay, what’s the exit strategy? When’s the mission over? | Q: Okay, what’s the exit strategy? When’s the mission over? |
| When the terrorist organisation is prevented from carrying out attacks on the civilian populations in Syria and Iraq. And I note that Great Britain took part in airstrikes last night. The Canadians are taking part. And Australia will give due consideration to the request because we are part of the air strikes over Iraq. I am informed that we are making progress, that we have dismantled a number of the terrorist strongholds in Iraq and will try and do that in succeeding efforts over the next few weeks. But also we’ve been asked to look at air strikes over Syria, targeting Isil or Daesh military bases from where they are launching attacks on Iraqi civilians. | When the terrorist organisation is prevented from carrying out attacks on the civilian populations in Syria and Iraq. And I note that Great Britain took part in airstrikes last night. The Canadians are taking part. And Australia will give due consideration to the request because we are part of the air strikes over Iraq. I am informed that we are making progress, that we have dismantled a number of the terrorist strongholds in Iraq and will try and do that in succeeding efforts over the next few weeks. But also we’ve been asked to look at air strikes over Syria, targeting Isil or Daesh military bases from where they are launching attacks on Iraqi civilians. |
| Updated at 2.37am BST | Updated at 2.37am BST |
| 2.01am BST02:01 | 2.01am BST02:01 |
| I didn’t get time to cover it in the morning rush but it’s worth putting on the record. Yesterday, former immigration minister Scott Morrison made the rather extraordinary observation that Australia had to be careful on the numbers from Syria because we had to prioritise the region. Morrison raised the Rohingya as a case in point – which would be fine if the prime minister hadn’t point-blank refused to countenance the resettlement of Rohingyas when there was a crisis point recently. | I didn’t get time to cover it in the morning rush but it’s worth putting on the record. Yesterday, former immigration minister Scott Morrison made the rather extraordinary observation that Australia had to be careful on the numbers from Syria because we had to prioritise the region. Morrison raised the Rohingya as a case in point – which would be fine if the prime minister hadn’t point-blank refused to countenance the resettlement of Rohingyas when there was a crisis point recently. |
| Nope, nope, nope. | Nope, nope, nope. |
| AM host Michael Brissenden asked the obvious question of foreign minister Julie Bishop this morning: | AM host Michael Brissenden asked the obvious question of foreign minister Julie Bishop this morning: |
| Q: Only a few months ago we saw a similar migration crisis unfolding in our own region, with Bangladeshi and Rohingya migrants all at sea – a terrible humanitarian crisis – and the answer at that point was nope, nope, nope. What’s the difference (with the Syrians)? | Q: Only a few months ago we saw a similar migration crisis unfolding in our own region, with Bangladeshi and Rohingya migrants all at sea – a terrible humanitarian crisis – and the answer at that point was nope, nope, nope. What’s the difference (with the Syrians)? |
| Julie Bishop: | Julie Bishop: |
| This is a humanitarian crisis of unprecedented scale. There are displaced people leaving countries all over the world all of the time. What we did was dismantle the people-smuggling trade so that the people coming to Australia were not the choice of the people smugglers. We took back control of our borders so that the Australian government makes the decision as to who we will resettle here. And that’s been a very important change in our approach to it. We now have the flexibility to take more people through our refugee humanitarian process. We have more capacity to take people in other visa categories. So the government must have control of the immigration system and not subcontract it out to people smugglers. | This is a humanitarian crisis of unprecedented scale. There are displaced people leaving countries all over the world all of the time. What we did was dismantle the people-smuggling trade so that the people coming to Australia were not the choice of the people smugglers. We took back control of our borders so that the Australian government makes the decision as to who we will resettle here. And that’s been a very important change in our approach to it. We now have the flexibility to take more people through our refugee humanitarian process. We have more capacity to take people in other visa categories. So the government must have control of the immigration system and not subcontract it out to people smugglers. |
| (Things have changed that much in only a few months? Not very convincing, is it?) | (Things have changed that much in only a few months? Not very convincing, is it?) |
| Updated at 2.34am BST | Updated at 2.34am BST |
| 1.53am BST01:53 | 1.53am BST01:53 |
| Another small helping of Cory Bernardi. | Another small helping of Cory Bernardi. |
| Q: Mr Albanese, just one more question on refugees. After a moment of bipartisanship in question time yesterday, or at least the attempt to have bipartisanship in this area, we saw some comments last night from Cory Bernardi in the Senate. He’s described the refugee crisis in Europe as becoming an opportunistic cycle. What do you think about that? | Q: Mr Albanese, just one more question on refugees. After a moment of bipartisanship in question time yesterday, or at least the attempt to have bipartisanship in this area, we saw some comments last night from Cory Bernardi in the Senate. He’s described the refugee crisis in Europe as becoming an opportunistic cycle. What do you think about that? |
| Anthony Albanese: | Anthony Albanese: |
| Cory Bernardi is an embarrassment to this parliament. Cory Bernardi should have a good look at himself and the implications of some of the things that he says. | Cory Bernardi is an embarrassment to this parliament. Cory Bernardi should have a good look at himself and the implications of some of the things that he says. |
| I don’t blame his party in this case. It’s pretty clear that he just goes off but I think probably the best response to Cory Bernardi is to treat him with the contempt that those comments deserve. | I don’t blame his party in this case. It’s pretty clear that he just goes off but I think probably the best response to Cory Bernardi is to treat him with the contempt that those comments deserve. |
| 1.40am BST01:40 | 1.40am BST01:40 |
| Labor is obviously picking up the report about Kathy Jackson and the trade union royal commission that I shared with you earlier on this morning. | Labor is obviously picking up the report about Kathy Jackson and the trade union royal commission that I shared with you earlier on this morning. |
| From the newswire service AAP: | From the newswire service AAP: |
| Federal Labor will press ahead with a Senate motion calling on the governor general to dismiss royal commissioner Dyson Heydon amid new claims a prominent trade union witness was briefed by inquiry lawyers. | Federal Labor will press ahead with a Senate motion calling on the governor general to dismiss royal commissioner Dyson Heydon amid new claims a prominent trade union witness was briefed by inquiry lawyers. |
| Kathy Jackson, long hailed as a whistleblower from the Health Services Union, was provided in advance with details of what she would be asked at the commission into trade union corruption, the Australian reported on Tuesday. | Kathy Jackson, long hailed as a whistleblower from the Health Services Union, was provided in advance with details of what she would be asked at the commission into trade union corruption, the Australian reported on Tuesday. |
| The Senate is expected to consider a Labor motion later on Tuesday that asks the governor general, Peter Cosgrove, to revoke Heydon’s commission on the grounds he has failed to uphold standards of impartiality. | The Senate is expected to consider a Labor motion later on Tuesday that asks the governor general, Peter Cosgrove, to revoke Heydon’s commission on the grounds he has failed to uphold standards of impartiality. |
| Senior Labor frontbencher Stephen Conroy said the report proved there was a “clear case of bias”. | Senior Labor frontbencher Stephen Conroy said the report proved there was a “clear case of bias”. |
| “Any fair-minded senator would have to say that Heydon should go, that (counsel-assisting) Stoljar should go, that the staff should go,” he told reporters in Canberra. | “Any fair-minded senator would have to say that Heydon should go, that (counsel-assisting) Stoljar should go, that the staff should go,” he told reporters in Canberra. |
| He called on the crossbench to examine the file note of July 25, 2014 between the commission’s legal team and Ms Jackson. The commission was “fatally compromised” by the document. | He called on the crossbench to examine the file note of July 25, 2014 between the commission’s legal team and Ms Jackson. The commission was “fatally compromised” by the document. |
| Updated at 2.05am BST | Updated at 2.05am BST |
| 1.23am BST01:23 | 1.23am BST01:23 |
| The lull in proceedings allows me to share this most excellent form guide for the Canning byelection prepared by Calla Wahlquist, my Perth-based colleague. You can read all you need to know about each of the political candidates who would like your support in a couple of weeks’ time (presuming of course you are reading Politics Live inside the boundaries of the Canning electorate). | The lull in proceedings allows me to share this most excellent form guide for the Canning byelection prepared by Calla Wahlquist, my Perth-based colleague. You can read all you need to know about each of the political candidates who would like your support in a couple of weeks’ time (presuming of course you are reading Politics Live inside the boundaries of the Canning electorate). |
| Just a sample: | Just a sample: |
| Twenty-two-year-old libertarian Connor Whittle has been keeping a low profile. The party’s website describes him as a “guitar-playing, globe-trotting draftsman” who aims to raise the party’s profile in WA – and, presumably, advocate for its policy positions, which include relaxing gun laws, ceasing all foreign aid except humanitarian relief and legalising cannabis. Whittle is not on Twitter, but his Facebook profile, which doesn’t seem to be set up for campaigning, describes him as an “enthusiastic amateur”. (It also features a profile picture which prompted Helen Dale, senior adviser to the Liberal Democratic senator David Leyonhjelm, to comment: “There are women and gays in Canning who will vote for you on the strength of your dimples. Truth.”) | Twenty-two-year-old libertarian Connor Whittle has been keeping a low profile. The party’s website describes him as a “guitar-playing, globe-trotting draftsman” who aims to raise the party’s profile in WA – and, presumably, advocate for its policy positions, which include relaxing gun laws, ceasing all foreign aid except humanitarian relief and legalising cannabis. Whittle is not on Twitter, but his Facebook profile, which doesn’t seem to be set up for campaigning, describes him as an “enthusiastic amateur”. (It also features a profile picture which prompted Helen Dale, senior adviser to the Liberal Democratic senator David Leyonhjelm, to comment: “There are women and gays in Canning who will vote for you on the strength of your dimples. Truth.”) |
| Read it here. | Read it here. |
| Updated at 2.03am BST | Updated at 2.03am BST |
| 1.13am BST01:13 | 1.13am BST01:13 |
| Did I miss this particular intervention from earlier on today. Is compassion an auction? | Did I miss this particular intervention from earlier on today. Is compassion an auction? |
| Govt backbencher Andrew Nikolic on call within the Coalition for Australia to take up to 50,000 refugees @abcnews pic.twitter.com/hWyJs0cg2C | Govt backbencher Andrew Nikolic on call within the Coalition for Australia to take up to 50,000 refugees @abcnews pic.twitter.com/hWyJs0cg2C |
| Poor old Andrew Nikolic will forever in my mind be the fellow who invoked a standing order as “94A Delta” during a moment of tension. He’s a former army man. I imagine old habits are hard to break. | Poor old Andrew Nikolic will forever in my mind be the fellow who invoked a standing order as “94A Delta” during a moment of tension. He’s a former army man. I imagine old habits are hard to break. |
| Updated at 2.02am BST | Updated at 2.02am BST |
| 12.59am BST00:59 | 12.59am BST00:59 |
| A blissful silence falls on the parliament this time every Tuesday when MPs are locked up in their various party room meetings. I have a recurring fantasy that I could do a yoga session during this time and then spring up, back to the desk, refreshed. It’s one of those thoughts that repeat because .. well .. it’s the lure of the impossible. In any case Tuesday morning is always calm before the storm. When they emerge, generally bedlam ensues. First-world problems. I know. | A blissful silence falls on the parliament this time every Tuesday when MPs are locked up in their various party room meetings. I have a recurring fantasy that I could do a yoga session during this time and then spring up, back to the desk, refreshed. It’s one of those thoughts that repeat because .. well .. it’s the lure of the impossible. In any case Tuesday morning is always calm before the storm. When they emerge, generally bedlam ensues. First-world problems. I know. |
| Updated at 2.02am BST | Updated at 2.02am BST |
| 12.49am BST00:49 | 12.49am BST00:49 |
| Is Milner the answer? | Is Milner the answer? |
| It’s been mooted for some weeks that the Labor leader Bill Shorten intended to appoint Cameron Milner – a former Queensland state party secretary – as his new chief of staff. The post has been vacant for some months. Shorten has told caucus this morning that Milner has the gig, according to Fairfax Media. | It’s been mooted for some weeks that the Labor leader Bill Shorten intended to appoint Cameron Milner – a former Queensland state party secretary – as his new chief of staff. The post has been vacant for some months. Shorten has told caucus this morning that Milner has the gig, according to Fairfax Media. |
| There is a deal of low-level grumbling about the Shorten office around the opposition. Complaints vary. A quick sample I’ve heard include too short-term in thinking; ineffective policy development processes; too many staff quartered in the leader’s office at the expense of staff deployed to the ministry and outer ministry. | There is a deal of low-level grumbling about the Shorten office around the opposition. Complaints vary. A quick sample I’ve heard include too short-term in thinking; ineffective policy development processes; too many staff quartered in the leader’s office at the expense of staff deployed to the ministry and outer ministry. |
| Milner has a big job to do. There will be a number of Labor people who hope he’s up to it. | Milner has a big job to do. There will be a number of Labor people who hope he’s up to it. |
| Updated at 2.01am BST | Updated at 2.01am BST |
| 12.39am BST00:39 | 12.39am BST00:39 |
| For the stats inclined. | For the stats inclined. |
| Refugees per 1,000 people Lebanon: 232 Jordan: 87 Turkey: 21 Canada: 5 Germany: 2.4 UK: 1.9 Australia: 1.4 US: 0.9 pic.twitter.com/pArEK0HZOA | Refugees per 1,000 people Lebanon: 232 Jordan: 87 Turkey: 21 Canada: 5 Germany: 2.4 UK: 1.9 Australia: 1.4 US: 0.9 pic.twitter.com/pArEK0HZOA |
| 12.37am BST00:37 | 12.37am BST00:37 |
| The China FTA motion is not the only parliamentary game in town. The independent MP Andrew Wilkie says he plans to move a motion on refugees during question time today. | The China FTA motion is not the only parliamentary game in town. The independent MP Andrew Wilkie says he plans to move a motion on refugees during question time today. |
| His number is 30,000. | His number is 30,000. |
| Here is the Wilkie motion: | Here is the Wilkie motion: |
| I move that this house: | I move that this house: |
| 1) expresses its deep concern that there are now more than 50 million endangered people displaced or on the move globally, including more than 4 m Syrians on account of the current conflict; | 1) expresses its deep concern that there are now more than 50 million endangered people displaced or on the move globally, including more than 4 m Syrians on account of the current conflict; |
| 2) calls on the government to act immediately to quickly resettle in Australia 30,000 affected Syrians, all in addition to the current humanitarian intake of 13,750; and | 2) calls on the government to act immediately to quickly resettle in Australia 30,000 affected Syrians, all in addition to the current humanitarian intake of 13,750; and |
| 3) further calls on the government to permanently double Australia’s humanitarian intake from its current figure of 13,750 to 28,000. | 3) further calls on the government to permanently double Australia’s humanitarian intake from its current figure of 13,750 to 28,000. |
| Updated at 2.00am BST | Updated at 2.00am BST |
| 12.25am BST00:25 | 12.25am BST00:25 |
| Some thoughts on Syria and refugees from the former Liberal premier of Victoria, Jeff Kennett. | Some thoughts on Syria and refugees from the former Liberal premier of Victoria, Jeff Kennett. |
| Yes to 50,000 more refugees from Syria properly processed from camps in agreed places overseas. NO NO to Aus bombing strikes in Syria | Yes to 50,000 more refugees from Syria properly processed from camps in agreed places overseas. NO NO to Aus bombing strikes in Syria |
| Labors call 10,000 extra refugees a start not enough over 3 years. Extra $100m suggested 4 aid better spent setting up processing camps | Labors call 10,000 extra refugees a start not enough over 3 years. Extra $100m suggested 4 aid better spent setting up processing camps |
| Bill Shorten calls for bi partisan approach to refugees, then becomes political particularly Marles and Plebiseck. What a pity. opp lost | Bill Shorten calls for bi partisan approach to refugees, then becomes political particularly Marles and Plebiseck. What a pity. opp lost |
| 12.10am BST00:10 | 12.10am BST00:10 |
| Just for the record, here’s the text of the motion on the China free trade agreement we expect at midday. | Just for the record, here’s the text of the motion on the China free trade agreement we expect at midday. |
| Notice of motion | Notice of motion |
| 7 September 2015 | 7 September 2015 |
| I give notice that on the next day of sitting I shall move that the House: | I give notice that on the next day of sitting I shall move that the House: |
| 1) Record the enormous economic potential of the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement (ChAFTA) to deliver Australian jobs, growth and investment; | 1) Record the enormous economic potential of the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement (ChAFTA) to deliver Australian jobs, growth and investment; |
| 2) Acknowledge that for benefits to flow to Australian businesses and workers without delay, it must be passed by the Parliament this year; and | 2) Acknowledge that for benefits to flow to Australian businesses and workers without delay, it must be passed by the Parliament this year; and |
| 3) Fully support the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement in its negotiated form. | 3) Fully support the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement in its negotiated form. |
| 12.07am BST00:07 | 12.07am BST00:07 |
| I’ve just seen a full playback of the Ewen Jones/Bernardi burn in the corridor. At the end, with a twinkle in his eye, the Liberal MP asks: | I’ve just seen a full playback of the Ewen Jones/Bernardi burn in the corridor. At the end, with a twinkle in his eye, the Liberal MP asks: |
| Is this being recorded? | Is this being recorded? |
| 11.53pm BST23:53 | 11.53pm BST23:53 |
| More from the corridor crawl this morning. | More from the corridor crawl this morning. |
| 11.44pm BST23:44 | 11.44pm BST23:44 |
| Remarkable. In the not good way. | Remarkable. In the not good way. |
| One thing I forgot to reference in the morning catch up was a story in The Australian today about the trade union royal commission. | One thing I forgot to reference in the morning catch up was a story in The Australian today about the trade union royal commission. |
| Investigative reporter Pam Williams says this morning lawyers working for the trade union royal commission “personally gave union whistleblower-turned-fraudster Kathy Jackson detailed advance knowledge of the issues to be covered during her appearances at the inquiry, including tips on the topics to prepare and suggestions that she use her time on the stand to tackle media critics.” | Investigative reporter Pam Williams says this morning lawyers working for the trade union royal commission “personally gave union whistleblower-turned-fraudster Kathy Jackson detailed advance knowledge of the issues to be covered during her appearances at the inquiry, including tips on the topics to prepare and suggestions that she use her time on the stand to tackle media critics.” |
| If true, that’s pretty remarkable, and not in a good way. | If true, that’s pretty remarkable, and not in a good way. |
| Given we expect Labor to move a motion in the senate at some stage today about Dyson Heydon – calling on the Governor-General to remove him from TURC after the controversy over his planned appearance at a Liberal party event – I suspect we’ll hear more of this story today. | Given we expect Labor to move a motion in the senate at some stage today about Dyson Heydon – calling on the Governor-General to remove him from TURC after the controversy over his planned appearance at a Liberal party event – I suspect we’ll hear more of this story today. |
| Labor postponed this motion yesterday. | Labor postponed this motion yesterday. |
| 11.36pm BST23:36 | 11.36pm BST23:36 |
| Mike Bowers (morning Mike) tells me the Liberal MP Ewen Jones was just outside in our corridor. Jones has called for the refugee intake to be 50,000. He got a question about the Bernardi remarks in the senate yesterday. | Mike Bowers (morning Mike) tells me the Liberal MP Ewen Jones was just outside in our corridor. Jones has called for the refugee intake to be 50,000. He got a question about the Bernardi remarks in the senate yesterday. |
| Jones: | Jones: |
| What do you expect from someone like Cory (Bernardi)? He plays to his constituency and that’s the hard part. | What do you expect from someone like Cory (Bernardi)? He plays to his constituency and that’s the hard part. |
| Updated at 12.02am BST | Updated at 12.02am BST |
| 11.27pm BST23:27 | 11.27pm BST23:27 |
| Shorten is asked about the parliamentary motion at midday on the China FTA. The Labor leader is asked whether Labor will stop playing politics on the FTA and get on with supporting it. Shorten says its the government playing politics. This motion is being brought on before the enabling legislation has even been sighted. | Shorten is asked about the parliamentary motion at midday on the China FTA. The Labor leader is asked whether Labor will stop playing politics on the FTA and get on with supporting it. Shorten says its the government playing politics. This motion is being brought on before the enabling legislation has even been sighted. |
| Shorten says Labor supports the agreement and wants CHAFTA plus. He’s brought a wad of papers into the AM studios and attempts to drill into the detail, which doesn’t go so well. There is the noise of shuffling papers and half sentences which don’t entirely make sense. It often goes this way when Shorten ventures into detail. | Shorten says Labor supports the agreement and wants CHAFTA plus. He’s brought a wad of papers into the AM studios and attempts to drill into the detail, which doesn’t go so well. There is the noise of shuffling papers and half sentences which don’t entirely make sense. It often goes this way when Shorten ventures into detail. |
| Michael Brissenden, the AM host, wants to cut through the blather. My question remains – without these changes – you won’t support it? | Michael Brissenden, the AM host, wants to cut through the blather. My question remains – without these changes – you won’t support it? |
| Bill Shorten: | Bill Shorten: |
| Michael, I’ve been in many negotiations standing up for Australian workers. It’s what I’ve been doing my whole adult life. | Michael, I’ve been in many negotiations standing up for Australian workers. It’s what I’ve been doing my whole adult life. |
| Nothing Labor is saying is a deal killer. What we need is the government not to assume that you either have to 100% agree with them or they take their bat and ball and go home. | Nothing Labor is saying is a deal killer. What we need is the government not to assume that you either have to 100% agree with them or they take their bat and ball and go home. |
| This nation has had a gutful of Mr Abbott’s stubbornness on so many issues. Let’s sit down, work through the issues. That’s how we get better outcomes when we work together, not against each other. | This nation has had a gutful of Mr Abbott’s stubbornness on so many issues. Let’s sit down, work through the issues. That’s how we get better outcomes when we work together, not against each other. |
| 11.18pm BST23:18 | 11.18pm BST23:18 |
| Shorten says Labor could support more than 10,000 refugees from Syria | Shorten says Labor could support more than 10,000 refugees from Syria |
| The Labor leader Bill Shorten has followed Julie Bishop in the AM studio. He’s asked whether accepting 10,000 Syrian refugees (Labor’s proposal from yesterday) is enough? | The Labor leader Bill Shorten has followed Julie Bishop in the AM studio. He’s asked whether accepting 10,000 Syrian refugees (Labor’s proposal from yesterday) is enough? |
| Bill Shorten says 10,000 is a “start.” | Bill Shorten says 10,000 is a “start.” |
| Q: So it could go higher? | Q: So it could go higher? |
| Shorten: | Shorten: |
| Let’s see what Mr Abbott says. | Let’s see what Mr Abbott says. |
| 11.15pm BST23:15 | 11.15pm BST23:15 |
| Toast, eggs, bacon, mushrooms – with a side of Cory | Toast, eggs, bacon, mushrooms – with a side of Cory |
| From Bernardi’s contribution in the senate on Monday, just because I suspect you’ll want further and betters. | From Bernardi’s contribution in the senate on Monday, just because I suspect you’ll want further and betters. |
| The facts remain that that terrible image was not brought about by recent events in Syria or Iraq. That boy and his family had lived in Turkey for three years. The money for that boy’s father to pay the people smugglers was sent from Canada. The father sent them on that boat so the father could get dental treatment. They were in no fear, they were in no persecution and they were in no danger in Turkey. | The facts remain that that terrible image was not brought about by recent events in Syria or Iraq. That boy and his family had lived in Turkey for three years. The money for that boy’s father to pay the people smugglers was sent from Canada. The father sent them on that boat so the father could get dental treatment. They were in no fear, they were in no persecution and they were in no danger in Turkey. |
| At this stage, I do not believe there is any need for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people to be ditching their identification and trying to get into Europe for reasons of safety. Many of these people have been very safely ensconced, working and housed in places like Turkey for many years. | At this stage, I do not believe there is any need for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people to be ditching their identification and trying to get into Europe for reasons of safety. Many of these people have been very safely ensconced, working and housed in places like Turkey for many years. |
| This seems to me to be becoming an opportunistic cycle which is masking the true humanitarian need that is the responsibility of all Western nations. That is the challenge for us — to distinguish between those who are being opportunistic and those are truly in need. | This seems to me to be becoming an opportunistic cycle which is masking the true humanitarian need that is the responsibility of all Western nations. That is the challenge for us — to distinguish between those who are being opportunistic and those are truly in need. |
| Australia will back those truly in need. | Australia will back those truly in need. |
| Meanwhile, Julie Bishop is on interview number four. She’s being asked on AM about conducting a military offensive and a humanitarian strategy at the same time in Syria. If the military offensive intensifies in Syria won’t the flow of refugees increase? | Meanwhile, Julie Bishop is on interview number four. She’s being asked on AM about conducting a military offensive and a humanitarian strategy at the same time in Syria. If the military offensive intensifies in Syria won’t the flow of refugees increase? |
| Julie Bishop: | Julie Bishop: |
| We are not dropping bombs on civilians we are targeting terrorists. | We are not dropping bombs on civilians we are targeting terrorists. |
| Q: What’s the endgame of this mission? | Q: What’s the endgame of this mission? |
| When the terrorist organisation is prevented from carrying attacks on civilian populations. | When the terrorist organisation is prevented from carrying attacks on civilian populations. |
| Updated at 11.32pm BST | Updated at 11.32pm BST |
| 11.00pm BST23:00 | 11.00pm BST23:00 |
| Good morning and welcome to Tuesday in Canberra, and a marvellous Tuesday it is. As we go live this morning the foreign minister Julie Bishop is doing the rounds of the television studios talking about Syria and refugees, which remains the dominant story this morning. | Good morning and welcome to Tuesday in Canberra, and a marvellous Tuesday it is. As we go live this morning the foreign minister Julie Bishop is doing the rounds of the television studios talking about Syria and refugees, which remains the dominant story this morning. |
| Tony Abbott faces calls from colleagues to take a larger cohort of people seeking safe haven. NSW premier Mike Baird reasoned on Q&A last night Australia could take more than 10,000 (the number Labor nominated yesterday), Liberal backbencher Ewen Jones thought 50,000 and there’s the calls from Bishop and assistant treasurer Josh Frydenberg for a one-off boost like John Howard did with refugees from Kosovo. | Tony Abbott faces calls from colleagues to take a larger cohort of people seeking safe haven. NSW premier Mike Baird reasoned on Q&A last night Australia could take more than 10,000 (the number Labor nominated yesterday), Liberal backbencher Ewen Jones thought 50,000 and there’s the calls from Bishop and assistant treasurer Josh Frydenberg for a one-off boost like John Howard did with refugees from Kosovo. |
| But Liberal senator Cory Bernardi saw “opportunism” in the current people movements. Bernardi told the senate on Monday (presumably having read Andrew Bolt’s blog) the little Syrian boy Aylan Kurdi pictured washed up on a beach, drowned, had boarded the boat not to seek asylum but for more practical reasons. “The father sent them on that boat so the father could get dental treatment,” Bernardi said. Readers with me on Politics Live yesterday will also know that Queensland Liberal Ian Macdonald read on Facebook that Middle Eastern countries weren’t doing anything on Syria. | But Liberal senator Cory Bernardi saw “opportunism” in the current people movements. Bernardi told the senate on Monday (presumably having read Andrew Bolt’s blog) the little Syrian boy Aylan Kurdi pictured washed up on a beach, drowned, had boarded the boat not to seek asylum but for more practical reasons. “The father sent them on that boat so the father could get dental treatment,” Bernardi said. Readers with me on Politics Live yesterday will also know that Queensland Liberal Ian Macdonald read on Facebook that Middle Eastern countries weren’t doing anything on Syria. |
| Bishop has been asked to disavow Bernardi on Sky News this morning. She’s obliged in mild terms, observing that “opportunistic” folks don’t meet UNHCR criteria. She’s said Bernardi can’t have been talking about people leaving Syria, since it is obvious that people are pouring out of Syria to flee a brutal conflict. “I don’t believe he could be talking about people leaving Syria,” she said. | Bishop has been asked to disavow Bernardi on Sky News this morning. She’s obliged in mild terms, observing that “opportunistic” folks don’t meet UNHCR criteria. She’s said Bernardi can’t have been talking about people leaving Syria, since it is obvious that people are pouring out of Syria to flee a brutal conflict. “I don’t believe he could be talking about people leaving Syria,” she said. |
| Later in the corridor, Bishop was asked about the Ewen Jones call for 50,000 asylum seekers from Syria. The foreign minister notes that anyone can come up with any figure they wish, but Australia needs to be able to provide services. That’s what the government is currently considering. | Later in the corridor, Bishop was asked about the Ewen Jones call for 50,000 asylum seekers from Syria. The foreign minister notes that anyone can come up with any figure they wish, but Australia needs to be able to provide services. That’s what the government is currently considering. |
| In addition to refugees the two main obvious news lines early are the China FTA – and continuing controversy over advice given to a cruise operator by federal officials about lowering operating costs. | In addition to refugees the two main obvious news lines early are the China FTA – and continuing controversy over advice given to a cruise operator by federal officials about lowering operating costs. |
| Trade first. Tony Abbott will move a motion at midday today calling on the parliament to “fully support the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement in its negotiated form.” Given Labor’s quibbles with the agreement, the politics of that are pretty obvious. Is Bill for the CFMEU or is Bill for economic progress? Given it can be hard to predict what anyone in this building is for or against at any given moment – and sometimes people can be both for and against something at the same time – I can only suggest we all stay tuned. | Trade first. Tony Abbott will move a motion at midday today calling on the parliament to “fully support the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement in its negotiated form.” Given Labor’s quibbles with the agreement, the politics of that are pretty obvious. Is Bill for the CFMEU or is Bill for economic progress? Given it can be hard to predict what anyone in this building is for or against at any given moment – and sometimes people can be both for and against something at the same time – I can only suggest we all stay tuned. |
| Now to cruise operators. Nationals leader Warren Truss has some explaining to do after telling parliament on Monday his officials had not advised a cruise operator to replace his workforce with a foreign crew (and if they had, the advice didn’t count because that couldn’t actually happen.) Last night Australian government bureaucrats admitted to a senate committee they discussed options with cruise operator Bill Milby which could have involved him hiring foreign crew under a foreign flag. | Now to cruise operators. Nationals leader Warren Truss has some explaining to do after telling parliament on Monday his officials had not advised a cruise operator to replace his workforce with a foreign crew (and if they had, the advice didn’t count because that couldn’t actually happen.) Last night Australian government bureaucrats admitted to a senate committee they discussed options with cruise operator Bill Milby which could have involved him hiring foreign crew under a foreign flag. |
| Oops. I don’t think I need to be a fortune teller to know we’ll hear something of that inconsistency today. | Oops. I don’t think I need to be a fortune teller to know we’ll hear something of that inconsistency today. |
| The Politics Live thread is open for your business, so do get amongst it. We are open for business on the twits. Mikearoo is @mpbowers and I’m @murpharoo | The Politics Live thread is open for your business, so do get amongst it. We are open for business on the twits. Mikearoo is @mpbowers and I’m @murpharoo |
| Buckle in. Collect $200 as you pass go. Try to avoid jail. Here comes Tuesday. | Buckle in. Collect $200 as you pass go. Try to avoid jail. Here comes Tuesday. |